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Yes Stormy I agree with everything Jam said. Don't worry too much about cleaning the house, and enjoy the company! I know you will have a very pleasant evening.
Happy TKSgiving to you all!
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Happy Thanksgiving to all!

We are taking the easy road concerning food by getting the K & W Thanksgiving Meal today.
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Happy Thanksgiving to my friends on YOU.... love you and have a great day....
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Good Morning Posse!

Again I hope everyone has a blessed day with family and/or friends. Our day is shot to hell in a handbasket.....as my Mom always said. The col is worse, now running a temp, but did go to breakfast. Target just got through strongly suggesting to a nurse that she call the on-call physician and get her started on some anti-biotics and breathing treatments. Target is also having a gout flare-up and is limping around and his foot is so swollen he can't get a shoe on..........and I've been awake since 2 am. If I had known 40 yrs ago how much my heart would be broken by children, I would have had the grandchildren first.

stormy.........you're stressing yourself out for no reason. Yes, it would have been nice if the hubby had cleared things with you first, but since we all know now he's as hard headed as the rest of the male population, this is your chance to kick back and enjoy being waited on. Remember that your friend is also a care giver....what do you think her house looks like? And they aren't coming to see your house, they are coming to see you. Connor is old enough to pick up his own toys....time he did so. Make it a game and see how fast he makes it happen. As long as you have a place to cook, a place to eat, a place to visit and a path to the bathroom, you don't need anything else. Have a good time and a good meal. And if Dad is still wobbly, he probably shouldn't be left alone. Is he still choking on his food? Another reason to not be left alone. Have you considered someone to stay with him at night? Does he need a lot of care at night? If not, then you could hire someone, for less money because they will be sleeping, just to be there "in case". Don't start worrying about a mole they say is "abnormal".....they are going to say that if there is a slight variation from perfectly round and light brown. So using that term doesn't automatically label it as cancerous. Relax and enjoy your holiday.

No Black Friday shopping for me either unless it's from the computer. I did that one year so I could get some great deals from Walmart. That was back when they started the sale at 6 but were still open and allowed people access to the sale items.....when I got there the parking lot was already full and when I walked in people had carts already piled high just waiting for 6 to check out.........absolutely useless trip and I have never gone back. And you can get most deals sitting at the computer anyway.

SDPeg.....thank you and yes I was thinking the same thing about my Mom leaving us last year. She got sick on Christmas Eve and passed in the early morning hours of the 29th. It's okay to call me that.....that's what Mom always called me. I answer to just about anything these days...lol. My Dad wanted a boy so badly, so my name is actually two names, not one like a lot of people spell it. It took one more girl before he got his boy!

Happy Trails,
Jam
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Happy Thanksgiving to all my caregiver family. I truly hope this holiday is a blessed one.

ladee- not need for the sun glasses before you see the pics on facebook. It's not yet like the Griswald's yet, but someday it will be.
seeme- I checked out the website. They don't allow atvs so it looks like we won't be making the trip to MO for it. It sure does look like tons of fun in a truck though.
stormy- we have life line for grandma but she doesn't know what the pendant is that she wears. We're considering of returning it. It cost us $35 a month. There is some out there that doesn't cost a thing and you can program numbers into it.
Jam sorry to hear the dil is giving you problems.

Grandma has been on decline with her mind lately. I'm not sure it's just because of the holidays or what she has an dr appointment of the 15th. She told me the other day that I remind her of my mil. Kinda of broke my heart to hear say that. She's always comparing me to my mil. I was just starting to get know my mil before my mil passed away from colon cancer and that's when we came to take care of grandma.
I did the black friday shopping a couple of times and I said that I wouldn't do it again. Now we don't go to early sales no sense when people are camping out and getting the deals. We do go out later in the day though. It's always fun.
Hugs and prayers to all
Smiley
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Hey everyone, well i didn't get around to cooking everything i wanted to for thanksgiving but i guess what i got will do. Just ran out of time. I did cook a corned ham and rice at dads today and then i cooked two macaroni pies for my family of cousins, aunts and uncles that we eat with tomorrow or rather today. Then i cooked some candied yams tonight and i will cook a string bean casserole in the morning. And i mixed up dressing at dads today but sis is going to stick it in the oven for me at dads cause i didn't have room in the oven to cook it today with the giant ham in there.
Ros- I would ship you some of this food over there if i could for you and your mom. I hope you and your mom have a blessed thanksgiving. Hugs
I can't remember if i told ya'll that the dr told dad that he was borderline hyperthyroid from his last tsh levels which was last week. He goes for a ct scan tues. And blood work soon after that.
Dad seems like he is doing better, he has more energy than what he has had in the last 20 months and his appetite has gone through the roof. Every time i turn around he is saying that he is starving. But he has lost 5 lbs with all this eating. My sister and brother were saying the other day that since dad is doing better maybe we could get him one of those life alert necklaces and then he could stay by his self some. What do ya'll think? Then dad told sis that it was a waste of money to have mary to come and sit with him everyday after i leave him at 4. He says that he can stay by his self. He is still wobbly walking. Acts like his legs ache when he goes to stand up. So i would like to get ya'll advice about what ya'll think would be the best thing to do.
Then the other thing is my dear husband (mind you it was a lovely gesture of him, but not the right time) took it upon his self and invited a couple over for supper this saturday night. Hubby works with the guy and his wife is in the same boat as me as her mom has just been diagnosed with cancer of the bone. We have talked on the phone about my dad and her mom. And i really would like to hear more about what is going on with her and her mom. She is a caregiver also for her mom. And our husbands wanted to cook us supper saturday nite. Which that is fine except my house is a WREAK. And thanksgiving week is not the time to have company over. We always go to my aunts house so i never have any company over during this time. Now on top of having to cook thanksgiving i have had to try to clean this house up. I still haven't gotten over connor's bday. And there are toys everywhere. I just wish he would have okayed it with me first before he invited them over. And maybe we could have planned this after the holidays were over. Plus i think i am getting connor's cold now.... There is never enough time to do anything or enough energy.
Then I called dads dermatologist today to find out the results from the mole they took off of dad last week and they told me that it was abnormal and they have made him a follow up appt for march. They acted like it was no big deal with the mole. What does that mean? That the mole is abnormal, does that mean more cancer or what? Are there abnormal moles out there that don't mean anything? I wish dad could stay some at night by his self to give my sister a break. My brother and nephew stay some at night with him but not enough. And i just can't do it. Hubby and i made out a schedule for me months ago when i was so depressed and it doesn't say anything about staying at night with him and hubby is a believer of sticking with the schedule. Oh well it's all the time something. Huh? Well ya'll have a nice turkey day and don't eat too much!!! Love and hugs to all Stormyyyyyyyy
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Happy Thanksgiving to all of my wonderful friends!!!! I hope all of you have a wonderful day.
Emjo- Please tell me more about your symptoms of your thyroid levels being low. Dad is exhibiting more signs of this hyperthyroidism. Dr told him that he was borderline hyperthyroid. Hugs to all!!!!
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(((((jam)))) - take deep breaths - hope the col is OK - try to enjoy your dinner - not easy with family issues I know ((((((hugs))))
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Immaturity and greed reside in the same person.
I am sorry about your mom last year. And this is having you feel those feelings all over again. Hugs.
(I saw your name is JoAnne...that was my best friend's name in 9th grade and we called her Jo so sorry I fell back into habit...perhaps you prefer JAM.)
I pray the rattling cough is just that ... a cough.
Good night and sleep well.
SDPeg
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I think dil is mad because she found out the succession of all inheritances, ours and the col's, goes to hubby, me, my son, his daughter. Don't know why she should get mad, because I told my son that I don't intend for there to be any money left.....we're going to spend every dime and he was just fine with that! As for the properties and personal assets, when I'm gone I really don't think I'll care what happens to things. The whole thing was really stupid and this girl will either slam the phone down or walk away mumbling when she hears something she doesn't like. She's getting very good at biting the hand that feeds her and frankly I'm real tired of helping to keep their heads above water, only to draw back a stump.....lol.
NH hasn't heard back on the xray yet. We just called to find out, and they said she does have a deep rattling cough......would really like to get her started on Ventolin tonight if possible. Pneumonia took my Mom a year ago in December....this I don't need now.

So goodnight, sleep well my friends!
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Happy Thanksgiving to all! Hope the various problems get ironed out along the way and everyone has a good day.
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Oh Jo, doesn't it seem as though everything comes down at one time? The DIL pitting your son against you (yes, that's how I see it), being "cordial" on a holiday (well that's going to be a lot of families right?), and hearing about a fall and cough and decline from COL ... enough to want to pull the gizzards out of that turkey with a vengeance huh?
Hang in there with that last nerve ok?
Hugs across the miles from SDPeg
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Good Evening Posse!

Wanted to take a few minutes tonight to wish everyone a very Happy Thanksgiving!

I'm not sure how our day will go tomorrow. Things around here have not been pleasant today. My immature dil got mad at me this morning, dragged my son into the middle of it, and now he is mad at me. I asked him if they still intended to have dinner with us tomorrow, he said yes if we want them to, then I get an email from her stating they will meet us there and will be cordial. My last nerve is getting real close to snapping.....then received a call from the NH tonight, the col has a horrible, deep cough, no temp, runny nose, doing a chest xray and she also tried to sit on her walker, which doesn't have a seat on it, and fell. They didn't see any injuries and she wasn't complaining. Her mental status is declining horribly quick. My mind is at it's limit tonight.

So I wish everyone a peaceful day tomorrow, filled with love as you are with your families.

Happy Trails,
Jam
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Happy Thanksgiving to all!! :) Now to take my muscle relaxer pill and go to bed.
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Peg of Tucson: Congrats for the new job! It's good you can do it from home - so you can organize it as you wish.
Peg of San Diego: I had the same situation - I lost my father and then I lost my mother's brain... But for me it was easier, as more than 10 years passed between one thing and another. Your mother is just at the beginning of her decline, and I really hope for both of you that it goes slow. One day will arrive when you will have to tell her the contrary of what you are telling now - "No, mom, you have no problems at all - you are just tired, this is why you don't remember things". You'll understand yourself when that moment will arrive! I hope you are going to have sound conversations with her for a long time.
Good night everybody and happy thanksgiving....
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Hey gang sorry for not posting for the last week or so. Welcome to the newbies, we are all family here, helping each other along this very tiring very stressful depressing road. If you need anything we are right here for ya.
Cmag I am sorry you got home so late with your son. Those planes during the holidays are plane torture I remember the year we had to go pick up my niece from deployment during the holidays. She was about six hours late and they had lost her luggage (thankful she still had clothes at my sisters!) Not so fun with the neck pains I have the same problem sometimes when I am sitting at the computer for too long or working on something. The exercises you prescribe Jo sound like a good idea. I have scoliosis of the spine so I slouch QUITE a lot.
Smiley my dad's favorite thing was putting up the lines even at 78 he still would climb up that ladder and hang every light we had on the house. Used to scare the HELL out of my mom. Heck he used to climb on the roof on our neighbors house to clear the snow for her. Terrifying he was never one to be afraid of anything and did it. We'd have inflatables and a nativity scene that he had since my siblings were little. I have to get lights so I can decorate this year. I can't wait to see the pictures for YOUR house. I love Christmas lights just not too big on the all white my sister does ALL blue … we used to ride around looking at lights and daddy would say oh look all blue lets go steal them for your sister (LOL)
Seem I don't envy you I HATE black Friday I would NEVER go out and do it. I did it once with Daddy when he was alive. We hit all the big stores and by the time we were done. I hated shopping with a passion. LOL He used to find the best deals and he could weasel them down in price BIG time. He was a big bargain shopper except for his gift for my mom. He always got her something very special the one year he bought her pearl and diamond earrings. He loved to get her anything Knowing it would bring tears to her eyes. That was HIS gift for the holiday. The one year it was a casio organ which sits here not played but since dad bought it it GOES NO WHERE. NO matter how much Kathy might say something.
We got home from Kathy's on Sunday night but I was so tired from the weekend I just crashed so hard. We didn't do so great at the workshop. Had some bites and some might be calling me or ordering later hopefully in the first of next month as shipping is a beotch during the holidays. Mom is doing better but we are getting her back on the Trazadone to get her to sleep at night. We figured it out no UTI thankfully here either. My sister Jeanne is here for the week which is good. Mom is spending time with her and I am getting to spend time with her too. We did cleaning in the house I don't mind cleaning with her as there is not lot of the whole ridicule that my sister Kathy does when she visits. There is a whole drama going on here now. My jackarse brother called twice today and has beotched at me cause I didn't catch the first call on the phone. The other is cause he said to call back (for mom to okay Captain DENIAL) so I did to his home phone and his wife snapped my head off and said hes not here he was working. Then to call his cellphone. I didn't I was kind of ticked off. So I get another phone call on my voice mail on my phone. He beotches at me for calling his house. FINE if he wants to contact mom THEN he can damn well call. I HAD it. I hate people who come to my house and then run their mouths and put words in my mothers mouth. She said she didn't see Jim how the hell would she know anything about him so my scum nephew told my idiot brother that mom said that she wanted him to call. Thats NOT what she meant and he knew it. She would like him to stop by once in awhile shes hard of hearing so its hard for her to talk on the phone. Stupid arse people should not be talking about things they don't know. So yeah Drama up the arse here. Anyway got to go get stuff ready for tomorrwo and hopefully better day tomorrow. HAPPY THANKSGIVING to all my caregiving sistas and brothers. I am thankful for all of you guys who keep me going when I want to rip my hair out at the roots.
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I agree we are family and I am thankful for all the diversity in our family. Thank you for who you are to me. SDPeg
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Jus wanted to drop in say give my other FAMILY Thanksgiving wishes. I love you all. I hope you have a peaceful wonderful day:)
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As this day ends and all the festivities begin, at least the preparations, I wish everyone here a wonderful and Blessed Thanksgiving Day......and may we learn to carry those feelings over until next year.

Seeme Sue
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I think the most common reason for muscle weekness is lack of use which usually comes with age

having said that my neck muscles were weak when my thyroid was low
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cmag -whatever the reason for it, one answer is to strengthen the muscles that hold your head up -no prescription needed, no cost, no side effects except feeling better and a stronger neck and better posture - and not a whole lot of effort - maybe 5 minutes a day to begin with and then as few times a week :)
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Thanks dr. jo. I've noticed lately that whenever I sit down in general that my head seems to want to drop instead of staying up. I hope this muscle weakness is not a sign of some interaction with my meds.
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gotta put my 2 cents worth in here -after the dry socket pain I had neck spasms where the muscles attach to the skull, and the pain was quite bad so I looked up some exercises on the internet - didn't want to take any more pain pills if I could help it - and find if I do them regularly the pain goes and is staying away and the bonus is better posture too. Shoulder scrunches, pullng your shoulder blades together, pushing your head back against resistance etc. If you are not confident starting them yourself I suggest a physiotherapist could show you what to do or possibly even a trainer. I did use some of the robaxicet type pills a little at the beginning -but only 1/2 each day to loosen up. I do the exercises in the bath when I am relaxed and during the day when I think about it. My upper back is definitely stronger now and my posture better. This works towards keeping you upright as you age too - many older people ( and younger too) slouch. The problem is muscular and arises from us bending forward -as over the computer, too much so the muscles in the front get shorter and the ones on the back get strained. Thus the solution is the strengthen the nack ones.. Anything else just masks the problem. Pain is the signal that you need to do something about it.
That's the scoop from doctor jo for this morning lol!

sdpeg - wonderful warm exchange with your mum - sometimes dealing with the sh*t in our lives brings benefits

oh - and mother at 99 has several deteriorated discs but her "muscle corset" is so good they don't bother her - good muscle tome everywhere pays off everytime -she is a physiotherapist
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Cmag, I am sorry to hear you and your wife are having so many problems health wise.... extra prayers for you today.....but at leasty your boys will be home and that is such a great thing, family..... hugs to you today cmag, but not on your sore neck....
Prayers for SDPeg's mom........
more later, gotta go to work...
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seemeride, I would go back to the Chiro, but after 4 weeks it is in worse shape. My skull hurt again last night when I laid down. Oh, the rainy weather bothers my wife's fibromyalgia. Can't win. :( At least the roof did not leak this time! :)

I hope everyone has a good a day as possible!
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Tpeg.....glad we could make your life a little brighter and we will be here for you if/when you come back. You could check in every now and then, but we are so glad you hve a job that we will understand. Blessings to you this Thanksgiving season.

SDPeg......(!) Who would have thought that a stopped up toilet would lead to such a warm blessing? And a good cry on top of it.....for both of you.......a nice cleansing experience. Almost makes you glad to have had the problem!!! My mom's saddest moments were when she couldn't control her bowels. But with poop everywhere, (I kept reminding her that any mess she made could be cleaned up) I would laugh about her eye color (aren't your eyes green, not brown), where is all this COMING from?.......Yes, it would take another hour to clean up the mess and sanitize things, and once it was tons of laundry from changing PJ's 5 times one night, sheets, towels, but she relaxed when I didn't flip out and I took out my aggravation here!!

Cmag....I was going to suggest a chiro.....love 'em.......my skull pain comes from the muscles running up my neck, and muscle relaxers would be an option......no, none of those at my 'lemonade' stand.....maybe also ibuprofen for inflammation.....bound to be some of that.......hope today's rain doesn't add to your or your wife's discomfort.

Turkey has to come out of the frig today, need to get some other things done, so will check back later.....

OH, for those of you who may not know......if you would like to get rid of notifications, please click on your profile, then click on "settings" under your picture/avatar and answer the questions that pop up. Hope that helps...........
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seemeride, due to a storm, my son's plane was delayed an hour which got us home very late and I'm unwinding from a long night. My wife's pain is waiting for the pain treatments. I don't know what is going on with my neck and head, but the back of my skull near my neck hurt so bad Sunday night that I could hardly sleep. I might have strained my neck putting a glob back up on the kitchen ceiling light and my dog pulls so hard when walking that it hurts my shoulder. I've had my chiropractor working on my stiff neck, but this pain in my skull is new. My therapist thinks that I might need a muscle relaxer for my neck and shoulder muscles.
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Peggy in Tucson: I will miss you. I am glad you have a job. That's great! I know how difficult it is to find those these days. I am glad Rex is doing well. The best to you and have a great holiday!
This morning as i was leaving for school I realized my mom's toilet was stopped up. Darn toilet paper!!! Yep, waaaaay too much mixed with other things I am sure you know what I am talking about. There was nothing I could do this morning as I ran out but thought about that problem most of the day. Tonight I prepared dinner for my mom and took care of the problem (no details, too yucky). Then I broke down. I got so mad at the concept of the brain being taken away from a person. I cried and cried. I even told my Mom I was mad at God for taking my Dad last year and obviously taking my mom's brain this year. That was too much for me to handle.Then my mom went to her room and closed the door. After a while I checked on her, she was in bed in underwear and shirt ... not pajamas. As I coaxed her into putting pajamas on she and I had a good cry and conversation. She blessed me with telling me that she realizes how frustrated I am with her cognitive decline because she remembers how frustrated and angry she was when her mother was "like this". Talk about a blessing. She gifted me with empathy. Through more tears and talk, she has agreed to "check out" the local senior center (I mentioned this two months ago in a post, her doc suggested she go) and she has almost agreed that after the first of the year, she would go once a week while I am in school. Although we cried and cried, sharing empathy through hugs was the best part of the night.
I still feel frustrated but that's human. I know she honestly does not remember how to dress herself so I will budget my time so she is dressed before I leave the house (unlike this morning when I was running late but she seemingly did ok and put on the clothes I laid out for her). She told me honestly that she does not know how to make a cup of coffee all the time. "Sometimes I do" she said.
I will work on my frustration level but what a blessing it was to hear that she understood how I was feeling and then she kissed me and thanked me for all I am doing for her. No greater gift than that.
The topic: how am I doing? Worn out from crying but it was worth it. So a stopped up toilet was the last straw of my patience but it opened the door to a conversation between mother and daughter that only we could share. Thank you for being my friends ~ without this continued thread I would have lost my mind a long time ago.
And if anyone would like to find humor in finding empathy through crap ... please do, I can't think right now.
Sending love and hugs and my gratefulness for all of you.
SDPeg
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bye for now peggy - hope yu muma dn dad are doing reasonably well too
congrats on the new job - every little bit helps
Good luck and come back and visit!
Blessings
Jo
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Hello Caregivers, I'm just going to post a quick note. I am taking myself off the notifications list. my email box has 410 new emails. I had a full day function Saturday, and got a job when I got home that night. It is an at home job, sewing patches on uniform shirts. REX is still doing great, I don't believe he can live on his own, but that remains to be seen. He still has a couple more antibiotic pills to take. Then it is a waiting game to see if the c-diff returns. It should not return, he has been taking probiotics, to repopulate his good intestinal flora. I appreciate the support everyone here has given me when I truly needed advice. If Rex, my F-i-L does get ill again, I will return. I have not had spare time to read posts. I have not had time to play on FaceBook(that is a good thing)! The best is the timing of the new money to come into our household. I have a lot to be Thankful for this Thanksgiving. God Bless all of you. Farewell for now, Peggy in Tucson. hugs
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