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thanks ladies - u did it again - at least got a giggle out of me - think i am having a chronic fatigue relapse - who knows why - at least explains it - and i don't get such bad pain as i used to. - just informed Gary when we go to the bush he can drop me off at the nearest hotel and go do the outdoor tenting thing himself - I don't mind going to the a**end of nowhere as long as there is a hotel close by - it is not that I couldn't tent and I can sleep anywhere which is what I need to do at times like this but it is no holiday for me to cook 3 meals a day over the campfire, wash up in cold water, and get a cold a$$ siiting on rocks - and not be able to bathe for 4 days - oh did I mention the travelling all night - no stopping at motels along the way - that wastes time and money- good thing I can sleep sitting bolt upright on a truck! And i want a place with internet!!! He wants me to canoe down one of the side rivers here with him - up yours!!! I don't mind canoeing and used to be good at it but how about take a fishing line and sit there and enjoy the fresh air -- never mind fighting to get upstream in a river than neither of us has canoed on before. I told him I knew it would be exciting for him but it would be stressful for me - so maybe he had better go and find a younger woman to do these things with if he needed that - his face was quite a picture when I said that - he wants to take his son to the mountains - fine go do the tenting.canoeing thing with him - if we are going to holiday together - some of the time it has to be my way

ladee -fun is always between the ears - don't you really wonder what would have happened if you had started laughing at the sheriff - i hear u about ruth and only since May is not a long time - just coming out of the numb phase
seeme -awesome image lol
vic big hugs and hope you feel better soon
jam - look after your back - in more ways than one the col might sneak up on you
asg good to see u back and me too wating to hear about your new arrangement
stormy hope your baby is better and you got good info about some helpers
YR - hope u r OK
Linda - you are good - done well by her - noi need for guilt
starri - have u got the place locked up yet?
sweetcakes - we have all been in the pits - and it's no fun - and life looks hopeless; but it isn't and things will look up - and i know when u r in them that doesn't help much - know we care and have climbed out of the pits ourselves more than once - iI got rope burns to prove it
John hope you diet is going well
ros - Come sta?
anyone else hope u r good

love and hugs to everyone ♥♥♥ Joan
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That is a sad statement to our lives that the only fun we have is between our ears.... don't ya love it, thank God for imagination..... and yes Seeme, I see it too, but Jam is out standing under the sprinkler, you forgot about her..... and Target is driving the cols care down the path to the pond.... oh my sides hurt...
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I can't make that call just yet....I'm still laughing about her flying around the room (but I had her on a broom) and you trying to catch her with a pillow !!!HAHAHAHA And Marie was directing traffic from the couch and Sonny was laughing at the "bird".ooooooooooooohhhh it hurts..................
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ladee.....tag you're it!!!!!!!!!!!! Send some rain up here.......my water bill is going to be horrible I say, just horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Of course we probably spent an extra 2 cents when the col was out playing in the sprinkler and soaking water in her shirt and pants and hair........
seeme....made that call yet....would ya huh? huh? My back is killing me....hasn't hurt this bad since the day I injured it and had to quit work. And of course, for those of you who have migraines, you know that feeling when the knife that has been stabbing your temple for hours starts to pull itself out? Almost better than an or***m.............ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Heather had better have a kid sitter Wednesday. Of course I did learn today that it is not wise to allow the col to miss one single dose of her meds, even though she told us she took them, walking from the shelf they are on to her table she forgot all about them. That's why she was flying laps around her living room on her broom today. I couldn't catch her long enough to grab a pillow................

Gotta go watch "The Closer"....will check back in later.

Love and Hugz to all of you,
Jam
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Evenin' ya'll....... Jam we actually got a tiny bit of rain today... I was driving home from work when it started, do ya'll have any idea how many months it has been since I have driven in rain,,, I was skeered!!!! And I do believe I need new wipers, think the ones on there now have dry rotted.....But God did that rain smell good... soothing to my soul...
Vic, sorry to hear you are still so wiped out, caregiving will do that to us, no matter how many days we're gone, no matter how much sleep we get, we just hit a wall at some point and don't know when it happened, all we know is we are TIRED...so hope you feel better soon...
Linda, you will do great with this news to your mom... of course you are anxious, that just means you really care about the outcome...you don't want her to be too upset, yet after 10 years, it is way past time to reclaim your life... prayers sent your way for this endevour, and let us know how things went.... glad to see you here...
ASG, so good to hear from you!!! happy to hear you are trying something new with the family situation, let us hear the details... and congrats to the hubby for starting on his own,, prayers sent ya'lls way for success....
Jam, thought of this while reading your post, this is so dumb that I am looking for a place to live and you need a caregiver you can count on,,,, but nooooooooo, Ladee will not move from Texas.... is this false pride or what..... I think I would just let her set in the car and think she is driving, now make sure all the windows are not up, that is not safe, hehehehe, do you think they will let us "room" together at Seeme's Spa????
Seeme, I love what you said about reaching your limit, and anything after that blows the rest of it away.... that is such a great way to look at it... gonna remember that one..
Emjo, sorry you are still not feeling well. And we hope you laughing yesterday did not blow something loose!!!! I would loose my mind if it were not for the people on this thread..... laugh to keep from crying I guess....
Well, I do know this, If it were not for Sonny, I would have already found another job..Marie sets in her chair, delegates all day long, things that I already know to do, never sees the humor in anything, rants at Sonny for going to the bathroom, for putting napkins in his pocket, and REAL important stuff like that all day... geeez lady let up for a little while.... And yes some of it is because she doesn't feel good, but so much of it is because she is bored, will not get up and do anything while she is very capable of doing certain things.... and I have noticed when I come in on Mondays Sonny is very disoriented, easily confused, Guess I would be too if I had someone harping on me all weekend... She finds the stupidest things to complain about in regard to my work... today I just finally shot her a look that said, " do I look like a care" and she mellowed out a little... God, please let my friends know they can slap me if I get like that....just tell me to stop being so selfish and demanding, Lord it just makes the job so much harder... and yes, antlers did come to mind today...many times, but ya'll know me, I do laugh out loud at the most inopportune times...because I just see the world as this great big circus that we have all been invited to..... Like the other day when the sheriff came here looking for someone. You have to have the combination for the key pad to get in, so he goes under the fence. I called Mike and told him the SHURRIF was here.. well as the dude is walking the half acre to get to the house I waved my arm to let him know I was there, I was behind some lattice work at the back porch.. In a heartbeat he had his hand on his gun and was shining his flashlight in my direction.. keep in mind it is broad daylight.. and of course all I could think of was DON'T START LAUGHING, DON'T I TELL YA, JUST DON'T DO IT, he was a blustery and asking all sorts of questions, none of which I had the answer to, because I was concentrating on not laughing... Authority does not intimidate me, and this little Barney Fife was only making me go into hysterics in my head.... You can dress me up, you just can't make me behave... life is too short, laugh every chance you get... hugs across the miles to everyone..
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Hi everyone.....this would be the person who is a big meanie because I won't let the col drive, take her to Wal-Mart and make her put up with people who don't do a damn thing except sit on their butts all day. Especially since she is perfectly capable of doing everything on her own. This was after changing her wet undies, brushing her hair, washing her hands, putting away all of her food just purchased, cleaning the fridge shelf where she had laid a coke bottle on it's side with the lid partly off, throwing away the bag of flour that was soaked in coke, taking her trash and wet undies out to the big trash can, and before finding that she took her Prilosec only this morning, the rest of her meds were still in the container. We left her pouting on the couch after Target told her SHE WAS NOT GOING TO DRIVE HER CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whew! If looks could kill......................

Linda22.........don't allow yourself to feel guilty because the time has come to place Mom. Yes, I know, easier said than done. Try to look at it from the point that you are doing this to show her how much you love her and only want the best of care for her. There comes a time when you cannot give anymore of yourself without falling into that hole from whence there is no return. And then how much is your care worth? I have always said that the care giver's life should not be in the trash can, just to keep your loved one at home. Now, you will be happy, will be able to have a life with your husband and still be able to see Mom, all the while knowing she is getting the best care possible. I have to be honest and say I envy the freedom you will have......I don't wish anything bad on the col, but boy do I get tired of the sarcastic remarks, the stink of wet and poopy diapers, trying to keep her from harming herself.

I hope everyone else has had a good day.....emjo I'm sorry you still are not feeling well.
seeme.......I think you can probably make that phone call now.......I've got a killer headache and I would get free health care in your "spa".....:)

ladee.......hope the heat hasn't gotten you.

Will check back later...................

Love and Hugz,
Jam
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Linda, I know that the decision is a hard one, but for her and you both it is the best, I had to decide if I could keep mom at home for the last few days of her life, and I could not, there was no way I could give her the care that she needed.

Let us know how you are doing..
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hi all -still tired - think I must have blown a gasket laughing at the antler ideas -got some extra sleep this am and going back for more= feels like I am brewing yet another bug and need to conquer it early

on a good note the cottage is torn down per village instructions and 2 weeks ahead of deadline and the price is excellent - we plan on building and eventually living there so YEAH I will be 5 hrs closer to Texas! - and Italy.

sweetcakes starri ( ithink) said it - You do NOT have to sacrifce yourself and your life and hopes and dreams - this is a choice and being a woman you can change your mind - but let me tell you something I learned in life - if you stay there and try to get people to help they won't - you have to leave and create a vacumn and then someone will step in - like starri said if you were hit by a bus tomorrow someone would organize something for grama and grampa. It does NOT have to be you.

sweet heart you are entitled to all that life has to offer you
glad you had a good time with ur mum and sis - BLUE HAIR - love it - maybe I should try that - tired of white on white - thinking of low lights

everyone else - looks like that black hole has spread its ugly self all over north america today - yuck - will answer more after my next nap - think I know what's causing mine - freaki' ex - had enough of the lies - time for surgery I think - or antler theraoy lol - Ohhh that feels good!!!

luv and hugs to all ♥ Joan
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ASG....I am waiting with bated breath to hear the next story.............
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Linda22...know that you have done what you are capable of doing and you should have no regrets. The end. Easier said than done, I know, but when the max has been reached, anything additional will just blow the rest of it away. You don't want any resentment to be the last thing you remember, and it gets to resentment in a hurry. I have been doing this for 5 yrs and cannot imagine 10. My sister did it for 3 mos and only remembers the screaming and fights, and she is not over it after 5 yrs. Take care of yourself first, family second, and live your lives. Love and hugs.....
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Hey guys I'm here somwhere, been so busy with hubbys work. He is going out on his own and it has taken an extreme amount of work. Trying different avenus with the kids and lady in the same house and I think it may be working I hope. Wil explain later love you guys.
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I'm two days from Sis's arrival and us telling Mom we can't care for her in our homes anymore. Over ten years now. DH has been phenomenal but this weekend, he finally said, "enough" as I once again said we might not be able to go away with friends for a weekend because Mom can't be left home alone. While I believe this is best for all of our quality of life, my gut's in a knot.
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Seeme that exactly what we are missing..climbing on the mc and going down the road to places unknown... Been 3 years for us. We were even able to get away when the kids were little and growing oh well. Course unless we go north or northwest it is too hot to ride. Cant go anyway so why think about it. Hubby is a patient light in my life...God bless.
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I wonder if oatmeal and bread are good enough for jail time. Should I make a call, Jam? Want to get out of duty and give your back a rest at my spa???

Starri.....you are just a gem here. And I thank you so much for mentioning the melatonin, if I haven't told you before. Especially when the ER doctor and mom's personal doc both said it was fine and a good idea. And it does work......when I remember to give it to her. I forgot again last night, but Kathy gave it to her at 10:30, and she was up only 3 more times last night.

Vic.....I was wondering why we hadn't heard from you in a while. Glad you got away some. I know it is a bummer to have to go by yourself all the time. I'd love to get on the back of hubby's bike and just go for a ride, but that hasn't happened in 5 years now.

Emjo, As soon as I saw Joan Benoit I thought of the runner. I remember watching her win the marathon at the Olympics........you tell such good stories.

Missing ASG, Yearight, Johnnycares and all the rest. I am brain dead....gotta get lunch going and take something out for supper...later...................
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Good Morning Posse!

My day has started out crappy and I guess it can only go up from here. No part-time care giver today; my dil won't watch her kids and she can't find another sitter. And everyone else is busy. So I suppose I will take my back spasms and make them worse today.

starri......your dogs sound like mine. Little snots will run out the door, won't go down the deck stairs and then want right back in so I will give them a treat.....NOT! They have finally settled down and are sleeping. Guess this is my chance to take a shower and get to Wal-Mart. Col is out of bread and oatmeal.....that sounds terrible.....honestly we feed her real food....lol.

I hope everyone has a terrific day and I will check back later.....if I don't get moving I will still be sitting here at noon......

Love and Hugz to all,
Jam
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You know starri..i do do those things.. I read like crazy too. Anything to occupy my mind and heart. They do help but it just isnt enoug sometimes.
I pray Debbie that you dont give up! The black hole sucks! We have all been there. You know honey that you can walk away! Your mom or uncle would have to step in... It is not failure! You are strong or you wouldnt be there in the first place! I know where you r coming from and am not trying to give you advice just want you to know that all of us care very much even if you dont care rigt niw. We will hold you!
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Hi, Vic, good to see you again, I am sorry to hear that you are still having a rough time of it. Get away time is nice, have to do that myself every now and then, Give hubby a hug for me, and tell him thank you for being there for you.. that certainly helps. Mine has a tendency to be dense at times.

Anything your dads Dr. can do to help? A friend of mine has the signature, God gives you only what you can handle, I wish he didn't trust me so much..lol.. Feel the same way myself at times...

I don't believe it's a pity party, you have a lot going on and it can get to you at times, when you have a moment or two, sneak outside, sip a coffee or soda and just relax.. it helps.
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Hi all.. Have been seriously down these last days. Feel better today. Everything has just caught up with me! Hubby toldme to take off for a couple of days and i did. It helped to look a different scenery but i sure wanted him there with me and felt terrible most of the time. I went to the casino...how stupid! Lost my ass! Always feel guily about something! Still tired and body hurts simus crud is acting up terrible and i am smoking again like a little smokestack! Money is tighter than ever! Hubby leaves tomorrow for work...so the cycle starts all over. Funny how most friends (haha) disappear! Nothing much to say. The same situation, Thank God that my husband is my best friend and is willing to go through all this with me.
Dad is ok..he is sooo squirmy and cant even rest at night despite drugs. Wish i could make it better. Mom tank God right now is healthy enough... GOD only gives as much as you can handle but sometimes it seems soooo much! I dont even concentrate on prayer anymore! How stupid is that!
Well the pity party continues. I have to work harder to get throug it. The drugs i imagine are keeping me from total bottom...but wouldnt it be nice to be somewhere in a drug coma just for a few days...oh well wouldnt change anything.
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Morning Seeme, you just reminded me of what we kids use to do, we'd turn on the radio and crank it all the way up, and basically dance our chores away..lol.. I pity you having to wash everything, Mom was a serious pack rat, with a passion for cows.. you would not believe the amount of cow nic-nac's she had.

I was washing them prior to packing up, after about the 100th set of cow salt and pepper shakers I gave up.. let who ever gets them wash them..lol.. Good luck on the spring cleaning and I pray they say they can do the surgery.. I've been sweating my brother would get his eye surgery to remove the cataract's, he has a eye infection that is a recurrent infection, they would not do the surgery as long as it was currently active. Because of being pig headed and his memory issues, he would not do his ointment treatments to get rid of it, after a 6 hour ride to find out it wasn't gone, they finally got smart and gave him pills to take like I had asked them to in the first place, pills can be added to his pill box, he remembered to take his pills and on the 15th, had his surgery on the left eye, now we are waiting for the right, he might be able to see decently for the first time in years. Won't bring me back the brother I knew back when, but will make it a little safer for him to be left on his own.
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Debbie, sorry you feel that way. Sounds like you are in the black hole. I guess things didn't go well with your mom? I thought you were having fun when you told us about the kewl blue hair.....what happened? I really enjoyed all the antler chatter. I was tired cause I forgot to give mom her melatonin the night before and she had me up every hour to hr and a half. Then I tried to super clean the master bathroom and the 10 ft ceilings and mom yelling for me were almost my undoing. I almost broke the vent fan in the bath trying to get it down and hang on at the same time. I just couldn't bring myself to get on that 4th step. Hubby was working on his truck and I didn't want to bother him. Everytime I found myself on that 4th step of the ladder, I had to go to the bathroom. Kinda funny....

Not done in the bathroom, but Kathy wants to tackle the living/dining area. Won't get far with having to take everything out of 2 cabinets and washing it. I haven't had a spring/fall cleaning like this done in 5 years. Guess I'll get the jukebox going and we can really get some stuff done. Yea, it's a real Rock-ola that has 45's and nothing newer than 1958 in it. So I can Sam Cooke and Brooks Benton and Clarence Carter my way through those rooms.

Did I tell you we are now counting down ---only 3 days left to the doctor visit that will give us options on surgery.....or not. And this whole week is going to be at or near 100.

Hope everyone manages to stay cool and have a good day...............
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anyone want a dog? lol, those mutt's of mine seem to think that just going out on the deck and coming back in qualifies getting a treat, don't work that way, get off the deck, do your business, and then we will discuss a treat.

The cat will come in and insist on getting her treats, she'll eat if I escort her to her food bowl, and then she'll turn around and come in and start bugging me till I feed the dogs so that she can get in their food bowls, made her mad the other day, took and tossed her out of the house.

The two dogs will back out of their food bowls if she comes and sticks her head in there.. they cleaned out their food bowls when I had tossed her out, let her back in after they had finished and first thing she does is run for their bowls...bless her heart they were empty.. I got the evil eye for that one.

Hope that you all have peaceful easy days..
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Well he**, just lost my entire post. Deb, there is hope and you deserve to have a life, I'm going to share with you what has been shared with me, "What would they do if you were not there?" if you walked out the door today and got hit by a bus, what would they do? As much as we would like to think that we can not be lived without, the truth of the matter is we can be replaced...just like a job you get fired from or quit, they can hire someone new to take your place. We've been taught all our lives that if we do not take care of someone else, we are being self centered and selfish, we're not. We have to recognize our own limitations

There is a way to find someone to help you, it's just a matter of digging, till you find it, kinda like finding things on the computer, you have to find different ways of phrasing it till you find what you are looking for. First place to start was your mom, they are her parents. She chose to refuse, ok, now on to the next step, contact social services.. medicaid? medicare? one of them will pay for someone to come in and help you take care of them, I can't remember for the life of me which one, but I know that Mom was offered that care and didn't qualify as she didn't get which ever one that was the one that would pay for it, Does grampa or gramma get military benefits? if so, check with the VA about getting assistance, Help is out there, you just have to find out where to find the information.

I'm kinda like a pitbull on a bone, when it comes to somethings, like finding out information on what I am needing. Check with your local Churches, hospital, senior center, hospice, etc.. someone somewhere has the information you need.

I keep telling hubby that there is nothing in this world that is impossible, if it can be thought of, it can be done, might take a little while, but it can be done. Years ago, authors thought and wrote about space travel, and here we are today, been to the moon, building a space station and trying to figure out how to inhabit other planets. Eventually we will be living on other planets, maybe not in our life times, maybe not our children's, or theirs, but the human race will be living on another planet..

On to happier notes, Ladies you all crack me up, thanks for the laughs this morning, Jam, offer still stands, I will pay for shipping if you will make a u-tube.. Ladee, I love your sense of humor, warped kinda like mine. Do S.O's qualify for pillow therapy as well?

Debating on another cup of coffee or getting some laundry together and take to Mom's and do it there while I am working on getting more stuff packed up. Coffee I think wins out for now..
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Stormy when you get frustrated with your dad, just think about wearing those antlers and holding a pillow. You will start to smile and people will think you're crazy and will leave you alone. And who knows, maybe you could go to seeme's spa for a vacation......:)

Love ya,
Jam
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Life is a crock of sh*t. I wasted time having dreams, then I realized I'll never do the things people my age do, like have children. By the time I'm done here I'll be too old to have kids. Just a wasted life. I don't think I'm coming back here, people who need support are people who have hope and I have no reason to have any hope. Thanks for the friendships, even though they were short lived.
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really tired tonite - will be back tomorrow ♥
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Jam, OMG I am soo loving the pillow procedure. That is too funny!!!! LMAO!!!! You girls are so crazy.... (((((Hugs)))))
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Hi everyone. I'm so tired, but this time it's because I had too much fun. My mom and little sister came to visit, and my sis and I went to the county fair, then today, I permanently dyed her hair blue without telling anyone, lol. We also dyed half the house blue in the process. Lucky for me I got the dye cleaned off everything before Grama noticed. Her hair looks kewl too.
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emjo, there are things that will bring out things about Ruth that makes me miss her. I have noticed I have been talking about her more... she passed away in May, it hasn't been that long, and I did love that mean old lady... It was her family that caused me more stress than she did and she was a hand full, I still live in her house, hence trying to get out of here and on my own. But I can not go in her room. It smells like her and so many memories in that room....I shut the ac vents off in her room and bathroom, and have not been back in there since.... I hope that people don't think "paid" caregivers do not love some of their charges... no some things about some of them we don't like, but that is called life... but there has to be a heart set to be in this business and don't know on any given day if I was blessed or cursed... guess it depends on the day..... I do know that I am burnt out, had to go to work too soon after Ruth died... thank God Sonny is a dream to take care of, and most of the time I can ignore Marie's constant harping and complaining.. I can tell you if you weren't already a student of human nature, this job will make you one.. There are so many things "family" can say, do and get away with, that a paid caregiver would be fired for... always walking that fine line and staying professional takes it's toll just as being with a charge 24/7, which I was with Ruth....and still had to stay professional... I realized this week that I do need a break, a vacation, different scenery, and to not be stressed over money every single day.... so even if I could get off, I couldn't spend any money for fear I would not be able to pay my bills.... just a double edged sword sometimes.... but, I put my big girl panties on, put one foot in front of the other, and keep heading toward the future.. I can persevere if nothing else... and I am sorry still for the loss of your son... that will never go away, never.. so happy we could make you laugh a little today, that is my saving grace, seeing the humor in things..... hugs to you
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ladee it is strange that out of all these funnies and laughs you are feeling the missing of Ruth

several times the last few days i have laughed out loud for a while and then broke into tears over Gordie - and that is a good thing - they are there inside bottled up anyway

jam - you have done that to me a couple of times too

the freewheeling is definitely therapeutic and feeling one emotion tends to bring out others - or at least I am experiencing that - it is like a therapy session - laughter is such a great stress reliever and caregivers do experience a ton of stress and pain

(((((((hugs))))))
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Whatever would cause the most pain to the caregiver... yep, you're right....
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