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No, you just have the power to post nothing but attacks on her, both on her wall and on this thread. You have done your best to run her off.

You don't own this and you don't have the right to decide what someone else is allowed to post or how they're supposed to feel about either themselves or the people they are caring for.

Does your employer know that you post complaints about them online?
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Maya.....it's apparent that even though the subject should have been closed, you are not willing to let it be that way. I'm sorry you feel that you have some battle that needs to be fought. I am not apologizing either, nor do I have to justify to you or anyone else, what I say, and you have made it abundantly clear you have no idea of what you are talking about. This thread is not about the wants and needs of only one person and that was where it was heading. This started a long time before you joined this thread and why you have set yourself up as spokesperson is beyond me. Haven't I always said "this thread belongs to everyone"? Or was that before you started posting? This IS a democracy and everyone has the right to say what they will......but when one person starts making the others uncomfortable or causes others to stay away, then it's time for that ONE person to go....................."move along lil' doggie" as a dear friend just recently said.
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First let me apolgize to any new folks on here or anyone else that chooses to stay out of this.... this has been brewing for awhile....
maya first of all I am laughing at your assumptions and your interpetations...and just to let you know, I will say what I want, when I want. I personally do not have the power to run anyone off, I just don't think I'm that important in the bigger scheme of things.... so if it made you feel better to threaten, then hopefully you are ok now... It's over with, Peg is a grown woman she can post where ever she wants... just as you can.... so just know that whatever else you choose to post that's fine with me, it will not change my life one way or the other... hope you feel better....
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mis...thinking of you today again...are the services over now? I still have a service for both parents coming up in May at a national cemetary outside St. Louis. Never easy......

Vic....glad dad had a good night.....thought undies would have arrived by now. Wish you didn't have to strain so much to change him......didn't realize it was more work with a man.....always envied the urinal............
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Just wanted to post that I finally got good news about my MIL. The second or third? colonoscopy was finally done in SC and she is a "clean as a whistle." There is no need for further angst about possible surgery. And with her new hearing aid, she can now talk to us on the phone and we can answer her in a normal tone of voice. God is good.
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And by the way, if anyone begins to post garbage about myself on either this thread or on my wall because I finally spoke up about how Peg is being treated, they should know that I will also report it.
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Jam, not too long ago, you posted about how frustrated you were with your MIL. You vented to the point that the authorities came to your home. I remember the postings where you vented about it all. It's ironic that you call yourself an active caregiver and yet are asking for suggestions on decorating your MIL's quarters. How dare you and others condemn Peg? You should all go back and read the things you've written. I remember your pillow posting especially. Do you?

You don't own this message board, you know. It's on Agingcare.com, not Jam.com.

And no, I won't apologize because I called it exactly what it is. You've done your best to run Peg off.

And Ladee, you have no business posting complaints about Peg either. It doesn't matter if they're on this board on or on her wall. She doesn't need your attacks and it seems as if that's all you're interested in doing. You don't own this board either.
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lindy, so glad to hear nothing broken on Mom! Poor thing, then an ultrasound on top of that! Are you ready for a nap?

I'm pooped and it doesn't have anything to do with care giving.....unless a 15 y/o poodle counts......Got all the dogs bathed.....kept the old girl for the last and OMG, I think the first time I had to strip the col down and bathe her was easier...lol. This dog screamed and carried on and of course I'm trying to soothe her, but what the heck, she's blind and deaf so I just have to get the job done. Then I took them outside after they were dry, I keep a pair of crocs at the door to wear, and I can feel something on my toe.....well a bee and I are in the backyard doing some kind of crazy dance....I'm hopping around on one foot and my toe is stinging like I've been shot.....the dogs are running around like a pack of wild dogs.....and of course Target is inside oblivious to it all. So now, the doctor made me find some Benadryl, and my toe is swollen and hurts like the dickens, the col's dog is humping the old blind one's head, I think the other two are staying out of my way after the visions of being stomped while doing my dance.......there's never a dull moment around here it seems. Going to be nap time soon, so I guess I will hobble downstairs and get the last load of laundry out of the dryer.

So how has everyone else been today?

Happy Trails......buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz,
Jam
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Well mother fell again today, no broken bones! Had to get a ultra sound of bladder, that was fun! Next will be cysto at doctors office at the end of the month. Moving day set to be Feb 27th, hope nothing happens before that. Very tired, stressed, but life goes on.
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ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The point of this thread when it was started, was to allow those of us in ACTIVE care giving to have a safe place to come and ask questions, offer advice, relay stories, talk about YOU and how you handle the care giving........of course the daily things our loved one does is going to be included. If this is not what you are needing, then go elsewhere.
Peg.....those here have shown nothing but concern about your mother and that concern has been rebuffed several times......you have relayed that she is not eating, but instead of getting aggressive with that, you have let all of us know that mom is on her own, your needs are too important. You have made excuse after excuse, and contrary to what you may think you know, your excuses don't hold water. I'm married to a physician!!!!! Do you think I don't know how the world of medicine works? Your mother has entered the world of dementia......YES DEMENTIA......and it needs to be dealt with by someone who puts her needs first. You have posted that you take your mother to a casino, put her on a chair, and go about your business knowing the casino personnel will watch her....and then shrug off the fact that you headed out the door to go to school, having forgotten to put out breakfast and meds..school can wait, mom can't. Okay, so perhaps mom is depressed because she misses her husband.....do you notice I said husband? You have never referred to him ONE TIME as anything other than "my dad". I am glad that you have taken the time in your life to further your education, but you have come across that your mother is hindering that accomplishment and you will be glad "when the doctor places her". The doctor is not placing her and since you have no authority over her, by your own admission, she will sit right there in her own home until her son decides to do something.

Again, I have made it a point to let everyone know that this a safe place to come and post, where they can get some advice on care giving and attempt to keep themselves from falling into a black hole. There are some terrific posters here and I personally have made some very dear friends......but if you don't need anything from anyone here, then please feel free to take yourself elsewhere.

TOPIC FINISHED.....DONE.....OVER AND OUT!!!!
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Stormy: the post the other night was written in fear of losing another parent after losing my dad just 16 months ago. I didn't mean to come across as not caring about any ideas people had; I was just so scared and sobbing and not sure how I felt about anything due to my fear of losing her as well. Thank you for your questions and comfort. i truly appreciate it. When I said I needed a hug and not advice i never meant to say ever ... I just meant that night. I have heard what people have said and acted on suggestions. I did write I appreciated the ideas. I did ask about other people in the past just that night I hit crash and burn. I apologize and that's all I can do. SDPeg
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Sdpeg- Just saw on here. Ten reason why your aging parent may not be eating properly. Check that out and see if she has any of these problems. Stormyyy
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Sdpeg- has your mom always had eating problems? Or did this just start after your father died. You might have already told us this but i can't remember. Anyway if it is something that she has been battling all her life then it's going to be very hard for her to change this type of behavior this late in the game. Not saying that it is impossible but she is probably set in her ways. And if she is then there is nothing you or anybody else can do to make her change. She has to be the one to want to eat. You can't make her. Unless, you talk to her dr about getting a feeding tube inserted into her. But i don't know how little she is eating. I'm sure that would be a last resort for you and her doctor to decide. If she has started this not eating since your father died then i'm sure that it is just depression. When you are depressed you do not want to eat. Or that is how i am. I lost about 15 lbs when my mom died. Hardest year of my life! And these two years with dad have been next in line. That's another story.... Not sure when you said that your dad died, maybe she just needs more time to adjust to him not being there. Or maybe you could try the tough love approach with her and see if that works. All you can do is tell her that you love her and you do not want to lose another parent. And what she does with that information is up to her. She is a grown woman and it is her life. How she decides to live it or not is up to her. Just know that you did all that you could to help her. And have peace of mind knowing that. Hope this helps. I hope i haven't offended anyone. Love and hugs to all Stormyyyyyyyy
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SDPeg....I feel the need to be blunt....what I have read from you is "I don't need anything from you but a hug", therefore, all my subtle suggestions meant nothing to you. You have been doing this for 15 months and know it all. I don't know what I am talking about because you do not have POA and can't get it, but don't want it. You spout psycho-babble that makes me question English as my first language, but mom still isn't eating, and it sounds like you have given up on caregiving....so be it. The doctor is not going to write a prescription for placement. You will have to deal with that and brother eventually. You want out and to get back to your life... OK.....do it. Do you want my permission? You have it.
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I got to behind to comment on individual posts-please just know that I love you all.
Yesterday I was the one in need of care. Had an IUD placed for the first time in my life. Yuck and Ow and Ouch. Still sore today, but getting better. Hubby was very good and brought me water and painkillers. And gave me the TV remote! LOL
Still have not heard from Mom's doctors about adding radiation. They said we'd have to have another appointment with the radiation doc. Will have to talk to her about it tonight. Oh joy.
Back to work for me. Will try and check in tonight.
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"...even felt like my situation may turn up in some paper or dissertation somewhere"
I missed this line the first time I read your post, Vic, and want to reassure you that I would never do that. The paper I wrote was my personal memoir and I consider this thread confidential. I don't discuss anything that people write on here with anyone else not even friends I have made on this post outside of this post. Just thought I would reassure everyone that I have no intention of ever revealing your lives with anyone at all. I felt a need to say that. SDPeg
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I am sorry you, Vic, and others did not feel safe posting because of my reactions to some posts. I won't make excuses nor try to explain but I will apologize to those I hurt. You put into words what I was trying to get out and the word "helplessness" is a very powerful word. I did appreciate the suggestions just one night I needed a hug and box of Kleenex as my heart was breaking and my mind could not have comprehended any logic at all.
I was responding to posts but perhaps not as kindly as I could have. I also send hugs and well wishes.
I admit to being verbose at times so I will end this post here.
SDPeg
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Morning all..dad had an ok night.. Can't wait for those other undies to come..it is so difficult to change him at night . It is like his legs are iron ..
Mis...love the derringer story! Your gma must have been a hoot! Savor all these good memories through this tough time..you are in prayers.
Rw..my mom is 91 will be 92 in July. She is still very competent in her affairs..mom and dad moved a couple doors down from me about 5 years ago...my hubby and I moved our bed in after dad needed 24/7 care around 3 years ago. I kept after dad years ago their will and such and finally they did a revocable trust with me as executor. A few years ago when dad fell..I got them both do fill out medical poa and advanced directives. Finally not too long ago I got the financial poa.. Although I am on all their stuff it was getting harder to talk to insurance..as long as mo. Can say yes she can talk for me all is well...
Mom still writes all her checks out and keeps an eye on her funds..but I balance it monthly so I know where you are coming from! Jam and cmag had some good info..the only thing I would add to it is have a poa there when you talk to her because you may have to have the conversation again!
Cmag..never thought about sending poa for taxes..I just do them. Guess I will get in trouble later! Haha..
Ok let's see if I can say this right..SDPEg..your situation breaks my heart and I feel confident in saying that everyone on here empathizes. We care about you and your mom..your mom's deteriorating health and your helplessness to do take any action since you aren't poa and your situations with your brother and mother.. Cmag started the dysfunctional thread and that really sounds like a good place to discuss the psychology of the past and the futility of fixing it now. All of us also understand the need to take care of us..especially so that we can take care of our loved ones. We are all on the same boat so to speak in all our situation no matter what the underlying cause is..you can only do what you can do for love of your mom and for your well being. You have a great relationship with her doctor and the doc knows you are her caregiver despite the legal jargon.. All you can do is make today the best. Your doc can document your moms condition and her well being. When the time arises you are the one there and you can take it to court to get guardianship if you so desire. All that said..all of us are "powerless" to some extent. But we have to live in today not the past or the future. This thread was started to help all of us..including you. We give suggestions and impressions of each others situations to help ..we can take or leave advice.. The way many of your posts were written gave an impression of hautiness when we gave suggestions. No you can't shove food down your moms throat..no you can't change her behavior when she talks to your brother and yes we are all concerned with her well being. But you can't put us down in the process. A person can choose to be a victim or not. You work diligently for your mom.. You said your dad and her went out to eat a lot and that you and her go to the casinos..maybe at this time in her life on some level she understands but she is powerless to do anything about her eating. If she has a banana great! I can't begin to imagine your situation only know from mine that I encourage and I choose to stay with it.. Anyway I don't think I am trying to make any real point here but just some of my own personal observations.. This thread has been a godsend to me since I found it..I have been able to share feelings sad,joy,guilt, worry..etc.. But didn't feel comfortable doing that lately. Just felt like it wasn't safe anymore to talk..that you didn't care about our situations or our feelings .even felt like my situation may turn up in some paper or dissertation somewhere.. I pray you don't take that in the wrong way.. It is said with love. Anyway it had been bottled up inside me for awhile..we do care about you and your mom. I pray that all goes well With her doc appt on Friday.
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Oh and Jam, I sure am a picky homeless person.... but hey , if you don't let your needs be known, and anyway, I know you don't want me to be depressed... who would go to the pond with you????
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Mercy rw, didn't mean to send you into overload and you didn't even get to ask your first question.....we jumped on that wagon didn't we... but all very useful info.... things that will end up helping you in the long run...
Law enforcement huh? well guess I'll have to start behaving now... NOT...were you an officer? Sounds fascinating, you'll have to tell us more about that....and you live in Ore., I live in Texas... we are from all over the place, but we do have a lot in common.... so glad you came back,
And good for you making the stand about going to the gym alone... does she have anxiety about being alone or has she always been this way??

Take advantage of her not talking to you, there will come a day when they never hush..... so savor your quite time..... we are happy to hear a new voice here....

Back to work for me today so will be bitching about something later this evening...I know Marie will be weak from needing blood, but hope she isn't grumpy to go along with that, but her and I have come a long way... I know how to handle those moods now....and I have missed my Sonny man... today is shower day, he won't be happy....but I will give him lots of hugs and make him laugh and it will be over before he knows it... it's funny, he never remembers the shower, but he always remembers he hates to take one...When I am checking his pockets when he gets undressed, always find some kind of food, candy, crackers, thank goodness to far they have been in the wrappers... I always tell him he has food set aside for hard times... He is one of nine children... that may be something he did to always have something to eat, who knows....
So off to make the big bucks today... am rested and ready to go....
love to all and hugs across the miles...
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Hey my girls and gent,
I holding up as good as can be expect and so is my hubby. I kept my big mouth shut even though I sure wanted to say something. Sil started her crap last night at the viewing. She got ticked cause I didn't bring any pics of her to put in Grandma's casket, not up to me or my hubby. So she decided not to be in the viewing area with us instead out in the lobby until Fr. Martin came. It's sure hard not too saying anything to her about being so dang petty.

About a month ago, Grandma and I were eating supper and she asked me "is Jr working late tonight?" I told her that he was. She then said "Where is my daringer (her little pistol that she carried in her apron when her and grandpa owned a little country store). I told her that it was locked up downstairs. She then said, "well I think I need to buy another." My reply was "why". She told me if us 2 women are going to be by ourselves we need some protection that way I'll have one and you'll have one, too. Grandma was always think'in.
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rw ~ Re the POA. I suggest you approach your mother ASAP about the POA while she's still competent enough to sign legal documents to avoid the necessity of having to prove her incompetence to gain guardianship. If she gets miffed at you for a couple of weeks, although unpleasant, it's worth it in the long run. Jam's approach sounds good. You might even be surprised to find that she will be comforted to know that you are willing to handle her affairs for her. I know I was eager to give my daughter POA so strangers/government wouldn't be able to step in and make decisions I wouldn't like. In fact, that might be a selling point for you to use. Good luck.
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ladee.....there's not that much brown.....I'll send you a picture. I wanted to put a lighter carpet in.....but nooooooo Target wanted the darker because of "elderly overflow".........The lake house has blue carpet.....the walls have a light stripe pattern.....the ceiling is white with beams.....does that sound better?
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rw....having that POA really does keep the headaches to a minimum, because you WILL need it. Try what we did....approach it from the standpoint of "what if you should fall and hit your head and be unconscious" or "get so ill that you can't tell the doctor what's wrong", something along those lines. And we assured the col that we would never use it unless something like that happened. She was okay with it. The POA we have gives us permission to control every single aspect of her life, from finances to medical issues. We also placed all of her money in a trust account. We did that so if we should decide that her money could run out and she couldn't pay for her care at the NH, we could apply to Medicaid and there wouldn't be a frantic "spend-down" of her finances. Just some other things to think about. Yes, you learn to pick your battles and Lord knows there are a few of those! Sorry to hear Mom injured her knee.....is there surgery in her future? Hope it isn't causing her too much pain.

My brain is starting to shut down so I'd better get some sleep.....will pick this up in the morning....sleep well my chicks.............
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ok now my head is spinning. She can still sign tax returns not that she knows what they say only if she owes anything or not. I see the point of a durable POA but I don't know how to approach it with her. My last conversation with her about her NOT going to the gym with me resulted in her being mad at me for two weeks and not speaking to me. (I forgot to mention she follows me EVERYWHERE) It is difficult to go anywhere that she doesn't want to come with me.

The week of christmas she injured her right knee. The doc diagnosed it as a torn ACL. MRI last friday and results should be tomorrow or Wed. So if I want to go somewhere she starts pouting, so I avoid going anywhere but the gym or to the store.

It may sound crazy but I am trying to keep the friction to a minimum. Picking my battles so to speak.

I will give more thought on how to approach the durable POA with her but it's not going to be pleasant.

Same for the medical stuff. She is very adament that it's her business but it's going to be sooner than later that this will need to change.
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rw, does your mother sign her tax returns? My mother is longer longer able to do much less sign her taxes. To be able to do so, I had to mail the IRS a copy of my Durable POA and get a verification code that I use in signing each Federal Tax return which she and my step-dad had gotten way behind on. If you ever need to discuss your mom's tax return with the IRS, you will need the durable POA. There have been securities to deal with, property sales, incoming checks from her long term health insurance care that can't be auto-deposited but require my POA signature to deposit. Although ages ago, my mother made me joint owner with right of survivorship of her accounts, the bank still required a copy of the durable POA. I don't remember exactly why, but there was one time that someone wanted a certified copy of the durable POA. Also, it is registered with the county register of deeds and can be seen by anyone who wants to look at it. Access is not the issue as much as having the legal authority to manage their finances when they are not competent to manage their business matters in a business like manner. With all of the new HIPPA laws, it is crucial to have Medical POA as well. If your mother is not competent to make a medical decision , the the Medical POA authorizes you to do so in her best interest as if you were her. Having my mother's medical POA has made communicating with her doctors and dealing with hospital situations much easier. I'm so glad that my mother did not give my step-dad either POA for he is not competent to deal with either. It does anger him some, but frankly if he were POA I would be in court going after guardianship because neither one of them are competent. As you can tell, I believe in having POAs and I keep a copy of them in each glove compartment in case I need them for I live an hour away from my mother.
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Vic....up and down, up and down, sending you some zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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rw.....next I would make sure that I could get all her medical info. HIPPA has caused some paperwork to be done....not much....maybe answer only one question...but it will make access easier. I just listed who could get her info over the phone, but she had to sign it. And if she has no objection, go into office visits with her. More ears, the better.
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Thanks Jam for the tip on the POA. Having access to my mom's finances is not a problem since my sister and I both have access to her accounts. A month ago she got into a snit about paying her bills online and said she was going to write checks again. WELL that lasted less than a month when she had her checkbook all messed up and brought it to me at 11:30 at night to figure out. Needless to say I am back paying the bills online. I started a new check register and gave her the beginning balance so she can keep track of the online transactions if she wants to. It gives her something to do and not feel totally left our of her transactions, but if it gets messed up no big deal. I'm more concerned about medical issues but there are other avenues other than a durable POA for that from what I have read anyway.

You can ask any nosey question you want to. I don't offend easily (spent 12 years in law enforcement and developed a pretty thick skin). I only did a brief summary on my profile.
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Vic, it is so good to see you posting more... missed your voice...glad dad had a better day, maybe he's just like the rest of us, good days and not so good days....but like Seeme shared yesterday, they do not follow a pattern.... it is just vigilance on our part for change that seems serious.... you are such a loving daughter, they are so blessed to have you... love and hugs to you sister friend...
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