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Peg of San Diego, please read my message on your wall-
Peg of Arizona, Burned in, I am sorry you are having such a difficult period. I am lucky right now with my mother, we have sort of a peaceful routine that I hope will last for a while. I don't have the illusion it will last forever.
ASG, I think that many years ago, too, there were peaceful deaths and long exhausting deaths.. People talked less about it, I think. People talked less "in general". People died when they were younger, but if they had a bad disease they had a lot of pain, too. Maybe, a long time ago, things went a little bit faster because there weren't the treatments and the medicines that exist today... I agree with Ladee, I won't do it for myself, and as soon as I see something is really wrong I don't think I will cling to life just to prolong it a few years or a few months.
Ladee I am sorry, problems again with your son?
Kuli has lost her father several hours ago... If you know her, maybe you want to tell her something.
Goodnight
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Hi all: I have read all the supportive posts regarding my drama with my car/brother. I deeply appreciate all the input. Truly I do. And if I don't respond right away, let's blame my cell phone for that.
Before I "updated" a few websites I was able to read and respond to the posts on this site, I guess I have to do something in order to take the block off that has disabled me to do so. I love reading these posts while in between classes or at lunch while at school. I have grown to care for many, many if not almost all of you that I have gotten to know. I will have to take time to figure out what glitch the updating caused.
I have said this before and I will say it again: we are all in the same boat so let's keep rowing together and always remember to wear our life jackets!!!
Love across the miles,
SDPeg
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I think I am the one that needs the "stupid pill' since I fall for his shit time and again... felt something in me break tonight.... I will change this situation for myself, I am NO ONE'S victim, not even him....
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Jam...he he he not this time. Just really sad for my grandfathers suffering. Peg I have saw my grandfather after heart surgery more than a couple of times. Its scary. Ladee, sorry you are having trouble with your son. With all these medical miracles they are coming up with, I'm pissed they haven't come up with a stupid pill(not saying your son is, I don't know the situation). All they seem to have is pills to give us to calm us down;) what ever happened to preventative medicine?
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Jam we didn't do a POA, but it will be discussed in time. He is still able to keep track of his bills, on a house that sits empty. But he intends to return. Bully just sent another email, and OMG he has totally lost his mind. He says he will never talk to us again. He is trying to get me to send back a more explosive email and sink to his low level. Ain't gonna happen. I will print out for "his"dad to see. but i really hate to involve the old man. but his first born son, is a bully.
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Asg, I know where you are coming from with the thoughts you are having.... I sometimes wonder if "modern medicine' is a good thing.... yes there are many wonderful breakththrus but sometime shouldn't we just let the elderly body do what it is supposed to do...... The understanding of Alz, much less a cure will not come for many generations.... not doing us any good at all right now..... and then there are people like us who take care of the elders to keep them out of NH's that are no place to put your dog much less a human being...... and yes, there are wonderful places for the elders, if we could afford it...... I have always said if I get really sick, take me to the vet and have me put to sleep..... I do not want Dr's playing' wonder what this is" on me.... or let's give her this or that to see what happens.... I did not get this far in life to be a damned science experiment...... oh and by the way, I am very very upset with my son tonight...... and have some tough choices to make..... I resent the piss out of the position I have gotten myself into with him..... and just for this evening, any one crossing my path looking for some sh** is going to find more than they bargained for..... I am so tired.... and time for some major changes....... IT IS MY TURN NOW....
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Ladeeda, thanks I needed the boost. Your Right, thanks. Allshesgot- yep I question all our medical advances...quality of life? The story of your grandma- sounds like what my F-i-L saw with his mother in law, cancer, heart surgery and painful prolonged suffering. He will not have heart surgery, it's in his living will.
Rex is my hubby's dad. I call him dad. My folks live in Mass, my dad is my mother's primary caregiver, my younger sister lives with them, and does her part as well. I know. I have two other siblings that all check in with them weekly. I'm here they are there. I left after high school and have been 'away' since. It was not ideal growing up, but all has been forgiven, he was beaten as a kid and I have forgiven him for his poor parenting choices. He has redeemed himself with taking care of mom. I will see if he is aware of the shoes, i love the idea. again thank you everyone for being here and caring so much for all of us.
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ASG........are you wishing or what? Sorry sweetie, that one slipped out, it's been a strange day. I guess I would have to say that none of us know the answer to that question. We are born with a plan already in place and only God can say when we will take our final breath. Some elderly people die in their sleep, chances are if an autopsy were done it would find perhaps a cardiac event, but in most instances no one bothers with that in the elderly. I've seen people sit down in a chair to watch tv and they are found there later, pulseless and non-breathing. Several years ago, I heard of an elderly woman who was seen in the ER for something like a cold. Sent home and found several hours later, dead from a cough drop that was caught in her throat. Was it her time to go? If she hadn't put that thing in her mouth would she have lived longer? Who knows? My mom became ill on a Friday, aspiration pneumonia, and passed away the next Wed morning, not really sudden, but it wasn't a lingering painful disease either. What's on your mind tonight?

burned.....I hope you can get things straight with your landlord. I don't know the laws in your state, but I would think it would be illegal to evict someone with health problems such as your husband is suffering from. Do you qualify for subsidized housing? Here it is called Section 8, don't know about elsewhere. I hope things settle down for you soon.

Pegly.....does anyone have POA for Fil or is he still responsible for himself? Tell bully bro to come get him, you will have his bags packed. You shouldn't have to put up with strong-armed tactics from anyone. If he doesn't want to do that and FIL doesn't want to go, then just stand up to big mouth and tell him to keep it shut. It really irritates me how many people are held hostage by big bags of hot air that don't want to do anything more than run their mouths. Okay, I'm climbing down off my soapbox now. It's been a tough day of doing nothing. Talked with the col earlier and she is doing great. Played Bingo this morning, today was "Ice cream social day", she sounded happy. Told us not to bring pictures to put on her walls because she won't be there that long......surprise!!!!!!

Hope everyone has a good evening......

Love and Hugz to all,
Jam
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On a diffrent note, peghubba did you see on the news they have developed shoes with gps in them, just for people like your mom, who becomes paranoid and hids their id tag.
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What happened to people getting really old and just peacfully going in their sleep? It seems like, now they have to deal with alzhiemers, renal failures, heart failures, cancers other odd forms of dementia, extended hospitals stays,painful treatments. Sorry to sound so depresssing. But when I was a kid we would just get a call in the middle of the night or early morning when an eldr would pass on.
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seriously, that sounds like a strange thought, but my poor grandfather has gone through hell and back with heart disease, my whole life. The poor guy has suffered and suffered. They told us a few years ago nothing they could do and we have been soooo blessed to have him still around for all these years. Last year his heat stopped in a public place, a lady who meant well didn't know of his health conditions did cpr...we were glad we go him again for the holidays another birthday. A couple months ago he became real ill, was taken to the hospital multiple times. They said we can't help him get hospice. He refused. He can't walk anymore, smothers all the time. Hurts all the time. Has broken ribs from the cpr that didn't heal well. He is in so much pain and suffering, he was a hard worker and is in so much distress from not being able to do anything. Its so sad. My grandmother died of cancer, but before s
She died they butchered her up trying to fix her. Caused her so much pain and probably lessened the time we had with her. She was in her late 80s. Don't ask me why I am thinking on this tonight, my heart is just heavy for my grandpa. It was so sad seeing him this way. Its even sadden seeing it go on. They say he will just die suddenly at any moment. I can't imagine.
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Cmag, no, you didn't talk too much about cars......it's just great to know I have a 'go to guy' now ..... I have no one to help me understand these things, so if I were having problems I feel I could ask you questions, and not be taken advantage of by a mechanic..... so thanks for the input.... I personally am glad you shared your knowledge.....
TPeg, well , sometimes the hornets needs to be bothered.... you have a right to express yourself about the situation... and the fact your mom is not doing well, and you are taking care of fil, well, is he your step fil???? Am happy to hear you are stating your feelings.... no one can read our mind...... and maybe it is time for him to go home.... and bully brother, well let them come do a welfare check, then they will know bully brother is crying 'wolf'...... I hate it for you that things have to get so messy, but maybe this will be a blessing in disguise..... no matter the outcome, you got to have your feelings.... so proud of you for taking a stick to the hornets nest... nothing changes unless something changes... so let us know what happens.... and be proud of yourself for standing up for what you believe.... hugs to you...
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Do most very elderly people die suddenly or do they have to go through some long painful disease?
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I stirred up the hornets nest here today. Monday F-i-L says he is going to be ready to go hunting nov 11. I got worried, concerned, and ready to send him home, if he is ready to go hunting he must be ready to go home. I thought on this and stressed about how it was going to happen, because we are still waiting to see the "letter" bully brother threatened to write in his last email 9/15. never saw a letter through U.S. mail. I assumed sweet sis had brought it with her. well, f-i-l didn't know bully brother had said he was coming to take "his" dad hunitng. I gave Rex a 2 page written statement of how i fell things should go now that he is eady to go hunting. Well, my hubby doesn't want dad to go hunting, because the antibiotics are still being phased out, and going out hunting will put undue stress on dad, and could cause his weak body to become ill again. I think he is recovering fully and can go home and i said so in my letter to him. Well, i asked if he wanted to try to talk to Bully on the phone and he said, well yeah, and sooner would be better than later. so i dialed the phone and went outside this morning with my hubby, so he could have full privacy. Bully brother has total distrust of us and has sent a new litiany of insults our way today- via email, because of the phone call. I need to add the F-i-L is profoundly deaf, even with his hearing aids. And bully thinks it is suspicious that dad can hear other people on the phone, but not him.

I certianly stirred up things, but Dad has decieded to not go hunting. And told Bully this much on the phone. Bully even threatened to send the police to do a welfare check on "his" dad. Please send them. We are not holding him here against his will, and that he chooses to stay with us over the option to go to bully's house, says volumes as well.

On the home front, I called my dad to see how my mom is, ALZ. and she has taken to wondering off, and also disposing of her id tag. She wasn't able to pass urine and her lower back hurt. So I was really worring about her as well. I talked with him again this morning, she was able to give the doctor a sample and the pain had gone by that time. she is on Cipro and will remain so for 10 days, and then start another lower grade antibiotic. He has really gone through alot with taking care of her. He still has a sense of humor, saying it could be worse, one of the neighbors had ALZ and she used to take her clothes off and going walking up the streets of town.

Burned, I wish I could say something that would help. Your landlord is scum, he shouldn't be able to change your lease in the middle of health crisis. Is there any free legal aid in your area?

SDPeg, oh honey, your mom will help you, your car is necessary. Bully bro can take a hike.

I leave my FB on all day too, it's a bad habit. darn FB games, addictive.
Cmag thanks.
Stormy, hugs
everyone else here, lots of love.
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hey all it has been crazy here for a good while and hubby is still about the same. We had a pastor over here to help hubby find some peace and know that god has forgiven him. He still overeacts to small things and I got my job straighten out so now I do have hrs besides my other caregiver help coming to help me. I on the other hand is developing chronic tension headaches/migraines and the neuro doesnt want to mix drugs so he still hasnt give me anything for it but my doc gave me ibruprofen 800 mgs worth to take 3 times a day. I can't tolerate the screaming and the arguing anymore. Then I have my sister in law crying is woe is me and do not abandon me. Her exhusband wants her out of the house but this woman refuses to do anything to help herself but she is fighting for her ssdi. I am not taking care of that woman either. How is there a way I can get the landlord to make a new lease agreement. He is wanting nearly all my husband ssdi and that leaves me nothing to pay bills barely or he is asking for 7,200 when i am trying to save money. I already parted with nearly brand new 07 chevy malibu for this house were in. Yet he doesn't have the nerve to sit down and negotiate new lease terms. I only get paid every 2 wks and waiting for my case manager to do new assessment to get more hours. Every night my husband sleep apnea is getting worse and he wakes up wheezing sometimes confused. He also losing some long term and short term memory function. Yet my landlord thinks we got money to blow when it seems to me he is being discriminatory and taking advantage of disabled spouse. I am in charge of all family finances. I am tired of ppl saying they understand then refuse to understand...they do not live here...they do not raise my kids nor see what i go thru to take care of those I love. I am barely lucky to get paid to looking after him. I need to get a nap before i cook dinner and begin my evening shift when the kids go to bed. He has lost his temper some and cussing more which he has never done and falling asleep on the toilet. I still havent seen a shower seat or bathroom rails for him. I havent seen a cpap machine for him also and he needs one for night time but he cant handle travel and if i even given this other pulmonlogist a shot besides reschedule a seziure test there is no guarantee. He is also been feverish and yet clammy n cool to the touch. I know its part of the tension and I still see my therapist but i am tired of feeling anger and helpless about everything...how do i get my landlord understand I have less than 1000 to work with per month and i still have to pay utilities on the house. I love my family and I will do everything I can...I just can't believe he is threatening us with smaller place which is no good for access of the power chair and /or eviction but there is no other place to go too....everything is rented out...how much more can I go thru this please pray for peace and strength for my family...also pray that I have the will power to win the negotiate with the landlord come rent time and establishing a new lease or else were homeless or worse...i can't believe how compassion just dies in some ppl and then the ugly comes back only for the fake sympathy comes for a visit only to bum what is not theirs. I so want to get out of here..email me or fb under poet2write at yahoo.com btw if i do not recognise ya from this site i am sorry i just do not add ppl i do not know so give me indication of who u are and ill add u to either:) ty n god bless n peace off to take a nap ty.
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SDPeg, I tell you what I think, even if you never reply to what I say... I agree with Cmag and Jam, if a car makes you spend too much money, it is time to change the car.
Stormy oh my God never a moment of peace, poor dear! I really hope some peace arrives in your family.
Ladee thanks for your messages on Facebook. I'll write you there, later!
'Night everybody
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Thank you for the strength to do that. I have the habit of ignoring people that bug me and not answer but I want to speak up and saying something this time. I also would love for my mom to start to keep secrets but that's never going to happen. So I will change me and speak up. This group is good for me in that regard. I haven't really spoken up and told people it's none of their business but I can make that change in my life. Thanks SDPeg
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SDPeg.....I see now from your last post, that your brother doesn't have to be involved at all. So why worry? If he questions you, just tell him it's none of his business, that's it.
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Jam: I love how you think!!! Thanks! Hugs SDPeg
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My question would be first, will Mom have to do the asking? If so, then there shouldn't be a problem, since it's her money and I don't think she would owe your brother any kind of explanation. And the repayment agreement would be between mom and yourself. And if brother wants to give you grief over it, just tell him "fine, I will have mom's things packed up and ready for you to come pick her up. I have to have a way to take her shopping, to dr appts, etc and without a car I can't do it." He'll probably hand over the money faster than you can say "butt out". Then after you have money in hand, tell him to kiss off. He sounds like such a big bully, don't let him intimidate you, stand up to him, and I bet you will see him back off. Most people like that are just big bags of hot air and can be deflated very easily. Let us know when you've kicked some behind....:)
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Hi, thanks for the input.
He "sees" all transactions because he has all of her accounts online.
What SHE does with HER money is HER business.
For instance, today, she has very little cash in her wallet and caregiver and mom will probably go to the bank to withdraw. Once brother sees withdrawal he questions my mom on what that withdrawal is for seeing as he has most of her bills paid online as well. So it is more so noticing the withdrawal, questioning my mom about each and every withdrawal, and she answers him. She does not keep secrets from him at all.
So she could lend a dozen people money without his immediate knowledge or consent legally but it is more so the stress of the questioning etc etc that I am focusing on.
Or maybe I won't focus on that today and just enjoy my class this morning, counseling this afternoon and meditation group later this afternoon. Then if and when he questions ME I will tell him "that's between me and mom". Maybe I could leave out "none of your business" ha ha
Actually if you think about it, the stress is between him and my mom and not me at all. I am just a borrower and that does not involve him at all.
This group is not only great for suggestions and input but great for the brain while trying to process some things.
Thanks!!!
SDPeg
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sdpeg - that was my immediate thought - it is none of his business - now he may say that he is in charge of the finances so it is his business. Would he refuse to do the transaction on the basis that he is looking after your mum's best interests? I guess what I am saying is tread lightly - and since he is your mum's agent with regard to her money, he probably has the right to see that any such agreement ensures that she is repayed. This really puts you in a difficult position considering his personality. I don't see how your mum could lend you the money without him finding out, if he has charge of the finances. Guess I am confused about that.
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Hi, sorry if my last post sounded like I was more concerned about whether or not these repairs on my car were necessary. I was so tired and "spent" as we know we all get. My dilemma more so than the cost of the car repairs is how to respond to judgmental brother who does manager and control my mom's finances which is from whom I would need to borrow money. I totally trust this mechanic and what he said made sense based on what I know I have or have not done to the vehicle for preventive medicine, shall we say. The details however are this is a 2003 Hyundia Accent, 5 speed manual transmission with 111,000+ miles (this is within the average for CA for this age car). I haven't had a car with this many miles and therefore didn't keep some maintenance other than oil change done (belts and the like? Never gave them any thought.) But like a human body, a physical of a vehicle should be done regularly. In the past I traded a car with high mileage in for a new car; haven't been able to afford that this time around. And I have been distracted with sick and dying dad and now needy mom to remember to put my car first. The cost of my tranny repair included not only the tranny but other things as well that definitely needed being done. So that expense I am ok with.
My dilemma is how to deal with judgmental brother.
WE ALL have these siblings that really need to hear "this is none of your business so butt out" and seriously this is where I am at today ... tell him to mind his own business and how and when I repay mom is between her and me. It's these siblings that add stress rather than the repair cost itself.
Maybe I have answered my own dilemma ... so this post I am asking for prayers to be strong enough and bold enough to say "butt out".
Thanks for your input. Thanks for listening.
SDPeg
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Good Morning Posse!

It's dark and gloomy, a little rainy, sitting here with a cup of coffee and wondering what I am going to do today since I don't have to fire up the camera and check in on the col and I read CMag's last post and I just want to thank you! Reading what you wrote about feeling calmer instantly gave me a feeling of peace and a sense that today will be a very good day.

Shawna......I saw last night that you had tried to talk to me on FB............never fear, I am not ignoring you! I have a bad habit of being there and getting up to do something else and it may be hours before I get back. By the way, I loved the pic of mom scooping out that pumpkins innards..............

SDPeg.......I agree with CMag on your car. Get a second opinion before you start pouring money into a lost cause. A couple of yrs ago we were having trouble with our car and no one would touch a Cadillac, said we had to take it to a dealer, well there isn't one close. The place that does all of our glass repair sent us to a garage, he immediately diagnosed the problem and repaired everything except the heat for the driver's seat....thought there was a short in the wire, so we said no problem. As long as I have the heat on my side we're okay.....:) And he also helped another friend who thought she was looking at thousands of dollars in repairs, he told her to give him a day to look up the error code she was getting, and it turned out the fix was a fuse. Even though you are friends with your mechanic, a second opinion might save you a lot of money.

stormy.........Stomach acid is what makes the blood look like coffee grounds.

I will check back a little later after I have read everyone's posts.

Love and Hugz to all,
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I hope we don't get into too much 'car talk.' :)

BTW, yesterday was a good turning point in my life as pertaining to 6 years of therapy with a 2 year focus on a certain person in my family of origin to whom I wrote a letter, (not to be mailed), expressing my anger and pain which I read to my therapist. My therapist said, I had finally gotten totally in touch with my anger and asked what I wanted to do with the letter. I told him that I wanted to burn it. We had enough time to go outside, burn the letter, pray a prayer of release of all that pain, anger, guilt, shame, homicidal thinking, etc. as it finished burning in the can and then concluded by casting the ashes of the letter into the wind. I feel free and much calmer. Come what may today, this is how I'm doing today.
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CMag, sure hope you didn't open a can of worms for yourself with the 'car talk', we well all be asking questions now about how come my car is making that 'eek eek thump' sound....... glad you are here.... hugs to you
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$2,000 for a new transmission sounds high to me, but I don't know what kind of car you have. The check engine light has to do with how your car's emissions system is doing. Has the mechanic run the computer scanner on your car to see what codes it is saying that would help him identify what it is. It can be related to a blown head gasket which parts and labor is costly.

How old is this car? How many miles does it have on it? Are these the first really major repairs it has needed or has it been nickle and dimming you along the way? I ask that because to put $3,500-$5,000 into a car that is very old might now be as good an idea as spending a little more on a younger used car with lower miles. That's my opinion. If it is the head gasket and that is all you can do is to get that repaired, then get it done soon before the anti-freeze goes into your cylinders and costs you the entire engine.
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Hi all, I will read the posts later and please excuse me for not doing so and jumping right into what is bothering me tonight.
I do need opinions and I don't mind how differing they are.
6 weeks ago I spent almost $2000 on the transmission in my car. I was overjoyed to have that problem resolved. (Not so overjoyed to pay the bill however!!!)
Last night my check engine light went on and today the mechanic (not at the tranny shop) said it looks like the head gasket and gave me an estimate of between $1500 and $3000. What choice do I have? I need my car. We are out in the rural area and it is miles from everywhere!!! Ok, so much for justifying telling him to go ahead and figure out what needs to be done and he will call me along the way and yes I trust him (he is well known in this town and his wife is my mom's hairdresser so there is no reason not to trust him with his input on what needs to be done).
This is my problem: my brother, yep, here he is again in my thoughts and posts. He has his finger in my mom's financial pie. My mom offered to help me with the repairs (help in what form I do not know at this time because I was weeping ~ I cry when I am mad ~ and I didn't ask her to clarify) and I know my brother will find out (mom is a big mouth) and make negative comments. I already alerted my sister and her response is that it is my MOM"S money and the decision is between mom and me but we all know those bully siblings/family members.
There is no option: I have to borrow or receive the money. I welcome input about how to and what to say to this "Golden Boy" ... just because HE has money doesn't mean everyone else does.
And to ask mom to keep this between she and I ... she can't do that ... she is the town crier you know!!!
Thanks for listening ... needed to get all this out before I go to bed.
SDPeg
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Hey ya'll well I'm glad to know that i am not alone with the issue about the house being a mess. Because mine is, I try to keep it picked up but when you have a little one dragging toys out all the time it's almost impossible and he has alottttt of toyssssssss.........
Well me and sis carried dad to the dr today it was a scheduled appt for a check up on the throat stretch. Dr said that dads throat was more open this time that he went in and he was able to stretch it even more. So he is thinking maybe dad can go longer next time without having to get the stretch done every 6 to 7 weeks. But dad did tell him that he was still having trouble getting stuff down. So doc wants dad to have a barium swallow study done in nov to just swallow different textures of food to see what is going on. Then sis asked him about the coffee grounds in his feeding tube(we have only seen that once) but before she said anything to doc she said i told dad that it was probably coming from his surgery he had done on his throat. And doc said that yeah that is probably what it was. But all these stretches he has never had coffee grounds in his feeding tube. Oh well he is the doctor and i guess he knows what he is talking about.
Dad told sis the other day that he just didn't feel good and she asked him what was bothering him and he said i don't know i just don't feel good. Then today when we get back from the drs office i started cleaning dads neck because it is still sore and the left side is the one that has been bothering him more than the right. And i started looking and i swear that collarbone was swollen. And i started mashing on it and asking dad was it sore here and he said yes. Sis thinks that maybe the infection from his neck has gone to the collarbone. Stormy thinks that the cancer has gone to the collarbone. But i haven't told sis that.... Because she would just say nah it's probably just infection. Hell, I don't know what it is.
Then the other thing is brother has had this thing come up on his ear that has been there for about 2 months we thought it was a cyst(that's what it looked like) and it started getting bigger and getting more sore. Me and sis kept telling him to have it looked at and yesterday he saw the dermatologist and they cut it off and she told him that it looked like basal cell cancer. And she is sending it off and he will have the results next week. But i did read that,that kind rarely spreads lord i hope not. So please keep him in your prayers. He is so comical he said he told the doctor "why don't you just get a whole puncher and punch a hole in there and then i can wear a earring in there. Then the other thing he said about dad was, I told him that sis and i couldn't figure out why dad couldn't get full and he said i know why he said because all that food is going into his lungs. I said boy you are crazy!!!!! He has not done right by me and sis with helping out with dad, but we love him and he does keep us laughing because of his little remarks about everyone. And he is doing better going to church and getting involved in there and he has not had anything to drink in awhile and he has been trying to help out more with dad. Well better get to bed. Talk to ya'll tomorrow. Hugs stormyyyyyyyyyyy
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Ro, aren't you glad you are not THEM, I couldn't stand my life if I was always looking down my nose and judging...... and you are right.... they do not live in the real world.... and why don't THEY find a solution to the problem, they seem to be the only ones that see her shoes as a problem.... Too bad ugly sibs arent' like lemmings going over a cliff...... love ya Ro... take care of yourself....
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