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Well folks, my caregiving years are now over. Grandma passed this evening in the hospice wing of our local hospital.

I'm totally exhausted. I've been driving back and forth 4 or 5 times a day. It's only about 12 minutes from home, so I would go there intending 4 hours, decide after 2 that I need a break, go home for a short time, feel guilty, and then rinse and repeat.

If there were other family members involved, then we could do whole shifts. But with just me, it's very tough.

Anyway, I'd like to respond to some of comments that were made, but 1:30 am is not the right time. Especially following all that. Tommorow is more like it.

Meanwhile, can you believe 8 1/2 years of servitude without even so much as 1/4 day free for myself the whole time? How did that happen? How can my sister - only 25 minutes away - live with herself after contributing absolutely nothing?
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feeling stressed out with the Holidays coming. with my Dad moving in here, all utilities have gone up and so have groceries. yeh he gets SSI but my Mother still lives at thier house, and has to use it to pay thier household bills, but she is unable to care for my dad, her health is also poor, my daughter stays there to help. So how do I have Christmas with no money? We need cheering up here. We need a little Christmas. I heard somehow you can get the government to PAY you, to take care of a family member, anyone ever heard of that? so..how do I feel??? well usually I am full of Holiday Cheer, but This Year..I am very Christmas Glum! and I don't like that! I've always been a happy person, everyone sees a change in me and knows, this is not..Sherrie. SIGH.
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Talked to sis tonight and she said that dad said he felt the worst he has felt in a long time. He seemed like he felt fine with me today. But sis did say that he felt like he was getting a cold. That doesn't surprise me. Connor, me and mary all have been sick with the cold in the last week and we all have been around dad. I've still got mine. Still hacking and coughing with mine. Can't get rid of this damn chest congestion. So i'm sure he caught it from one of us three. Plus this crazy weather we been having around here too doesn't help matters. Well, ya'll have a good nite. Love and hugs stormyyyyyyyyy
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Whoo-hoo i got the cow pattie!!!! First time for me. And i didn't even know it. Boy, the things we get happy about these days. It's quiet scary.... Hugs stormy
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Hey gang I am so very sorry I haven't been on the site lately. It was for a good reason my sister Jeanne came down for the week so most of the time I spent with her. We talked reminisced and looked at pictures. Mom was great the whole week only doing the whole calling for me a few times during the week which was a god send and she had a ball on Thanksgiving. My sister's friends came over for the day and we had a great time talking and eating. Thanksgiving came off without a hitch which was great. My sister and I worked together as a team and got everything done though it was hard with mom beckoning me every five minutes. Finally we just had enough put her in her wheelchair and had her come out with us till she got too tired to stay up. Though I have to tell you I didn't realize how lonely I really was till my sister had to go home on Saturday. She brought her little poodle dog Romeo with her and mom very much enjoyed that. My sis kind of knows what I am going through though it was her husband. She lost Lloyd in 91 to cancer. He was a stubborn man and tried to push her away but she is a tough lady just like our mom. Told him right to his face he could pull all the crap he wanted she wasn't going anywhere. So she understands the stress I am under so much. She also helped me with the house did the dishes and what not. Yet without criticizing me ONCE. Got to love her so much. Really miss her cried when she left. I know its stupid as I talk to her every day.
Jam I am sorry to hear that the col is sick but glad to hear she is doing better. I know you must have been having some bad memories come up with it being this time of year and losing your mom. I am here if you need me.
Ladeeda glad you are getting some more rain its gonna be a GREEEEEEEEEEEEEN Christmas for ya lol. Not me I want my white Christmas. When there is no snow here they call it a black Christmas (which means a lot of ppl get sick) Hope you got some rest on your vacation. I love the new name of the Banana split ha ha ..so did my sis when I told her.
Welcome to the newbies we are a family here... we rely on each other we beotch we moan we complain and vent because we so can't do it in our daily lives otherwise we are in trouble.
Barb honey … my mom is 83 I know the feeling of resentment when it comes to siblings.
Callmeishmal Honey you did the best you could do. Eight years is a long time. She is now where she can be taking care of till she leaves this mortal coil. You did everything right don't doubt yourself and don't let that Guilt get to you.
Seem honey I was thinking of you this holiday. Remembering how it was the first time without daddy. Its so not easy during the holidays when you just lost someone. Huggs from NY to you. Love ya sweetie.
Stormy so glad you got a break and had some company over. Though you got tired from it. It was good to have someone face to face to talk about something in common.
They have their lives their grandkids got jobs got married and all that. I am 34 years old. I went to college (had to drop out) I did traveling for a bit when my mom was staying with my sis and when mom was not as bad as she is now. I should be grateful I got to do what I did for as long as I did but sometimes there are days I want to scream. I don't have any friends around here... I don't go out (unless we go to my sisters) I finally enjoyed myself this week cause sister came down and I had someone to talk to and visit with. We drank rum and cokes and just relaxed when mom went to bed. Sometimes you think when is it MY time when am I gonna be able to just be concerned about ME but I wouldn't give up taking care of mom for the world. Its just very frustrating and lonely and hair pulling tedius … sigh sorry I went on a rant there.
Holidays are coming way too fast I have been working on my artwork and my business. Had to file my state tax return for this quarter owe 34 bucks and something to the state. YAY NOT. Have to pay bills the end of this week and might go to sisters this weekend not sure we will see. One new design is up on the site and I got my catalog done. If you want to check it out http://lilacorn.net/mysticglen/mysticglendesignscatalog.pdf you can download it. The workshop wasn't so great I sold ONE licensee plate and I did have some people looking and were interested and said they would contact me but as of yet nothing. Oh well.
On the bright side and bad side when we are talking about families. One is my idiot brother called because my low life scum nephew told him that his mother misses him and wants him to call. (mom all she said was she never hears from him.so she wouldn't know anything about him) Not that she wanted him to call. Well he called and said we weren't home not sure why we didn't hear the phone didn't want us to know his home phone. (whatever hello Caller ID) I called got beotched out by his wife and he called later to tell me NOT to call his home phone. That he would get a hodl of his this weekend (yeah right he did not call once whatever)
The good side is we got a call Saturday. My aunt Kate who is my dad's sister and my moms sister in law twice over. My mom married her brother and she married my moms brother. Anyway we haven't talked to her since daddy passed away. she said she didn't have any family up here after that anyway she was thinking about the family and wanted to talk to us. Didn't have any of our numbers but sister Kathy's. So she called Kathy who called us and now mom is back talking to her sister in law and hopefully they will be up herei n the spring. Also got to talk to cousin who was one of my sister Jeannes best friends growing u p. So a lot of us were crying. But the best thing is mom is now talking to her and we will keep each updated. Mom was fine through the call. It was my sis Jeanne and I that were crying. But its good that we are all talking again. Life's too short sometimes for bull and Aunt Kate is a year older than mom. Found out two of our cousins weren't doing so great because they got hit by Tractor trailers in virginia. But it was great to hear from them. Anyway sorry to anyone I missed and sorry its so long.
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Evening everyone.... day started out with me walking in the door and Sonny is on the couch, pale as can be... Marie said when he went to get her paper, he came back in and said he was so weak he could hardly walk.... took his pulse, 58 and irregular... told Marie we might need to take him to the Dr... when her HH RN came to take her blood I asked him to take his BP...been too long ago, but I remember the top number was only 70, again, I tell Marie, we need to go ahead and make him a Dr's appt.... she asked me if I thought she should call her daughter, yes, give her a heads up... she did none of the above... first time I have been pissed at Marie in awhile.... I hate being the "off the street" caregiver that no one listens too... If I had alphabet soup behind my name, she might trust me more, but she couldn't afford me....!!!!!!
He was very pale and weak.... as the day progressed he felt better, and he was more lucid... at one point when I went to check on him, had him lieing down in bed, he looked up at me and said, "guess I need to quit drinking".. I busted out laughing.. that is one of our jokes, the little sweety doesn't drink.. but when he does something irratic, I'll ask him if he's been drinking again....So for him to remember that this morning was good...
Hope Marie let her daughter know something, if not I am calling her myself tomorrow while Marie is at the Dr....
He ate good today, and was finally getting some color back in his face, but was still wobbly...I love that little man.. couldn't bear for somthing bad to be wrong..I know Marie was worried, but with this being flu season, just making him an appt. would have been a prevenitive thing to do..... oh well, I know how to dial 911....
Hope everyone is doing ok.. seems like a lot of sickness for our elders right now... Callme, please let us know what is going on with your grandmother... I know this it tough... Did the same with Ruth, just sat there and watched her breath...
ASG, those nasty UTI's, doesn't take long for one to do it's damage does it... enjoy your night without worry...glad they are keeping her overnight, just in case
Jam, don't envy you going to the dentist, I need to bad, but have to save money first... sorry the col has slipped so far back, but you never know, she may bounce back and surprise you....
Seeme, love you and am hoping the holiday did not take too much out of you... just know that I love ya, and you are always in my prayers.. holidays are tough, in the best of circumstances. hugs and angels to you .
Will check in later... love and hugs.
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We have a uti. Well I don't she does. That explains it:) she was already on antibiotics but I guess they were not touching it. So in a few days she should be good as new. They are keeping her to run more test. She has a room mate a little old lady who is 90, she keeps rolling her eyes at me saying do you believe she is 90?!?! Oh Lord I hope I don't live that long. She is so giddy laughing when she says it its almost funny. Jam I'm glad col is better. Somthing about the changing of the seasons huh?
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Good Evening Posse!

stormy.........COW PATTIE!

Welcome to our new poster.....Barb, glad to see you here and will try to get caught up with you.

I have spent the better part of the day trying to find out if and when the col was getting released. They finally called after 3 and I had given up and was already on my way to pick her up whether they were done with their paperwork or not! She is back in the NH....she thought she was coming "home"........there is no way she could be home. Her mind is virtually nonexistent and she is pitifully incompetent using the walker.....which she has dubbed her stroller....:) Of course right now she is still sore from her fall. Her doctor has ordered more PT, she is still on the antibiotics and the "good stuff" for her cough. She wanted to go straight to the dining room for dinner after I changed her ears.....so I guess she wasn't feeling too tired.

Friday is "D" day.......dentist.....not looking forward to this at all.

Hope everyone had a good day.....will check back later.

Happy Trails,
Jam
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Barbsvineyard, if your mother doesn't have Alzheimer at 88, I think you have dodged the bullet...
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Barbs- i know what you mean. It is coming up on the end of yet another year. And just wondering if next november if i am going to be saying the same thing again. How long will my life be like this. When will it ever end? Hugs stormyyyyyy.
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Well, dad goes for his ct scan tomorrow morning. Sis asked me last night "Why" is he having a ct scan done. I told her i don't know. I know what she was getting at, she is wondering since the lung dr told us 2 weeks ago that it looked like dad didn't have any malignancy then why would he be wanting us to get a ct done. She said didn't he just have one of those done recently. I looked back on the calendar and his last one was the end of july. So maybe we will hear something the end of the week. Hugs stormyyyy
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I'm exhausted and overwhelmed. Resentful that my siblings can't/won't help. My back is aching from trying to take care of my mother and a 50+ year old house that she refuses to leave, that's falling down around my ears. Lonely - seems I have lost contact with friends my age. Envious, that those same friends are free to take long vacations and spa days. Thankful, too - thankful that I do have a good relationship with my mom, that at 88 she still has her mental faculties (no Alzheimer's yet, thank God), and that she is still able to enjoy life a little. I try to see this as a test of my character, a way of building strength in me. When I'm not too tired/irritable/exhausted, I try to see this time of care giving as a gift. And then there are days when I'm ready to yell "God, take the gift back and give me some cash instead!" :)
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Callme- My hat is off to you honey. 8 years is a long, long time to take care of someone. I don't know how you have done it. Prayers for you and for your grandmother. Hugs stormy.
Asg- I hope your aunt feels better soon. And i hope you get some rest with no more early morning calls... Hugs stormy
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Thanks to everyone who commented.
Yesterday my grandmother did not "surface" even once while I was there. By late evening her breathing had become so shallow and infrequent that I was 95% sure she would be gone by morning. But no call yet and I am not about to make one.

Instead I will shower and head over to the hospice wing now. Inexcusably late start but I am wasted from over a week of extreme stress and sleep dep. Will have time for details later.
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ASG. let us know how Auntie is...Hate that your day got started with a scaire but hope she is ok...prayers....
Back to work for me today... really enjoyed my time off... got a lot done and rested a lot too so no complaints.
Hope everyone has a good day, Vic, where are you?? Hope your time away was fun and relaxing.... prayers and angels to everyone....
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OH wow ... yeah, some calls come at all hours but those are the most frightening. Auntie is in my prayers this morning. SDPeg
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Note to self: if an 800 number calls you at 5:00 a.m. it is NOT a telemarketer or Bill collector!! Its prob Life Alert. Do not..I repeat, Do not hang up on them. Guess I will get the hang of that someday:) I did quickly come to and realize telemarketers don't call that early. Auntie fell again, and now agrees to go to hospital. But wants to wait to call her doctor first?!?! One step forward I guess. I hope they find what's wrong. I feel so bad for her.
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I'm up late this eve. Aunt not feeling well. I think she might have a little virus bug or somthing. She had a fall, was a little confused. Wanted to go to bed early. I'm scared to death she will fall and break somthing, so I'm trying to stay awake for a while. Gonna sleep close to her room. She has done ok so far going to the bathroom, I've gone in a couple times to watch her, to make sure she can do it ok. Seems like she did this a year ago. Got sick, I was shopping around for an inexpensive baby monitor, she could barly walk. Just like the snap of a finger she was back to her self that afternoon. Small sickness messes with them so bad. Hope everyone hass a good night. I'm gonna try to get back into the swing of things.
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Emijo. Oh honey. That is so sad. I can't imagine being in those shoes with your son. Since my youngest was born, I get parnoid everytime I hear statistics that claim 1outta 5 children this or that. You did a very selfless thing. What a hard descision, never feel guilt over that, I have seen children/young adults in rehab hospitals who were vegtables, parents begging for the hospital to do somthing, some had been in that shape for years, having one illness after the other. They couldn't be rehabilitated. Many of those parents also saying "we shoulda let him/her go" cause they can't go back and change things now, just because they saw for themselfs what the Dr. Told them was right. One lady who had a boy who had a bike accident, said I thought, the Dr. Was wrong, I had this idea he would wake up, and we would walk outta here in a few days. Then, after many weeks, no recovery, I wanted to just let him go of his suffering, but it was to late.
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Brandy, Love joel, hubby lovess joel, he reads his books, his mother gave him a copy before she died. Hubby had been in conflict with himself about his religion for years. Had somthing to do with a realitive preacher being so negative and scaring it out of him. Joel brought positve back to him. I really think it has changed his life. I was never a big fan of t.v. evangilist, but he has a pwerful message.
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Guilt free I mean.
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Call me ishmel, I had this big long thing wrote and boom, lost it. Anyways, I think you have made the right decision. 105 and outta her mind, bedridden, nope doubt she would wanna live that way. Hospice is a hard descision, but it is well worth the comfort they can provide. 81/2 years, you have done well. I always think my charge is old at 86, then I hear of all these 90+ 100+. I'm like wow. Bless you, nothing to feel guilty about, be happy for her long life, feel proud for what you provided her, and get your life back.
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Ladee, Grapes of Wrath Waggon?? Bahahahaha, I love it, you should see what my hubby came up with, for less that 500, a travel trailer. But its big enough for us to all go camping in. Needs a whole lotta work, but is structualy(sp) sound. My dream is to be able to fix it up and go camping while the kids are little. Not sure if that will happen though. One can dream can't they:) Stormy, so glad you had a good time with your company. How nice that she has so much in common with you, and yes my dear this is one of the hardest things you will ever do.
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Hi all – sounds like everyone got through the weekend fairly well
Cmag – hope your son is recovering and you are from the neck thing. I wonder what will happen to mother if she out lives her capital. She used to live off the income of her investments, but in her new place she is using capital to cover her monthly costs. I think her plan is that my sister and I will support her, if her income runs out, but I cannot afford to do that, so my solution would be to find an affordable situation.
Jam –dogs do it because they can! I have done some grandchildren shopping and better get onto the rest of it. Hope the col is better. I have been reading several stories where people are between a rock and a hard place with their elders –and not only with elders – we had to make fast and difficult decisions with Gordie. The time of year must be a trigger for memories of your mum and now the col with pneumonia –(((((hugs)))) – let us know how she is
Ladee -RAIN!!!! -love the moist air –does Diva go out in it? GOWW sounds right to me
Asg – small town gossip - ugh!!! Glad you had a good Thanksgiving -yes auntie is doing some weird things -don’t doubt yourself
Seeme - ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) -the empty chair thing – know it well – these special occasions are hard. We lit a special candle…
Sdpeg – busy, busy time near the end of term – lots of pressure. Next term should be better and a vacation will be great – good luck with all the school work –good to have that discussion with your daughter
Brandy - hope you feel better soon – I am listening to Joel right this moment!
Stormy –glad it went well and you had someone to talk to who understands – that helps a lot – nice of sis to take lil red
Ishmael – love that name , had a student called Ishmael – 8 ½ yrs. is a very long time, and you are young, and your grandma is very old. 105.5 is a tribute to her and also to you. Quality vs. quantity is one of the big questions. Sounds like she needs more care than you could give her. Would it be sensible, considering the issues you mention? No, not at all. A little personal perspective - my youngest son was assaulted, age 23, and went into a coma from head injury. They did surgery to relieve pressure, but the damage was too great and in a bad place. He was on a ventilator and, after a couple of days, we had “THE discussion” - the one about pulling the plug. Their opinion was that even if he survived he would never be the same person, and would have very poor quality of life. We gave him to God, and they pulled the plug, and he went very peacefully. We all have a time, and we concluded that was his. Is it simple? In some ways, yes, it is. Is it easy? No. Please do come back and let us know how things are going. Thinking of you…
Beta – your mum made an amazing come-back!
Ros – agreed - guilt should not rear its ugly head and you are right, death is natural. Sometimes I think doctors prolong dying rather than prolonging living.
Everyone - let us know how you are.
Got above freezing here today – yay!!!!! Did a bit of cooking and floor cleaning – good enough. My basement renters are moving out at the end of the month and I am relieved. There will be some clean up, no doubt, and then space for storage and G’s activities, and I will reclaim the upstairs. Think I am getting a handle on my gut issues –had a light bulb turn on the other day. Delayed-reaction allergies as well as immediate ones. Something to work on! Have a good week everyone!
Love, hugs and prayers.♥♥♥
jo
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I agree with what others have said to CallMe about the people we love. I prayed for God to take my Dad as he was in pain so much and suffering and his quality of life was minimal although he did had his full mental faculties. My mom on the other hand has always been a chronic complainer so the complaints go unheard even if she is in pain. She has no life threatening issues but her memories are fading and that's frustrating for her. I pray that God takes her so she isn't making herself crazy by wondering when she will be well again and have full control of her brain activities. Sad that we have to say those prayers but compassionate at the same time. I have thought about it as well Rossella and have had a conversation or two with two of my daughters about what to do when I no longer can think for myself. I told them I don't want them feeling this pain, guilt, etc so I am having a lucid conversation with them now. It would be unfair for me to impose myself upon them (loving daughters or not) when I may not even recognize them as my own kin. I hope they honor my wishes when the time comes.
SDPeg
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Callmeishmael, you have taken care for years and years of a lady who now is 103 years old. What else did you want to do? I think you must be very proud of yourself and feel absolutely no guilt whatsoever. My mother is "only" 85 but the Alzheimer has savaged her life so much that I don't like the idea she lasts much longer. Death is natural. I believe that "at the other side" my father and her parents and her siblings who died before her are waiting for her. Of course I can't be sure of that but I believe it. And I wouldn't like her to suffer for a long time. I think the same thing about myself. I'd rather my life ended before getting the Alzheimer disease, even if I had to live few more years from now. This disease is terrible...
I am sorry if I sound cynic, but I live in the same situation... Rossella-Achab
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CallMe..........of course we are interested and will leave the lights on for you when you are able to come back and visit with us. We will be here to walk this journey with you.....no one should have to do this alone and I'm glad you took the time to find us. You are now facing what I will probably be facing soon and I am going to be doing the same thing. Who knows for certain if keeping Grandma at home would have made a difference, however small, the outcome would have been the same. This way, at least, you are able to be with her, with your physical and mental well-being intact. I think there comes a time when even though our loved one is medicated so deeply to take away the pain, that God steps in and eases the process they are going through. And the care you have given for over 8 years added to Grandma's life. I've sent a prayer to you and angels to watch over Grandma...............

Hugs,
Jam
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Yes, CMI, I am interested... please come back and let us know how YOU are doing... and yes, the hard question, quality vs. quantity... sounds as tho you have made the right choice...and the 'starvation/dehydration' is simply what her body is doing getting ready for the next stage... Hospice is simply making her comfortable... it is hard to watch... but I believe she knows you are there... When hospice was called in for Ruth, I stayed by side at night, just talking to her... made arrangements for her grandson who was overseas to call her, the only time she opened her eyes is when she heard his voice on the phone....I am sorry you are having to go thru this, but you are doing the right thing... it is hard to have this responsibility, but you are doing what love is all about..... hugs and angels to help you thru this next part.... please come back and share.
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well callmelshmael....i thought same thing..mom 80 with alzheimers, stopped watching americas funniset ...wont open eyes stopped eatting for a week...got backed up went to er they pulled it but only after waiting for 4 hours..had to stand by the bathroom cuz has panic attacks round strangers so i got to stand by the bathrroom...4 days later after taking stool softners... backed upagain..felt sorry for her so at 11pm gave her a suppository,, felt the hard poop ball ...so jsut pulled it out.... will not do again....anyways brother in new mex. i am in ca. said cruel to call hospice and no feeding tube..i say wuts the point her mind is gone...she was miserable..scared..sleeping all day...why give her feeding tube..so if he wants to do that.. then i will take her to a medicare facility in new mex. and he can put her on feedign tube...cuz i know my mom wont want that... i have had her in my home for 2 half years... but she made a come back doc put her on amphetamine salt- she stays awake from 9 - 8pm eats... poops and watches tv...thank you lord for the new doctor!!!!!u know u got to do what u got to do.....im proud of you for doing it for so long.... keep ur head up
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The Caregiver....How am * I * doing today??

Well, pretty darn lousy. After 8 1/2 years of taking care of my grandmother - now 105.5 - with absolutely no help from anyone, she is now in the hospice wing and probably hours from death.

Don't have time to provide details now, as I am heading back to my depressing vigil in a few minutes. But I am almost certain that I could have given her a year or two more time if I hadn't agreed to the hospice care. However, it all comes down to quality of life.

She has been bedridden for at least the last 6 months, has poor hearing and vision, stopped looking at the paper altogether, has been tuning out early on our traditional 8 - 10 pm tv fare, etc. I just realized that I can no longer lift her from the bed to the wheelchair to the toilet anymore without risk of cracking a rib, or snapping some other bone. So it would have meant all meals in bed too, instead of the usual ride to our dinner table.

As of 1 week ago, she began exhibiting RAGING dementia, as opposed to her normal intermittent possibly-explainable-by-general-nastiness type. We're talking horses in the room, asking what time decades-gone relatives left our house today, and stuff like that.

Anyway, gotta go, but it really sucks because I know I could have done better than just morphine/starvation/dehydration. But even if I am right, would it be sensible for me to completely lose 24/7 more of my life for another 2 years, and go deeper into debt just to gain 2 years of ultra-low quality of life for her? Not one person I've spoken with thinks so.

More on this later if anyone is interested.
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