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Emjo- she will go to her grave with this one. My sister told our other neice,her sister and she is so mad at her. Sis wants to talk to her more but has not had a chance. So we might be hearing more news in a few days (for you soap opera lovers, Sdpeg).
Emjo- Yes, hubby is a policeman and he is poed about the whole situation. Thinks that with that money she got away with that we could have paid someone else to stay with dad and i could have been working at the store. He feels like she also stole from connor's education as that is part of our inheritance and that money could go to connor one day. On the pup issue. Hubby wants her to go outside to potty, no going inside, so we have not had any puppy pads down. I've just been carrying her outside every so often. Well i got to go rub cream on dads legs, better go for now. hugs stormyyy
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SDPeg-good luck on Friday. Angels to help you.
Starri-I could live with being disowned. It isn't a permanent condition, right? LOL Your propane cooking remined me of when we used to tent camp. Waited months for a backordered propane stove with an oven. Oven couldn't cook much, but the smell of pizza rolls in a tent campground made us lots of new friends! Hope you had a great nap.
Maya-Go ahead and talk! Reminds me of a song "If you want to sing out, sing out..." Glad the antibiotics are helping. Take it easy on the gummi bears! LOL Like I should talk - it seems to be my mission to finish all the leftover Christmas candy :)
Burned-with all you have going on, I'd send you a flyswatter if I could. Hugs.
Heard from Dad that Mom wasn't feeling well today. Asked her, which started a huge fight, but I'll keep that to the other thread. What concerns me is that it turned out to be that her nose was bleeding. She said it was because it's so dry. Well, (one) I'd love to know how much blood because it could be a chemo side effect and (two) even if it's not that, we have april air and I can turn it up if she needs it. I wonder if she will ever realize that she's compromizing her care and comfort by withholding from me?
No naps for me today. After yesterday's marathon, I figure I better stay up today so I can sleep tonight.
Take care everyone.
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Starri, I'm an August baby who is fifty-two as well. It's a great age to be!
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ros, dorothy sounds like a dog of great character and know how to push your buttons. Glad the cats are relaxing since Heathcliff went. Agreed you never stop learning. One cousin stayed with me a while and wanted to bring his rottweiler here, and said he was well trained so I allowed it. One day that large dog took after my cat who climbed up high enough to get out of the way. My cousin said, "Oh he wasn't serious". I said, "He looked serious to me and the cat thinks he is serious and I can't take that chance, or live undere that strain, and also you called him to stop and he didn't so he is not that well trained." I could not have that dog in my house with my cat. He was a nice pet but not safe, Toonie and I felt better when he left, and he was confined to the basement till he did.
your mum is a pain in the***. eh, She sounds like she is back to normal. ,)
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Maya dear, I am sorry you got stuck with "shit" for brains siblings as well, I'm here in CA, have a brother down in Norwalk, and I truly don't want to see him, but will make the offer to meet up for dinner, I'll do the polite thing..lol.. he's the one that I had it out with during mom's illness, him trying to tell me how to take care of her, when he thought it would be time for him to come see her, etc.. While he didn't say it, his words certainly showed that he believed it was my job to care for mom under his instructions, it wasn't my "job" it was my joy, no matter how much she drove me nuts..lol.. and I certainly wasn't doing it under his instructions.. I've just turned 52, and he believed that he had the right to tell me that I should not take as long as a trip as what Glenn and I are, he said only maybe 2 months, I know what his reasoning was, even if he didn't say it out loud, We have two other brothers in SC, both in failing health, and he expects me to take care of them, which if I am needed there God will make sure I am there, not him. Maya you have a family of your own, "YOU" it doesn't have to be husbands, kids, boyfriends or girlfriends, your your own family. Your no ones servant. Step up my friend and don't let anyone put that "walk on me" sign on your back.
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Stormy, 17 Christmas trees? That girl definitely has some issues. She probably is mythomaniac. And if she is, she sees nothing wrong in satisfying her needs whatever it takes...
Jo I am very happy about the new dog, who is completely different from Nicky (and I am happy she is different from Nicky). Nicky had not been abandoned, so she was not "street smart": Dorothy has been abandoned A LOT, so she knows all the tricks and the ruses to do what she wants to do, she tries to con you, she pretends she has not heard... She has an innocent face... But she is very strong inside. When I call her and she doesn't come and so I change my voice and I sound harsher, she comes right away crawling and she looks at me with pleading eyes "Please, don't punish me!" But I know she is acting... She is not afraid of me at all... She pretends she is as pure as a lily! She makes me laugh. Very very smart. She is much smaller in size than the other 3 dogs, but she has already learned how to handle them too... If you live "a lot" with animals you are amazed about what they do! My cats are slowly going back to their normal life after Heathcliff's departure and I am so sad I haven't understood before how dangerous he was. Really a bad mistake on my side and the price of this mistake was very high. One never stops learning, really.
My mother has completely recovered from her flu and she is as rompiballe (you know this word!) as before....
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Oh my!!!! I think it does show her guilt and pray she come forward with the truth. What does your hubby say about it. He is a policeman right? Not sure if you have to train him or the pup or both. Pups make mistakes and you clean up after them, Is she paper trained in the house? There are some pads or suchlike that they will tend to go on. available from a pet store probably. I haven't trained a dog in years -someone else here must be closer to it than me. Good luck with the pup and your niece.
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A bit of info i found out on fb. last nite and like to have had a heartattack. If i offend anybody by saying this it is not intended for you just my neice. SHE PUT UP 17 CHRISTMAS TREES THIS YEAR, WHO IN THE HELL NEEDS 17 CHRISTMAS TREES UP? She sure as hell doesn't. Man me and sis just keep hearing more stuff and the madder we get. Our other neice(her sister) told us that something is up cause she is paranoid as hell. She even asked her sister if aunt debbie had said anything to her about money getting missing at the store. To me that is showing her guilt right there. I'd like to see what all she has in that house of hers. Ya'll would probably have to carry me to the ER for a massive heartattack. Well better go check on dad, boy it's going to be a long day over here my 8 hour day today...... Hurry up 8 o clock...... Love and hugs stormyy
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Ok ya'll i need tips on puppy potty training. Lily has had a couple of accidents on the floor and hubby is tripping out. Says that she is going out on the gargage to live if she has another accident. Got any tips on how to get her into a routine. She goes good outside, but she still has had the accidents. Love and hugs stormyyyy
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I have a neighbor who is total dysfunctional and likes to give me * advice on how to do things when she can't stop her own self destructive behavior. I was able to take a shower and post a no visitor type deal on my fb because personally I do not want visitors unless they are willing to help me or provide some fun for the children not just using my family to gain something. My husband is doing alot better today so far...breathing seems good but he is a tad sleepy. On the 12th of this month he seeing the cardiologist...then i MUST schedule his other appts and find sitters for the kids and its not my neighbor if i can help it...do not trust her and omg just sorry for everyone losing so many loved ones last yr and this yr...we all think we can hold on to them a moment longer and then they are gone...yet we can never escape that loss I have to decide but got some time what I am gonna do for my grandmonther's memory of her passing on the 18th of november. I got to take out the trash ....wish i had a flyswatter got a fly attracted to me big time so annoying...
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Around here, their imaginations take them down roads of speculation that never even come close to the truth. I guess that they think if they can spread the manure around about me, no one will even think to ask about what they're doing. Uh huh...

Emjo, I can think of a much juicier scandal in this family than my underwear. The funniest part is that the person involved and the immediate family think that no one has noticed what she's doing and how often the other party is down "visiting". And since the cousin lives literally surrounded by immediate and extended family, she's kind of out of luck on that ever being the reality. Even her dad knew what was going on long before he died.
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hahaha - the hard stuff!!!
the underwear scandal is absolutely ridiculous - and hypocritical.
when I was 23, my mother and sister chased me across the Ontario countryside thinking I was "doing it" with the guy who was the best man at her wedding. I don't know what they would have done if they had found us. We were in a farmhouse - separete bedrooms -we were just friends - and I had a badly infected throat and fever or we would have been home the day earlier. I got home and no one there - then hours later they turned up, and my mother ripped up one side of me and down the other - for what??? and banned the guy from the house forever. Soap opera!!! They did not listen to my side of the story, but preferred to act on their overly vivid imaginations. Why, Lord, why?
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I'm hitting the hard stuff this afternoon --- my second bag of gummi bears.
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Emjo, after you viewed the link I sent you, I think you can understand even more just how ridiculous the underwear scandal is in the midst of all of their insanity, can't you? Ironic that my underwear is the subject of such talk when the real story is ever so much more juicy, isn't it?
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ros that's "down" a notch or two - she seems very quiet
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My "family", in the true sense of the word, disappeared when my father died. What is left is trouble with a capital T.
I understand the not unpacking, maya. Why would you stay there? And your mum's health is not great. You certainly have a place of honour on the dysfun family thread in my view - come to think of it, I think most of us do
Seeme - know you are still feeling the hurt of losing ur mum - it doesn't go away fast and grief is very physical - you get tired and ur resistance drops. I think you sneezed your bug all the way up here. G and I have had it over 2 weeks now, the young lad who sold me the freezer has had it 2 weeks, seems to be getting worse again right now, but no infection thankfully - just ordinary misery. We have had some milder days too - above freezing today and I have to transfer the meat to the new freezer.
Starri thinking of you as the 13th approaches. In my experience of grieving (which is extensive) the days/weeks before hand are the worst. Have you planned anything for the day? That usually helps - something to help you think/feel about your mum. I think the guys come with the cooking genes/experience or they don't. All of my guys can cook (children, exs and sig other), in fact my middle son is the chef in his household.
ladee -any new rocks? glad u have this time off and know you could use a year or two. r u cleaning yet? I got a load of laundry on for starters but don't intend to do much more till I am more over this bug. Hope ur leg is better with the rest. Still waiting for some blether back! lol
sdpeg - your sis is experiencing mutliple loss -we had 20 deaths on 5 years -friends and family and that was before my youngest son died - no fun. Glad you have one another. My sis told me I was grieving wrong after my son died - like what does she know?
notlike - I believe that there is something about the crabby living on while their nice caregivers die young. Strangely enough that was the topic of a reading exercise in an English class I taught, and there was research to back it up. While I will do what is necessary, I am not prepared to self-sacrifice. The only way I have achieved some peace is by detaching. I will write on that in the dysfun fam thread later. My head still feels like cotton wool right now. Good for you for letting the relatives know about your mum - when it comes down to it -what can she do except yell and you can walk away from that. It becomes a matter of expecting the bad behaviour and planning how to deal with it. - let the inner adult deal with it as the inner child is still hurting and fearful. She needs a hug.
brandy - I am with you and notlike - to h*** with the secrets- let the air in and clear out the cobwebs - if u can't face your life then do something about it - other than hiding it. I like my cards on the table where I can see them (with my glasses on)and others can too - woohoo for being functional - and also for not walking on eggshells!
starri I got heck for telling things as I saw them as a child too, but they never knocked it out of me
cmag -sorry about ur aunt. Sounds like your uncle needs help badly -glad the social worker is stepping in
vic - I could use some rain instead of snow. Hope mum and dad and YOU have a good morning - church or not
jam -u r quiet!
did someone mention lazy - I seem to major in that since I retired - need to get the guys in to shampoo the basement carpet -so what does G do - move some of his stuff into the area which needs shampooing - like put it in the closet, already! He will before he goes away on business!
maya this part of what you just wrote describes my sis " you have to be perfect and have a perfect life before someone can love you, so their lies and illusions are justified in order for them to have what they desire", and she is incapable of facing that it isn't working.Her b'friend has multiple g'friends (openly) the daughter and sil she lives with are alcoholics and she is estranged from her son, and his wife, and her only grandchild who are, as far as I can see, nice, normal people. Oooops, I just aired some dirty laundry in public. Oh well!
carol -hope things are coming together for your mum in terms of treatment and placement, and you have peace of mind about it
mis - thinking of you - hard days right now ((((((hugs)))))
ros - hope ur getting some rest but also enough work. Did that flu knock your mum don;lt a notch or two? Hope Dorothy is fitting in as well as you hoped.
to everyone
love, hugs and prayers ♥♥♥
jo
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I especially love the ones in the family who update their walls from urgent care centers as to how bad they feel and how wonderful their husbands are. Maybe their husbands really are like that, but I think if you have to constantly talk about that, you're trying just as hard to convince yourself as much as you are everyone else.

When I was on Facebook, I received an invitation to my niece's trial, so that kind of did it for me. Trials on felony charges aren't a social occasion to me and the fact that she was treating it as such just made me feel sick inside.
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Thank you and yes I will keep it anonymous. Thanks for what you wrote. And thanks for your permission. And you are right; LOTS of those folks are on FB ... amen to that!
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Sure, but please keep it anonymous. Lots of those folks are on Facebook.
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May I have your permission to copy and paste only the first two sentences of what you just wrote and post it on my FB wall? That is profound!!! I will or will not use your name (depends on what you want) but I honestly felt a weight lifted when I read your first two sentences.
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There are some in my family who love to live in illusions and they get upset when you don't. They don't seem to get it that they're only fooling themselves and that their lies just make them look ridiculous in the end. I've never withheld from my best friend --- he hears it all --- they think it's terrible that I've told him everything I've ever done. To them, you have to be perfect and have a perfect life before someone can love you, so their lies and illusions are justified in order for them to have what they desire.

To be honest, even if the truth sounded better, some would tell a lie because they're so used to lying, that's what they think to do first.
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Honestly I think we are stronger acknowledging that we know this. I know we are not happy knowing this but seriously I was told in counseling that not being in denial of unhealthy, unnourishing relationships is a strong point. So I lean on that strength and am prepared for the future knowing what I know. It's all we do.
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I wish I could say that I have siblings I can depend on to be there for me, but the only value I have in their eyes is when they need money. Because I'm not in the pink of health myself, I told my brother that someone is going to have to be prepared to step up to the plate if something happens to me. He muttered something along the line that I was the only one who was suited to do this, that they all have families and I don't.

Yeah, he's right. I don't and I don't depend on their beginning to be my family when she's gone, either.
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Maya: your second paragraph: can relate.
That's what bro did last year when my dad died, got a dumpster, threw things out, gave things away, told people to come get what they wanted while my mom was still in shock. He moved her away, she wanted to move back into the house so we did (with her doc's and psych's blessings) but after mom is gone...the relationship I have with bro is forever over.
I am blessed with my relationship with my sister. She is supportive and encouraging. She had 5 people die in her family (father, MIL, FIL, two uncles) in just 15 months so she knows how hard it is to care for someone who has given up. She listens while I talk, she feels my pain.
Cutting ties, ending relationships, setting boundaries: that's what I plan on doing when the time comes.
SDPeg
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My mother seems to never heal completely up before she gets another infection --- complications from wire mesh used to reinforce her abdomen after endometrial cancer in 1994 that is now coming apart and traveling. We'd thought that she was doing well this time and then, she got this infection. I always have to wonder if this one will be the one that finally takes her from me.

If something were to happen to her, there would be no need for me to stay here any longer. And her other kids would immediately back up trucks to carry her things away. I don't think I'd ever see any of them again, to be honest.

And it seems that every single time I begin to unpack, another complication happens, too.
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Maya, I can understand, but why would you have to be packing up again so soon?
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Good morning all, I want to know how you ladies got your husbands to cook, I have a hard time just getting mine to reheat something in the microwave.

Seeme? hope you get to feeling better, are people running around in shorts? Glenn was emailing with a friend back home in SC and told him the weather was sunny and clear, light breeze and 78 here in CA and he told him that it was clear, sunny, a light breeze and 38 there..

I'm with you on it needing to get cold, at least have a couple of freezes, the fleas, ticks and mosquitoes will be hell this summer. Most people head this direction to escape the cold, but truthfully? I miss my winter.. Christmas day and 80 degree's just doesn't seem like winter to me.

How have you been holding out Seeme? you doing ok?
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I've been fighting the feeling that it won't do any good to finish the unpacking, that as soon as I get it all unpacked, it will have to be packed up again.

Does that make any sense to anyone else?
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Did mike make extra for me???? and thanks about the pics.... you can tell I am spending more time on the computer and not cleaning.... it's even starting to bug me, so guess a couple of hours and I can get it knocked out... but such a tiny space, in no time it looks cluttered....and think I will force myself to get dressed and leave the house for awhile today... one more day, deep sigh, need about a hundred more.... oh well... enjou your breakfast and hope you get to feeling better soon, bet you have stopped smoking, so maybe that will be the positive from it all...
love ya and take care of yourself today, tell M I said Hi....
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Am liking the cat pictures, Ladee.....

Maya, funny visions in my head...

Hubby is making omelets for breakfast.....will be the best ever. I finally sweated out some of the gunk last night. Maybe I will do more today that just snort, hack, cough, and spit.....still can't get rid of it. This stuff is really going around here. Weather isn't helping. January 8 in NC and you should have to put a jacket on, but people are in shorts and sandals. Got to get cold soon or we won't have a winter and fleas will take over...........everyone have a good day.....time to eat...
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