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River...good for you! Sounds like you have finished your week with some positive changes that you will be able to carry forward. Do you feel it gets easier to say no each time you do? When the col was still here in her home, her dementia caused her to start talking to me occasionally in a way that was unacceptable and I finally put my foot down and told her no, that she would not talk to me in the manner that she was. I think I probably should have learned to say no to a lot of other things, but instead I ignored the problem hoping it would go away.....and we all know what that will do.....

zoey......wonderful!!! If possible try and have a night out once a month....it is lifesaving. When the col was still here, hubby and I would go out and spend the night and it was like having a mini vacation. Made it so much easier to get back to the care giving. And your mil will get glad in the same pants she got mad in!!!! She won't stay mad long I bet and if she does......that much more peace and quiet...lol.
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Just popping in to say hello. I am sorry to hear of so many of you dealing with such difficult times. How good it is to have a place to come and share with folks walking a similar way.

I went to my Pastor the other to just sit and talk for a bit. I came away with a thought that I think will help keep things in perspective for me. He had dealt with a terrible period of time with depression. It was so bad that he thought he would have to leave the ministry. His problem was that he was always saying yes-he thought he had to be the point man for every problem that went on in the parish. That God would be angry if he said no, and that in general the church would fall apart if he said no. Eventually he had to go on medication and take some time off. During that time off he had great counsel from other ministers. The one thing that he shared with me that helped me put my caregiving upright was this: Understand that saying no strengthens your yes. Saying no allows you to say yes to people and projects with strength and purpose. God does not intend for us to say yes to every situation or person that cries out for our attention. He expects us to say no-because he understands the importance and power of that word. No sets boundaries on your time, talent, finances and personal endeavors. But more importantly your No allows a space for someone else to step up to the plate, or it allows the person asking to find ways to help themselves. No is a balancing word. And it is a supportive word-one that props up your Yes. When you do say yes in relation to your no, you are saying yes from a place of stregnth. You have the time, energy and purpose to do what you are agreeing to do. Saying No gives you that place. That was the gist of that conversation.

I think as caregivers we often feel we can't say no. In our minds no is negative, it connotes failure to support, or "something bad will happen" or "they will think I don't care or I'm selfish if I say no". But No is a powerfully positive word and it would be good for us as caregivers to use this word alot more often than we do. Believe it or not, having tentatively tried it this week, the world didn't crash down around me and no one thought evil of me. And I felt awhole lot better in general. Other people stepped in to help my loved one-people who actually had a better way of resolving problems than I did. And, this loved one actually found some of his own strength in working through a problem without help. I say the power of No when judiciously used, is liberating!
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My husband and I went to dinner Friday evening and then went and got a room. my son and his girlfriend stayed with my MIL. We kept saying we were going to do this and just never did. We are going to do it every once in a while now that we've seen how nice and relaxing it was. Next time it will be my other sons turn to stay with her. We had breakfast at the hotel and after we checked out went to lunch before coming home. My son even cooked dinner for all of us. This was heaven!! of course we have got the cold shoulder since we've been home from my mother in law. My son catered to her the whole time. Sometimes she isn't happy unless she's miserable. Oh well she can pout away. We felt sooo young and free for a change.. She's not taking that away from me. I don't know what the big problem to her was. I'm back to the same ole thing today and will be now till who knows when.. I think, well I know my husband and I very much deserved it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Austin do you think the feelings are similar to those when a marriage has ended and one gets to that point where the hurt stops and you are just numb to everything around you? I can understand what a sense of relief you felt.

burned....you are making your way through this just fine. From the time you first posted until now, I can hear a little more fight in you, so this is only making you stronger. What were the kids into? Can you send them outside to work off some energy?

notlike is enjoying a nap....I'm thinking that sounds like a plan......
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Ladeeda I am so sorry that you are not doing pure caregiving -you are so good at that-what a waste to have you do housekeeping. Burned at least you will have good memories I didn't my husband said he hated me and I guess he did-he shut me out at the end-I was the only one he would not respond to and I did feel a little guilty that I was not sad after he died-I am sure others who did not really see how things were shocked how compossed I was but it is what it is.
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its hard process and I myself hate n love the situation I am in...hubby is sleeping more thru the day and I am afraid when I see the cardio for him it will be congestive heart failure which takes long time for anything to happen with and if the medicine doesn't strengthen his heart then I am unsure...his family doc is all positive etc but the specialists he sees tell a diff story..ticked me off that woman assumed I wanted to invoke his MPOA...i just pray that i get as much time with him as possible time to check on the kids theyre being too quiet ..hang in there God does listen tho we do not see him...Peace will come just hard to accept the fate of those we love and endure for them...ttyal
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Austin and notlike, things will work themselves out however they are supposed to go.... I won't do anything stupid and quit, just think I also have other things going on and just do not take the time to address them... why are we like that??? Let our own stuff just build and build until we are about to explode, maybe I am just talking about myself here....
Have been given some great suggestions from a dear friend, so will try some of those things before I cut my nose off to spite my face..... am still going to see what else is out there, it just feels like the right thing to do, have a plan B....
I know that I should be grateful that I have been demoted to housekeeper... think my ego has gotten in the way... but it is frustrating when I have to set and watch some of things that go on and knowing there is a simpler way to handle Sonny....This is what I am trained for , taking care of folks with Alz....it would be like Jam watching some one put a band aid on a ten inch cut... her training kicks in , just like mine....and we all know me keeping my mouth shut takes more effort than brains, so once again, I have created my own crisis....
Told a friend the other day my life has been in 'crisis mode' most of my life, so it is hard to recognize a potential blessing of not having to work so hard.... so if there isn't a crisis on board I create one?????? EWWWWW that needs some serious looking at doesn't it.....
just saw one of my neighbors with his morning beer, it's going to be a looooong day...
See, see how I perceived that, it's not like I have to set here all day.... ah Lord, I make MYSELF so tired.....
Thank you all for letting me put my craziness out there... appreciate your patience with me.... love, hugs and angels to you all...
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Thank you Jam and Ladee for the support. I'm so sorry that things have reached this point for you Ladee. But you have to do what is best for everyone, including yourself. Hope you find something else soon.
Jam-I got some laundry done yesterday, too. And it was about the only thing I really got done after spending time taking Dad shopping. Oh well. It's snowing here now, so I'm glad we went yesterday.
Hubby's already takling about naps, so that's a good sign we can rest/waste this day away. LOL
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Ladeeda I am so sorry that this job is so stressful you do not deserve to be treated badly and I am sure you will find another better job soon.
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The sad thing about all this Stormy is I do understand and feel compassion for her struggles with the blood disease.... and I try to make things comfortable for her and lessen her stress, but that does not give her permission to talk to me the way she does... doesn't change what is going on with her, and makes it uncomfortable to be in the same house with her....she may be settled down when I go back Monday, but am still going to see what my options are, and have a plan B....I'm just getting too old I guess.... love and hugs to you too...
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Ladee- I guess Marie has been up to her old tricks again!!!!! Sorry that you are going to have to find another job. I know that Sonny is going to miss you!!! But i understand. You have to do what's best for you!!!! Good Luck with the job hunting!! love and hugs stormyyyy
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Before I forget again, when notlike mentioned Zen, I have been wanting to share something I do to relax.. I have mentioned it once before a long time ago. it is called Zentangle... just type in that word and you will find all sorts of amazing little artsy things you can do... you do not have to be able to draw, but I can not explain how you just get lost in the process....all of us have a few minutes.... and you will find yourself taking a little more time for yourself doing this.... just wanted to share one more way we can get away from all the stress and constant worry... hope ya'll check it out and enjoy.... love and hugs...
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notlike, glad to hear from you , was getting worried.... and kudos to you for finding something that will get you back to yourself.... and like you, I am trying to eliminate the 'suffering' I put myself thru..... you have an overwhelming situation, how you have held on this long just amazes me......and again, like you, I read things from Zen as it makes sense to me.... it points out my choices.....
I will start looking for another job this Monday.... I choose not to 'suffer' at the job I am at, but taking some kind of action keeps me from feeling stuck and powerless....
You are an awesome young woman, and you keep on keepin' on..... prayers and hugs and angels....
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notlike........it sounds like you have reason to celebrate with making changes for yourself...good for you!! Baby steps will get you to where you want to be. I had to do that myself as I found that I was in a miserable place constantly and like you was suffering and finally decided that I didn't want to suffer any longer.

You will find most doctors don't want to be the bearer of bad news......darndest thing I've ever seen. They will tell someone what is wrong but then don't carry through with timelines, etc.

Hopefully both Mom and Dad will start to heal from their colds soon. Darn viruses! Talked with the col tonight and she sounds good. Said the pukies are gone and she is holding food just fine....whew!!!! So it must be a 24 hr thing.

That's about it for me today....such excitement....oh wait....I did a load of laundry....even folded and put away.....now that's bored...:)
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I've been away from the site for a few days, and probably missed alot. Hugs to everyone and I hope you are all coping.
I needed some time to wrap my head around everything that is going on here. I am tired of living crisis to crisis and change to change. I am to the point where I am moving things back to where I moved them from 4 months ago, and I need to not stress when sh*t like that happens.
I read parts of my favorite Zen book. No, I am not that calm - I don't practice sitting every day! But I do need reminders from time to time on how to handle things. I read about how suffering is different from pain. Pain is what you feel, suffering is what happens when you hang around thinking about it. I'm watching my Mom with her cold. Her nose and ear is stuffy, and her throat hurts. That's pain. She sits around all day complaining and refuses to get dressed or go anywhere until "this goes away." That's suffering. We've been to the doctor, and her virus has to run it's course. Dad's got a cold, too, but we went shopping today and he is up and around.
So, while nothing has really changed here, I have. At least I'm working on it. I am still in pain, emotionally and mentally, but I could really use a break from the suffering! I guess some would call it adjusting to my "new normal".
Mom had another round of chemo this week, which meant another visit to the doctor, and a chance for me to ask questions. I'm getting the impression this doctor is not good at giving bad news and may be being less than honest with us. Mom doesn't want to read the test reports or really know what is going on, and that's what the doctor is providing her. Good news only. I'm glad for her, but I am being watchful becuase I'm the one planing the plans and providing care. She will not be having radiation to the lungs because the tumor is too close to the blood vessels (aorta) and the chemo is working well. Thank goodness for that.
Dad is doing well after 2 treatments. His don't have the side effects like chemo. It will be about two months before he's done and they re-test him. Waiting, waiting...
Because Mom's prognosis is so short, I thought we'd see a huge downhill slide right away. I think now that it will come in bits and pieces. I'm learning to deal with that. I hope. And it's going to take alot more mental adjustment and strength from me this way. One day is good for her, and I have to stand back, the next she's lost and sick and I have to step up.
You have all been a God-send to me. I don't know what I would have done if I hadn't found this site and this thread. I suppose I will be strong some days and a wreck on others from now on. But I'm starting to feel stronger and that feels good.
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Good Morning Posse!

It looks to be another gorgeous day here in the Midwest.....supposed to be almost 70 on Monday.....this is unheard of for this time of year. Makes me wonder if it will be 30 in July instead of the usual 100 degrees!

Wonderful to see you Austin....and so nice to hear encouraging words from an "old" friend....:)
Good to read from you also lyn and soooo sorry to hear you are in crisis mode. I hope this gets better. I was offered the opportunity several months ago to document the col's life, but I felt it would be too much of an intrusion into her life, so we opted not to do it. Speaking of the col.....she has been in lockdown herself for a couple of days....the pukies caught up with her. Needless to say, our visits will have to be by phone or through the staff for a few more days. It's a little late in the season for that little virus to be making it's way through the NH....but any time isn't a good time.

I will be in "lurking" mode......check in and let us know how you are today!

Happy Trails,
Jam
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Good luck with the media -things can get done with publicy for examlpe abused spouses-finally they are talking about it and not too long ago here in NY they addressed the problems with elders being scamned after one of the doc on TV told the story of his elderly father now it is time for the caregivers to be helped-again too late for me but I am still happy about it. Any help caregivers can get will be helpful to many.. It is great that people that I admired from the Gross out thread are making a difference and starting other threads.
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Hello my friends. I have disappeared for awhile, as we went into crisis on January 1 and are still in crisis. The story is long and intense, but I am holding up well. I am actually in the process of turning to the media to help get help for my husband and other caregivers in similar situations. Hugs to you all. I think of you often. Lyn
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Meant mono...
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Lirp.. The social worker from the hospice you have should be able to get you a sitter sometime they have volunteers. Also most states have a Area on aging ..go to main site at aoa.gov then find your state and then your local area. There you should be able to find help on free respite.. Usually it is 12 hours or so but some more. There are usually several hospice groups in same area..call to see wh can provide what..then go with the best. Or like Mis says if there is a hospice house nearby check into it..mom is nothing to ignore!
Like everyone is saying..we are here for you ...we will listen and offer what we can. Love and prayers.
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welcome and everyone is right ...u need a break and get out of the house and Ill keep adding my prayers. I have had a long day and morning again. It seems i am getting too much rest or not enough...sometimes i do not care but i am also taking care of my husband and 2 children...and yes cancer is awful....check into resources to help you and where u live. my husband qualifies for Long Term Care not hospice...if ur mom is on social security they have to info to give you but get out of the house and get someone else to be with her....sounds like ur depressed and burned to the max like I am ...maybe seeing a therapist will help also or a caregiver support grp if there is one available.
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lirp, welcome, hopefully you will find an answer to help you out while you are trying to get better.... mono takes a long time to get healthier would it be ok if i called you kooz???? I like that better than lirp.... let us know how you are you...
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Welcome lirp...we just went through hospice with my husband's grandma. I was the main caregiver. Is there a local hospice house in area? We had to put grandma in the local hospice house. I physically couldn't do the lifting or changing of diapers due to heart surgery a few months back so we decided to place her there. She was very well cared for and the staff was wonderful. Grandma passed away 3 wks ago today. She had a stroke with bleeding on the brain. We took care of her for just over 4 yrs.
Ditto to what Jam said.
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lirp....sounds like a new hospice group is needed. Does Mom qualify for Medicaid? That would get her a place in a facility where she can be cared for until you are well again. Just throwing out some ideas.
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Hospice is here for 1/2 hr for her bath, then gone. They are not any releif. I am alone. We've exhausted all the options and she doesn't qualify for any assistance for one stupid reason or another. With brain cancer, there really aren't stages. Her body is breaking down but her mind is sharp as a nail. Find her FB group called "Today with Vera". Love to you all.
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You would have thought I brought in a dead cat by the way she was acting about me bringing in the wrong coffee. I told her yesterday I would take it back, no,no, let me do my passive aggressive crap , think I'll wait until tomorrow to try and piss you off....so with her hateful tone... you need to take this back, blah blah blah, and then later in the day her sil came by with coffee....
All I am going to say, I am NOT going to do this again with her.. if she isn't in a better mood monday, it is job hunting time..... sure hope she can find a HOUSEKEEPER who is PERFECT..... because this sure as hell is NOT caregiving.....I am pissed, going to take a worm nap......
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Thanks for your love. Us caregivers need breaks, and help. No one can do this aline. Be blessed.
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I guess I must be doing ok, I've gained some weight since I moved in with my mother in law. I used to eat healthy though. I was actually head trainer at a curves for women & taught the diet class. Had to quit to help her. She insists on cooking with canned soups & pkg seasoning mix's, white bread,, etc. Yuck. Throws a fit if I use olive oil. Have to use bacon grease! I think she's trying to kill me! But she trumps me with " I don't see anyone else around here who is 95". I hate it when she's right! :-)
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Back from my shopping trip and I left Walmart to irritate me again another day.

lirp.....welcome and my goodness you do have a full plate! Mom lives with you? How advanced is her cancer? Have you considered calling hospice to assist with her? How about a care facility? It's apparent that you can't care for her right now.....you need to get yourself well and back on your feet. Your local adult protective services can give you some ideas of what you can do with Mom. When you feel like it, it helps a lot to fill out your profile...gives us a little more information about your situation. Prayers are sent to you for a speedy recovery and assistance with Mom. Come back and visit....this is a good place to sit and talk about your feelings....we'll leave the light on for you.
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Whoa-Lirp- 104 lbs you have got to start taking better care of yourself. I know it is easier said than done. I know i lost 25 lbs when i first started taking care of my dad. It was just stress, and being grossed out from the trach and all the mucus we had to endure that done that. But i needed to lose that weight. Was still holding on to the baby fat from having my little boy. I hope you will try to take better care of yourself. And you are right it is her time not yours. My dad has cancer too of the thyroid. That's why he has this trach in. And dad was working 50 to 60 hours a week up until he had his surgery to put in the trach. And he has not worked since. Between the cancer and the radiation it just wore him out. Now he just sits in his recliner most of the time. I know i hate cancer too!!!!! Hugs stormyyy
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