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Carmen, I've been on lamictal and wellbutrin since 2003. Last fall, my psych increased my wellbutrin and added abilify. I'm also taking metformin, potassium, forosemide, singulair, flonase, nuvigil, and androgel. My endocrinologist also has me taking a multi-vitamin, extra vitamin D, calcium citrate with D, and to all of this mix, I've added omega three. Also, I sleep with a CPAP for my sleep apnea.

When my psych. put me on nuvigil back in February, I had the energy to get out and walk which I did as part of a walking program for 11 weeks. I started out at 30 minutes a few times a week and then worked my way up to an hour or two a day. I lost weight, etc.

But instead of feeling great about all of that, I felt burned out and now I'm in this pit. I tried going to bed at 11 and laid there for an hour trying to get to sleep, but could not. I feel tired and am yawning, but I can't get to sleep.

Sunday, like many days last week I've been sleeping for about 10 or so hours once I do get to sleep, but do not feel rested. Personally, I wonder if my doctor should not remove the lamictal from my medical cocktail and let abilify totally replace it?

I am glad that you understand where I am and not something one can just will themselves into being more active when one is in this drained, depressed state of being.
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Hi all, it's so nice once dad is in bed. I was lazy today, apart from jumping up and down after dad, I didn't do much. Sundays should be a day of rest.
Indyrose, bless your precious heart. Your sentence about your mom having no social life and you walking on eggshells could have been written by me!
Its "momma drama trama". My mom had some depression to, but I think she had BPD to but was never diagnosed because she never went to the dr.
I studied up on mental disorders trying to find out what was wrong with her and she just didn't fit any one mold. Oh well. I just work on myself now and try to heal from it all.
Starri, have a safe trip and try to enjoy your down time after the funeral. I wish it could be a real vacation for you.
Debbie, you can come cook for me to!!!!
cmag, sorry your haveing such a rough time.
Ladeeda and emjo, thanks for being here and emjo, you go girl on that horse handleing stuff!!!!!! your amazing!!
it's off to bed for me, tomorrow I have to cook for the whole brood. Nighty night to all of you; vic, rossella, and anyone else I forgot.
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Ladies, watch the news for a headline of "woman goes berserk and kills husband, over wrong information, almost costing them 935.00 in airline tickets"

I was booking my SIL her plane ticket this evening, asked hubby for her full name, he says "oh, just put Kathy" well you can't board a plane unless the name on the ticket matches what your passport or license says. Asked him for her birth date.

Gave me the wrong year, although she should have been flattered, as he made her two years younger than what she really is, and get this, he's on the phone with her, and says "I have" the information wrong, I'm like you "SOB", I didn't have the information wrong, YOU gave me the wrong information.

A lot of the airlines/online sites will not let you change information on the ticket, which will in turn make that ticket void and you will just have to eat the money, as it is now, the money they took out of my account for the first ticket, might be back in the account in 5 days. Plus they took out another 950.00 for the new one.

Told hubby that he had damned sure better have things right this time, if we have to book her another ticket, we were not going cause we could not afford the gas to get there.

Can I kill him? PLEASE? I already have a good place to bury him.
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Cmagnum, let me say welcome, I know exactly where you are, as I am a bipolar II as well, have you tried Lamictal? it has been absolutely wonderful for me, it's a mood stabilizer and brought me out of a deep dark hole of depression.

My Doctor and I (over at mental health) have added a antidepressant to the mix, Welbutrion, with all that I have and had going on in my life, the depression was trying it's best to sneak back in.

What other meds are you on?
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Debbie, happy to hear you are practicing detachment , it will help get thru the difficult times,, dinner sounded good, you will sleep good tonite... hugs to you
Starri, we will miss you, know that you will be in our thoughts and prayers and we will be waiting to hear from you...hugs
Vic, I don't know if we get mad at THEM or just the damned monotony of the caregiving... I know for me I get bored with the repetition and then I find myself getting edgy...I have referred to myself as Chatty Cathy Caregiver, just pull the string and I will say all the caregiving reminders...But you have a good attitude and it helps me to read your posts,,, hugs to you
Indy, I felt so much better when Sonny and I could walk everyday... it is too hot now for him, and I can't do it in the evenings as my leg is sore and tired by then... and still too hot... so can't wait for fall this year... we need rain and it is too hot, I'm getting cranky..... hugs across the miles to all of you...
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indy you are amazing - what a success story. I am thinking of getting a personal trainer, once I feel a bit better, to get myself back on track. I walked so much when I was teaching and don't now that I have I retired. Lordy! looking after one's self can be hard work ;) Need to be fit to wrangle those horses lol. Muscles can be strengthened at any age.
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ditto to what ladee said - the meds could well be part of it and hope they get sorted out. You have been through a lot sorting out taxes and sounds like you are anticipating two deaths which is not much fun. No matter how bad our relationship (s) dying and death are not easy to deal with. Once your mum and the others are gone, what do you want for yourself? or even now - before they are gone. (((((hugs)))) good to hear from you and hope you feel better soon - come back and vent
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John, I am sorry you are having such a bad time.. I can not say I understand , but I can be understanding...And it does sound like a mad mix up of meds.. Hopefully you will get to see your Dr. next week and start feeling better... am sending angels to help you thru until you can see your Dr... know that you are heard and that you matter. hugs across the miles to you...
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PS... I sleep like a rock! I didn't used to before I started an exercise program.
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Cmagnum, Have you tried getting into a regular exercise routine. I know it's counter-intuitive to exercise when you feel so down, but it really really helps. I started a walking program about 2 years ago, shortly after my parents moved in with us. I just got a cheap treadmill off of Craigslist, and just began. About 8 months ago, I started looking on line for other exercise programs that I could do in my basement. My husband can really tell the days I work out and when I don't.

It's not something you do for other people. It's care you give yourself. It really does work, if you just use it.

In two years, I've lost 35lbs without dieting, I've had a ball going through aerobics routines, walking routines, dancing, yoga, and martial arts -- and right now I'm working up to running 5K (about 3 miles). I got most of these DVDs from the public library and do them in my basement. I'm 53. Email me if you want to learn more. It really helps depression and coping!!
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Debbie that sounds wonderful! would you come cook for me... the milkshake!!! so glad you had a good day. I had a pretty decent day too. Although dad didn't seem to be feeling all that well today. He is anemic at the moment and we are working on getting red blood cells built back up. he is getting harder and harder to maneuver. Most times I can tell him to relax and it makes it easier to transfer and move him around. on another note he slips or slides down in whatever chair he is in. We really have to watch him! several occasions he has slid right on the floor. Well today at church he went to sleep and was almost out of his chair. had to get up during the homily and help him sit back up! then he did it again!... Course our treat or curse is to go out to eat after Mass. I dread it cause it is difficult to get him to places but both mom and dad enjoy and they don't get out much at all. Lunch was good basically uneventful. not too much food all over the place. back in the car and home...whew. the afternoon was pretty quiet, mom took a nap and dad was fairly comfortable in front of tv. bathroom runs weren't too bad today. Although he is itching like crazy. A combination of heat rash and fungus junk. I feel for him. Keep him as dry and itchy stuff on him as much as possible. They had a nice late afternoon watching "I love Lucy" reruns. Finally got him to bed, him and mom are saying their evening prayers. I pray he won't be too agitated tonight.
You know I have been so blessed with such great parents. My dad was always my best friend and even though mom and I didn't get along when I was growing up we are having a pretty good time now. I am so grateful for this time. I guess that is one reason I feel so guilty for getting frustrated and wanting time away and being short etc etc...
I feel like we won't have much more time with dad and I should be giving him all that I can and many times right now all I want to do is strangle him! All the begging to 'drink your water', 'keep your feet up', ' lets sit back up' and on and on and on....
ok I am rambling.... ((((HUGS)))) to all and pray everyone has a good night. :-)
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As took place back in January, I'm back in the pits again of never waking up from sleep feeling rested; not feeling like doing anything at all now that my mother and step-dad's delinquent taxes back to 2004 have been cleared up; wondering if my step-dad is going to die first since he is older, 85, and two weeks ago had congestive heart failure; wondering about my dad and step-mom since they are preparing to move to assisted living, plus the doctor has told her she has two years left to live because of her pulmonary fibrosis; and somewhat anxious about how long my mother and her money (which right now is a lot) will last, plus she turns 80 the end of this month and she predicts that she will not live past then; and sensing how little there is to do now that our youngest will go to college this year; and the nuvigil med my psych gave me that at first perked me up in February now no longer works. My mom is in a nursing home 1 hour away and my step-dad is taken to see her every day by his caretaker and I wanted to visit last week, but I didn't have the energy to do so. I saw my primary physician last week and he thinks with all of the prescriptions that I'm on that some sort of drug interaction is taking place, but did not give me any advice past that. I called my psych to let him know what is going on and did not hear back from him, but I think that I have an appointment this week. As far a personal care goes, I'm forgetting to brush my teeth and I'm only taking about one shower a week. However, I do remember to take my medicine. I have bipolar II which is the depressive kind with mild mania and this is one of my worst downward cycles. I about feel like my life has no purpose anymore. Thanks for listening to my venting.
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Well, my dear friends, I don't know that you will hear out of me before Sunday at least, maybe Monday, depends on how tired I am, when we get back, we just got confirmation on the funeral, we leave for CT in the morning, have to be there by Tuesday afternoon to get his sister from the airport, and from there I guess to the room that is reserved. They will be holding services on Thursday. Take care all, will check on you when we get back.
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Hey everyone:) There's tons of messages to read and I can't read them all lol. Yikes! I love you all, and I hope you're having a good day. If you're not having a good day, I care, and I hope it gets better. *hugs to everyone*

I had a good day. I worked all day, came home, cooked a delicious stirfry with all the yummy stir fry veggies and strips of beef that had been marinating in teryaki and soy sauce all night. I just ignored all the negativity and then made us all a milkshake! Yay! It was nice. Now I am just relaxing for awhile. I am whiped. No big ordeals today. :) Btw, sugar free vanilla ice cream blended with banana, peach and milk is freaking wonderful.
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Indy, how awesome. Rarely do you hear of Alz. making someone nicer.. How blessed you are...I have taken care of the worst of the worst, and now have the sweetest little guy in Texas.. I have never seen him aggressive, and he has the most awesome twinkly blue eyes... His wife says that other than the memory loss, he is the same... I have seen Ruth , my last client who has passed away, turn into a monster, full of hate and rage. The one before that was never happy, no matter what.
And emjo, I understood what you meant, because other than stories like Indy's, and my experience with Sonny, I hate this disease with a passion.... So Indy you are one of the few who get to have a positive experience with this... God bless you and God did see fit to give you your mom, even if you had to wait for many years...
And Starri to have a pic of your mom smiling... God does give us surprises now and again, and happy you were there to receive it.
I guess I give very little thought to who will be waiting for me on the other side.. I hope my mom is, I still miss her so much and it has been many years. And again emjo I am so sorry about your son, but he knows we still need you here. Need you in a good way, to be a part of this, to make some new friends, to laugh, he really does want you to laugh... and for us to know we will see your name on the thread and be happy you are here...
We still have places to leave our fingerprints ladies, so it won't be over until it is over... hugs across the miles to you all...
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Ind, it's wonderful that although you have to get these memories the way that you have, you have the chance now to get them.

does it surprise your dad, that your mom now gives it back to him? lol, I could just picture his face the first time she did that.

I have a picture of my Mom, laying in her hospital bed there at the house with the first smile that I have seen on her face in years. I am grateful for that memory.
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should qualify what I wrote - what a blessing that disease is in your mother's case - i know most often it is not a blessing - not at all
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((((((indyrose)))) that is absolutely AWESOME! You give me hope :). What a blessing that disease is - life is strange. Have a great day ♥
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Emjo, I never really had a mother-daughter relationship, either. If anything, though, I've got a better one NOW than when she didn't have Alz. While growing up, Mom always was severely depressed -- closed in her room crying a lot. Anything could set her off. She had no hobbies, no clubs, no one she hung out with. We kids walked on eggshells, trying not to upset her.

Alz has reduced her to a happy kid. (I count my blessings every time I read some of all the other trials going on!) We sing while giving her a shower, and make bathroom jokes (which she used to highly disapprove of), and commiserate about our husbands. Dad still teases her, and, where before she would have ran off to cry in her room, she now sends back barbs at him!! Or even tells him, "Shut up!" She has NEVER done that to my Dad before Alz!

Yes, it's robbed her of knowledge and awareness, but it has also relieved her of a lifetime of depression. I maybe I'm getting to see a side of my Mom I never knew.
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(((((rosella)))) - that you know your grand aunt will be there on the other side to greet you and with open arms touches my heart deeply. :'-o My "babes" my youngest, dead at 23, will be there for me and my aunt - can't wait in some ways but have to make the best of the time we have here. luv 'n hugs ♥
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Emio, our posts crossed. Wrangling horses? You are a great woman
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starri - have a great trip! You have earned it! glad your dh (dear husband) is supportive - my goodness you are a survivor!♥
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Emio, that's what I thought... Your mother can take care of herself!

Yeahright, you made a very beautiful and deep and true analysis of feelings that many of us have toward one of our parents (many times, toward the one we have to take care of. This makes things more difficult.)
I adored my grandmother's sister and if I had had to take care of "her", I would have done it with pleasure. With my mother, it is not as pleasant. My mother is not a bad person, not at all, but she has never been as loving and tender and "motherly" as my grand-aunt who practically raised me my first 3 years of life, when my mother preferred to hang out with her friends. And I am positive that my grand aunt will be the person who will wait for me when I go "to the other side"... I am not at least afraid because I know she will be here with open arms! This is the real love, I guess!
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YR - you hit the nail on the head when you said you wondered if your mum pushed your dad over the brink and that is why he is so demented now I have felt that about my dad - living with a BPD person who rages and rages at you for years or any such HAS to affect you. A few years before he died but was already deteriorating mentally he called me in tears and asked me to come down and help. I was 1/2 a continent away and with 3 little kids but managed a few days. I found mother totally enraged that he wasn't meeting her expectations (reminds me of how she is with me now) and took her for many long walks to get her out of the house and give him some peace while she ranted and raved. Fortunately she was working then and I had some quiet time with him. We were always close and yet it took him 3 days to open up - then it became apparent that he was not his old self and could not do what she wanted. I explained this to her (she is a physiotherapist and worked in a hospital and IMO should have recognized it) advised her on some business matters. She followed the advice which set her up well for her retirement and yet I was told off and that I had NOT been helpful. He had a few more years as good as they ever had and then to a nursing home. I think i have read somewhere that extended stress predisposes to Alz but i would have to check that out, My fil was dreadful - said anything - the rudest person I met and my mil developed Alz when she was older. makes you wonder. Hypercritical - that's it! I have been and am mourning the mother-daughter relationship I will never have. For my own health i have to put that one to bed so I can stay detached. The little girl inside still wants mothers approval. Good for you for taking such excellent care of your mum. I will not abandon my mum but what I can do now is limited by my health - not that she accepts those limitations. She is in the city she wants to be by her choice, a cousins' son is there, bless his heart, who visits her occasionally and helps in other ways, and there are other people who keep an eye on her. Nothing is ever enough but i am sure you know all about that one. I just can't travel as I did. My sister and mother were quite indignant when I managed few days holiday last year - though they take holidays when they feel like it. I "should" have been doing stuff for mother! Aaargh!
ladee -i understand - what would never be. I want to be past that point when mother dies - as much as possible. She could live another 10 years at the rate she is going and I am nearly 74. I look much younger and still can be active when I am healthier than I am now but that is a huge chunk of the time I may have left. the women live long on both sides of the family - into the 90's and keep pretty healthy. Mother will be the first one to break 100 if she makes it and she is aiming high, I am sure. Meanwhile we try to have lives of our own. I, for the first time in my life, briefly wrangled horses last winter and i want to learn to ride them again. (sig other - with amazed look on his face when I didn't now what to do when faced with run away horses "You mean to say you have never handled livestock???" - where would I have handled livestock? - in my backyard???) I have decided that I am getting past these illnesses and that's all there is too it! On that note time to bath, get presentable and get out of this house and get a little exercise.
Love and ((((((hugs))))) to all - I can so identify with so much of what you all write -yes ladee - we are human and thats OK - I like the "sometimes you are not OK and I am not OK but that's OK" ♥♥♥
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(((YR))) big hugs to you and to all here.. It's been tough over the years but we survived, and it seems all in tack. You would be proud of me, the eldest called while I was away in town, hubby God love him must have had on his glasses when the phone rang and he let it go to the machine, probably a good thing for the brother, hubby is absolutely sick about how I've been treated, worried to death of how high my stress levels have been over the past few months. He would have told the brother exactly how he felt..lol...

Glenn (hubby) has done that to my Mom a couple of times. I've always made it a point that if we were BBQ'ing or it's a holiday dinner or even a just because to invite her over, to the point of offering pick up service. She turned me down again one Christmas, after she had about broke her neck getting to one of the brothers for Thanksgiving. I started bawling, and hubby picked up the phone called her back and told her what was on his mind. She showed up a hour or so later. While dinner wasn't quite the way I wanted it, she at least showed that time.

I took myself a 2 or so hour nap, sorry for those that haven't been able too. I've woke up in a better frame of mind, feeling better, and while I am sorry for having to get out of here for the reason it is, I am looking forward to the getting out part.

Glenn doesn't know it yet, but we are taking a couple of extra days, either before or after the service, I believe it's going to have to be after, but that is ok..
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YR, that is exactly why I cried when my dad died, for what would never be... it amazes me still how many of us from so many different places, feel the same about so many things.. I am so blessed to have all you wonderful folks to share with... helps me feel human and accepted... hugs across the miles...
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good morning. Dad is up, fed and napping in his chair. It's peaceful here for the moment. And cooler. Windy and 98.
I sure can relate to you gals with the "dysfunctional" parents. My mom was something else. Still don't like to talk about it. But do understand the forgiving 70x7.
Thank God my poor little Dad is so sweet. He always had a very pleasant disposition. I really do think that my mom pushed him over the brink and that is a big part of why he is so demented now.
You know emjo, I thought to that I wouldn't shed a tear when she died. But I was really caught off guard when I mourned like a nut case at her death. She was always hyper critical of me and dumped guilt trips on me at all times; so of course I felt super guilty at her death.
I now realize that the mourning was for the mother/daughter relationship that would now never be. And I have worked through the guilt. I have come to the conclusion that I took wonderful care of her in spite of herself. I made sure she had the best medical care possible and everything she needed and most of what she wanted, (the little girl always trying to please}. And I insured that she had a peaceful death here in my home with hospice care. No more guilt trips, mother.
OK, enough of that.
Hope you all have a blessed day.
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hi rossell - love italy - spent a month there several lifetimes ago - thx - over all mother is healthier than I am at present. She lives in a seniors complex with only nursing aides but will tell anyone what she thinks, go to ER twice in a day if she feels like it, discharge herself from hospital if she wants to, and then complain to everyone how badly they all have treated her - she puts herself first and expects that everyone else will put her first too and that things will happen instantly - oh well! - have a good day
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Ladee, Good Morning to you.. I believe I have all the "stuff" that I want, and really if they don't have the same consideration for me as I have tried to have for them, piss on'em, they have to answer to God for their behavior, my side of the street is clean.

I figured the cow pattie was some kinda prize thing, but didn't know what you had to do to get one..lol... I appreciate the offer of going outside and getting me one, but around here, it's a matter of yards before you find one, just about everyone out here has either cows or horses in their yard..lol

Baby brother is wanting to go to town, he can't see for anything and has to have someone take him to town.. guess i will be nice and take him.. See ya'll in a bit, if I don't end up in jail for throwing him out of a moving car...rofl..
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hugs back at you ladee - totally understand the "dead thank God" response you had and also the feeling that there is one less fool to deal with - tough. I forgave and still do forgive mother - sometimes 70x7 in a day - the counsellor asked if i would have guilt when she goes and my answer is No not at all - done many extra miles and then some. I don't like the person my mother is either - there are a few things I can admire her for but many more things i find otherwise. The last straw this time was when she brought my son who was killed into the "argument" (she was arguing - I wasn't) in a negative way just to support one of her points. That's it -game over - out of here - can't handle that - I'm gone - and you princess can suck it up. I do have my limits.

starri - you got it right - I am caregiving myself too and need to - can relate to some of the stories I read here ...
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