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I don't know how to get over my homesickness and resentment. Those are two main things that are holding me back. It took me years to get the courage to go back to school. Now i'm in a completely unfamiliar place and my mom is worse off then she was, because of her stupid decision. We rarely leave the house. We both just sit in the house and mope all day, and it pisses me off because I feel like I lost the little bit of independence I did I have. I have to start alll over with school, and get used to a place I don't LIKE. My agoraphobia came back when we moved here. I still feel incredibly disoriented in this town.
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Can you tag people in these posts?

cmagnum you're absolutely right. I've always had problems letting go of the past. It's one of my biggest downfalls. If I don't catch myself NOW. I can see myself wasting ANOTHER 16 years of my life, and then I really will be up shits creek. I wish I knew just how to LET GO.

Pamzimmrrt, Yeah she retired a year ago. She was actually supposed to work until she was 62, but she was severely burnout from the job, and decided to take an early retirement. I know she's still so young! She finished working, she's been working since she was 17. She says she's content watching tv all day, but I told her she need other types of stimulation. Staying in the house all day watching tv is not healthy. Thats how it all started with gramps decline. I isolate to and I know it's not healthy for me either.

She initially wanted to move to move down south to Nashville, because we have family down there and she's obsessed with Elvis, but I did some research and found out they didn't expand medicaid to low income adults down there, which meant I wouldn't be able to get health insurance. I am SO glad I thought to look that up before we made a decision. Also we didn't wanna be that far from my younger brother. Allentown is only 2 hours outside of New York. He can just hop on a bus and stay every weekend. "Stick a pin in a map and hope for the best" That cracked me up lmao. Allentown does seem kinda random. We would've looked in new jersey, but my mom didn't wanna be in the same state as my father, so we chose the next closes state, which was PA.

Right now i'm on xanax 2mg, Remeron 45 mg and Hydroxyzine 150 mg. This regimen hasn't really been helping much, but I never really had the greatest luck with meds. I've been on and off meds since I was 17. I'm not the biggest fan of antidepressants and mood stabilizers, because a lot of them make me INCREDIBLY foggy headed and indifferent. I take remeron for sleep, and it works okay. I have this issue with sleeping at night though. I don't like to sleep when my mom's asleep. I get extremely paranoid when she's asleep, especially now that we sleep in separate rooms. I feel like I gotta be on alert mode and ready to go at night. Just in case anything happens.

I do kinda (ish) wanna learn, but i'm petrified. I think I have way too much anxiety to be on the road. They have a decent transit system here, and they do have a bus for disabled people, which my mom still hasn't applied for. She loves to drive, but with the nerve damage in her leg she not as confident as she used to be.
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Tati, you say your mother just retired a year ago, so she must be able to do something productive even with all these disablities and medical problems? She is only 59.. so maybe she can find something productive to do in her old type of job, even part time. That would free you up to go and finish that GED, and maybe learn to drive. It's alot easier to drive in Allentown than NY!! And you really sort of have to be able to drive if you don;t live in a city or have a driver/use cabs and Uber. She must have been able to leave her bedside comode if she worked... Is she stalling?
What made you all decide to move to Allentown of all places? It must have been more than prices. Do you all have friends or family there? Or did you just sort of stick a pin in the map and hope for the best? Ask those people for some help, or simply to visit. The damage is done on the home sale, so you really need to move past that and focus on the new future. I know it;s hard.. but you really are sort of stuck at this point. Just dwelling on the bad decision is not productive for either you or Mom. Good luck with this
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Tatianna,

Are you taking any meds for your depression and anxiety plus seeing a therapist?

It is good that you have the self-insight to see that codependency has you stuck which basically means you are having a hard time living as you apart from your mom. You are likely the only one at this time in life who can stop dancing the codependent dance. I doubt that your mom will change, but you are young enough and have enough self-insight to change.

Living in what ifs, I should have, I could have, etc. is only depressing. You need to choose what will you do now.
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Thanks for your response gladimhere :)) And thanks!. I would NEVER leave my mom. Even if I had the means to I still wouldn't do it. My mom HATES aids. We went through sooo many aids when my grams was bedridden. A lot of them had no clue what they were doing. Most of the time I had to give my grams bed baths by myself, because the aids were so incompetent. She also doesn't want a stranger in the house. My mom luckily doesn't need round the clock care. In ny I went to class for 5 hours a day and she was okay by herself for that time. I would be scared leaving her alone here in PA though. Her depression got worse since we moved here. She always has this distraught look on her face, and her nervous tremor has got significantly worse. The HAPPIEST I seen her here was when she went to our new building's christmas party. She mingled with everybody, and it was like having my old mom again. I looked into senior centers around here, and found quite a few, but I honestly don't think she would go. I brought it up once and we never really talked about it again. She pees a lot during the day and she gets anxious when she's away from her commode all day.

I dunno what I wanna do with my life. I constantly go back and forth. Everybody and their mother told me I should go to nursing school, and that it's my "calling" and I was into it for awhile, but now i'm not so sure. I don't think I would be a good nurse. I don't really have any passions. I browse through careers online and nothing really excites me you know? I've been depressed for so long I don't even know how I would fend in the career world. What if I can't emotionally handle a real job? All I know is that I wanna be self sufficient. Me and my mother have this really fucked up co-dependent relationship that really needs to end.

I am SO bitter about my GED. I was so damn CLOSE. I failed by TWO points. TWO! I think I could've swallowed this move much easier if I had received my GED. I put sooo much work and time studying for that damn test. I turned 28 and I just got fed up. The next day I called a bunch of programs and by monday I was taking a placement test for a ged course. That was HUGE for me. I was somewhat of recluse up until that point. I lucked out and got this AMAZING teacher named Cynthia. The class was great to. It was very small and everyone was around my age or older. I went for a year and half straight and I was never late or missed a day. I was DETERMINED to get this damn diploma. So I took the test in october of 2014 and got great scores on everything, but the math. 498 smh. Just two points and I would've had that piece of paper framed.

Thats what KILLS me about this whole thing. There was no rush to move or ask for a buy out! We had three years until our old apartment went to market value. I could've got my ged, and then we could've went about the buyout the right way and got some REAL money. This whole entire move was made on complete impulse. No REAL thought was put into it. My mom has always been horrible decision maker. She doesn't think before she acts. God If I could rewind the past year I would. I wish that neighbor never came up to us. I have to start all over now. The test here is somewhat different then it is in NY. I have to take the entire test all over again, and learn new material. It's so daunting to think about. I don't even know why I keep my old transcripts. They mean nothing here.
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Tati, welcome. What do you want to do. You are so young you should be living your life. Though I do not understand the missing New York at all. But, I do understand that it was your home and moving anywhere after a lifetime somewhere else it is very difficult. I just did it myself 450 miles from my home no family here, and a new job to learn.

Get your GED, then figure out what YOU want to do with your life. Find assistance for your Mom. Do not just leave her without notifying Adult Protective Services. If you did that you could be charged with abandonment.

Call the Area Agency on Aging they will help find the resources your mom needs. Your mom may qualify for caregivers to come in to give you a break. Also find a caregiver support group offered through many churches, assisted living facilities, hospitals and many different organizations like the Alzheimer's Association.
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RR, you are doing the right thing! You know deep in your heart that you have done your very best, and she does too! At this point, caregiving becomes dangerous and difficult, as you must face your own frailties. You will enjoy her more, once the hardest of tasks are done by the professionals, and remember that they get to team up on the more challenging details to do with your Mom and also they will get daily rest and reprieve, something you never get. But now you will too! Yes, we caregivers really do get it!
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I didn't mean to type to so much!! I tried summarizing it the best I could. If anyone takes the time to read it I really appreciate it, if not I completely get it.
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Today has been really bad for me. I don't even know where to begin. I just joined this forum, because I'm desperate and I feel so incredibly lost and alone.

I guess I should share a little bit of my background. I'm 30 years old and i've been my mom's caretaker for the past 6 years. My mom was born with spinal stenosis that progressively got worse with age. In 2009 she went under 4 spinal surgeries to get it corrected it. She was in and out of the hospital and rehab for an entire year. She eventually learned to walk a few feet with a walker, but for the most part she's wheelchair bound. She needs help showering and going to the bathroom. She's in relatively good health except she suffers from chronic UTI's and she's obese, she also suffers with bad anxiety and depression. The surgeries also left her incontinent, so she wets the bed every night. She has a commode she uses during the day. She rarely uses the regular toilet, because it's too "low" and she's just lazy. She'll be 60 in may. She retired a year ago.

5 Months ago we moved out NY to Allentown PA. We lived on the same block for 25 years in the west village. The building we lived in was rent stabilized and was about to go to market value in 3 years. Our building also went co-op a few years ago. Most of the people in the complex bought their apartments for a insider price, but we couldn't afford to buy ours, so we had to stay renters. The renters in the building decided to band together to fight to keep the complex affordable. One day while we were outside our neighbor comes up to us, and tells us that the landlord is offering buyouts to the renters. My mom and brother's eyes instantly lit up. The apartments in west village could EASILY get sold for millions, so it's nothing for a landlord to give renter a 100 grand to get the hell out. Anyway long story short my mom decided to take the buyout. She made a hasty decision and didn't hire an attorney like my brother told her to. She decided to take it into her own and hands, and she fucked up by taking the landlords first offer, which you NEVER do. We didn't even know that she called the landlord until AFTER. She didn't take the time to do her homework, so we basically got chump change. We didn't get close to what we deserved for the apartment. I literally woke up one morning and she was like "I took the buyout and the landlord wants us out in 4 months". Like no discussion, no warning. Nothing. I was LIVID. Not only did we get pennies in the buyout, but she didn't have a discussion with me BEFORE she made a final decision. I also should mention that I was in a GED course at this time. I took the test 6 months prior and passed everything, EXCEPT the math. You need a minimum of 500 on everything to pass. I got a 498 on the math (That 498 will haunt me for the rest of my life) I took the math a second time, and got a 487. I was planning to go back to class last fall, but I couldn't because we had to be out by september 1st, so I never got my GED. So here we are in Allentown PA. We couldn't afford to stay in NY, because the rents are ASTRONOMICAL, even in the outer boroughs. I HATE it here. The homesickness has been UNREAL. I miss NY soooo much. The apartment is nice, but I hate suburban life. My mom admitted that she made a huge mistake and that we should've stayed in NY. We didn't have much, but we were comfortable there. My mom bought a car recently and she can drive a little bit with her disability, but we usually wait for my brother to come up from NY to drive her around, because I never learned to drive, and I have absolutely no desire to learn because of my horrible anxiety. It's been a pain in the ass finding new dr's. Healthcare isn't as accessible here as it is in NY, and you need to drive everywhere. My mom used to have a bus pick her up, or scooter to her appointments in NY. I just WISH we could've had a REAL family discussion before she made such a HUGE decision.

I've been dealing with severe depression and anxiety since I was a teenager. I ended up dropping out of HS when I was 16 because of it. My grandmother was in a wheelchair my whole life and ended up bedridden after a stroke when I was 15. I was her caretaker up until about 17 or 18. We ended up putting her in a nursing home, because she needed round the clock care. From 18 up until 24 I watched my grandmother die a slow horrible death. Her mental state completely deteriorated in the last 2 years of her life. The last few months before her death she couldn't even tell when I was in the room. She passed in 2009. Later that year my mom underwent her surgeries, so I never really had time to process what was happening. That year killed me emotional, physically, and mentally. The stress of just being in the hospital day in and day out, and not knowing if my mom would ever walk again, and having to take care of my nutcase grandfather was just too much. I didn't have any support during that year. My brother never waited with me during her surgeries. He maybe visited her 3 times that entire year. Anyway some how I made it through. Which I'm grateful for, because I can't tell you how many times I walked out of my mom's hospital room bawling my eyes out wanting to just give up.

So yeah our relationship is very strained right now. My anxiety is through the roof. I don't sleep. I lash out a lot, and we're constantly arguing. I wish she would take better care of her health. She smokes almost 2 packs of cigarettes everyday, and she's 300 lbs. My gramps passed away last year from a massive stroke, and I just
see my mom going down the same path as my grams, grandfather and i'm scared.
She tried quitting a few months ago with the patches, but she didn't last more than a week. She's doesn't really wanna quit, because she enjoys it too much. She just smokes and watches tv all day. I've tried talking to her and writing her letters about how scared I am, but she never takes me seriously. She does what she wants. It's like talking to a brick wall.

I'm just tired. I'm 30 years old and I feel like I haven't truly lived. I've been taking care of sick family members since I was teenager, and just living in my own emotional hell or the past 16 years. I don't even remember what it's like NOT to be depressed and anxious. I gained soooo much weight since we moved here, and i've let myself completely go. It's a struggle to get out of bed every morning. I honestly just don't know how to cope anymore. Like i'm at my limit.
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Thank you gladimhere, for thinking of me. I am not sure of the girl scout cookie total ,but when she was selling them she had sold about 30 boxes at that time. I thought maybe I posted to much this week and people might be upset hehe!! oooops thanks for writing me!
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RR, thinking of you. Enjoy those grandchildren, they will not be young for long. And they will invigorate you, give you a new lease on life, and put some joy into the daily routine. Girl Scout Cookies?! YUM! How many did she sell?
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Thank you all so much for your comments. I read them over and over and the support of them means so much to me because you are all caregivers. I have been thinking and crying off and on all weekend. Only we the caregivers understand this stuff! Has anyone ever played mind games?
I give Mom a bedbath, rolling and dressing her and sweating bullets ("omg how long can I do this?").
She sits so pretty and smiles when shes all done. ("omg I can keep her here")
I feed Mom pureed food 3 hours ("omg how can I keep this up?")
Mom laughs and giggles with me ("omg I can keep her here")
I lift (heavy) Mom onto the toilet and she just missed it, her bm's are all over the seat, floor, her and I ("omg how can I keep this up?")
Moms all clean and looks adorable in her pink nighty in bed ("omg I can keep her here")
My granddaughter who is 5 wanted me to come and see all the cookies she sold ("omg I wish I was free" to go)
Yes I am going to say Yes and pray for the best. Now watch after all of this , she doesn't get the spot! My husband said he supports me no matter what I decide, he only fears he will have to bury me first. I cannot imagine not having to be home for a kid, a puppy, or a mother, I've never in my life been free, its TIME, before its too late. Thank You All again!xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
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Reverse roles you are so blessed to have found a place for mom run by Nuns.
They may not be able to afford the latest equipment but they will take the best possible care of her so no worries there.
There is no reason you can not visit often and take her out if you both wish. This is the absolute best you could find so don't let the opportunity slip through your fingers. Mom will be very happy there the nuns will make sure of that.
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Ahhh, RR it is so much more than guilt and not much guilt in my case. Caregiving is a way of life after a number of years, mine was only four. And it is very difficult to start over at any stage in life, but as we age, it becomes even more so. Mom never wanted to be in a facility, I know that. I never wanted her to be in one. But, I needed my life too, and that is what Mom would have wanted. So, now at 61 I am starting my life over. If Mom had her way this never would have happened but it went completely differently than she would have wanted. I do not regret one bit one moment of those four years! For whatever reason it was meant to be. And I do not feel regret or GUILT, but more gratefulness that I had the personality traits, perseverence, motivation, dedication and all necessary that an excellent caregiver needs to have to avoid going off the deep end.

Relieve yourself of the guilt. You also need your life and that you know that is what mom would have wanted, I hope, makes this decision easier for you. The way we live our lives when caregiving, only another caregiver could possibly understand!

RR, take the opportunity to move your mom to this wonderful place that will provide her excellent care. In turn they will will also allow you to care for yourself, and live your life as your Mom wants for you.
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I agree, do it. My mother has been with me since she was 58 and my Father passed on to Glory. She helped us raise our three girls and 2 grandchildren. But now she is 95, she is now wheelchair bound and spends lots of time in bed, she also has dementia and I am losing my husband to dementia. I am losing time with my grandbabies, that kills me! I am getting closer to trying to find a good place for Mom. I have been looking. So sad we once thought we would have time to travel when we retired. But dementia got my husband. Do it RR, you are blessed to have found a place so perfect. Hugs to all, GOD bless the Caregivers.
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REVERSEROLES, like you, I Loved my Mom with all my Heart, and hearing you agonize over this decision, I can tell that it's eating you up, but I understand completely! You must know that she would definitely want you to go forward with this decision, and you've found the absolute Best Possible Place for her, a place most of us would dream of having our Mom or Dad go to live out their days! What an opportunity for you to start living your own life again! I know that is what my Mom would have wanted! Yours does too! How Lucky you are to find a hidden gem of a place to take wonderful care of her! You can go to see her and continue to be there for her every day if you want! I say GO FOR IT! At 60, it's definitely time! My husband just turned 60 also, I'm just 56, and we've had his Dad with us 12 years this year! We are trying to figure out how and when we too can get on with our lives, and like you, made the mistake of PROMISING him, but as you know, we just don't know what we are getting into when the caregiving begins, and we never could believe that one entire decade has gone by, probably out very best decade, when we've finally raised our kids, and financial freedom is right around the corner, RETIREMENT! If we continue to do this, we could quite likely die ourselves and never had the opportunity to retire and enjoy our lives! Take the brass ring if you can, as another opportunity like this may never present itself again! I know that I would! You are not being selfish, you are a fantastic daughter and will continue to be one! Do it!
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Thank you Susan, you are exactly right, my mom never wanted to burden anyone and would want me to live my life. I did tell her I wouldn't ever put her in a nursing home, I promised her. We had many laughs over it, she told me to shoot her if she ever had to leave her home. I can hear us laughing now many years ago over that statement and wouldn't you know SHE got dementia! The daily heavy lifting and rollling her to change her, on top of no freedom has finally gotten to me. I suppose we all think nursing homes are safe, but do we really know, thats the question. I don't want to keep this caretaking up and then say "omg I am 70" Its just so so hard. I feel like a failure now. My Mom is 94 . I feel like I am abandoning her and how can I watch everything they do, I cant. But I would/will be there every single day to help feed her, visit her and hopefully walk her in the wheelchair outside.Thank you again, time will tell if she gets in , but the did call me for her medical info so its looking like they will. Stressful , along with tons of hysterical crying going on here all week.
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RR -

I think you answered your own question, to be honest. You said:

"...My gut says this is an opportunity I shouldn't pass up." and "...I'm 60, I need to live sometime don't I?"

Yes and yes. Mom, by your own statements, is unable to care for herself and needs round-the-clock care, complete with toileting, bathing, dressing, and feeding. You stated the facility meets with your approval. It's only the guilt of changing your situation that is holding you back. There's no way around that, it's simply part of how we are wired. However, you don't have to let the guilt take over your life. You have done your share - more than your share - for Mom. I think your Mom, were she able, would be telling you to go on and leave her in the capable hands at the facility - that she will be fine. The guilt will fade with time. Once she settles into the routine there, and you see that she's ok there, you'll feel better.
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Hello fellow caregivers. I come with my tail between my legs to all of you. I am 100% against nursing homes. I just turned 60, Mom moved in with us with dementia and a broken hip when I was 51. Where did my 50's go? I still had 2 kids living here at the time who both married and moved, Where did all that time with my 2 new grandkids go who are now going to school, how many times did I say to them, and others "sorry we cant go" How many 100's of caregivers did I interview, try and didnt work out? When is my house my house and not leaving with a caregiver here to be with mom and rushing home when "they " tell me I have to be home?
I'm 60? How did that happen? My mom is so sweet. My Mom hasnt known me, hasnt walked, talked or be really able to communicate much at all for over 5+ years now. Although mom cant walk, i have her on a schedule and I put her on the toilet, put her in her wheelchair and hoyer the other times. I spend approx 5+ hours a day spoon feeding her puree foods. I can however get smiles and laughs out of her when I bounce her arms and sing to her, which melts my heart. My friends Dad just passed away, He was in a (nuns-run) nursing home of only 15 people on 2 floors. Due to their highly regarded respect for him, it looks like they might take my Mom in. After touring it and seeing the private rooms, the nuns, the aides and how nice everyone was, I was taken and applied. Now I am scared, should I, shouldn't I? I have bought an old van which is gone now, and taken my mom with us summers to the lake. I spent most of the time, well actually most the time washing, changing and feeding her and never could even get out in the boat. Despite the harder work to be there, I was just happy for a change of scenery.God I love her, but God I'm 60, I need to live some time dont I? The guilt is killing me. I feel its a good place, you cannot even get in without ringing a bell and being let in. The female aides were all dressed in white to form an angel at the funeral to show their respect. My friends dad was there 4.5 years and loved it, but he had his mind. If I get "the call" what do I do(?) My gut says this is an opportunity I shouldn't pass up. My son (35) says "mom, a new lifestyle, you can finally get out of the house and you can spend as much or little time as you want there, they also have gorgeous grounds there with walking trails, maybe I could wheel Mom if they gave nice wheelchairs she wont slide out of, and finally lose my 8 year weight gain! Naturally I get online here and see horror stories again and re think my thoughts of freedom. I needed to vent, thanks for listening all, and Jude, oh thank you. I would love comments, truthful ones.
RR
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Kidnumber2....im not sure if your mom has dementia, but i know that those who do tend to lose the ability to think about anyone else. Something with this disease robs them of their ability to see putside of their own world and feelings. I know my mom is no longer able to 'care' about whats going on in my world or think about anything but her own situation. Does your mom have dementia? Even if she doesnt, you should not feel bad in ANY way. If you had the resources to finance trips and visits to her, of course you would. With the cost of things, only a well to do person could afford travel and accomodations. It was her choice to move. Unless others in your family would like to help you go see her, theres nothing you can do to change the situation and its not your fault. Its hard not having anyone to talk to about issues...i know i miss having my mom to discuss things with....but shes lost that ability and i know its not her fault either. I hope you can find peace with the distance thats now between you and your mom.
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Windytown, yes, Book is smart!
Hugs back to you, you deserve it!
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Send, I know she is one smart woman. You as well. Hugs to both of you.
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Windytown, It is Book that often takes appropriate time away to patch herself up. She will bounce back, like always. I trust her, and she does check in with someone. So she has not abandoned us.
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Book, How are you doing? I'm concerned about you.
Doing 'okay' my side. Mom's a little more cray-cray my side but nothing I can't handle this side. Just worried about you.
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I am not the person on the ground with my Mom as she moved 1.000 miles away. Before that she lived 25 minutes from my home by bus. All my siblings have visited her except me since her move. She has no accommodation for me, I cannot afford a hotel and airfare and do not drive. I told her before she left (about 3 years ago) that it would be unlikely that I would visit there. I have employment and economic challenges and it is just not feasible for me.
I try to call her at least 3 times a week and discuss every detail of her life with her, her health cand safety concerns (she has a physical disability) - to share and show that I care - and also to tlak over problems, share stories etc.
The last time we spoke I was having a terrible problem of my own I wanted to discuss with her. She called me, we discussed every manner of issue she had. When the conversation turned to my concerns, she said she had a lunch date and could not talk to me. I was so upset. Then she said I did not care about her (because I wanted to talk to her and she was more concerned about her lunch date) and she said "you don't care about me".

That's it in a nutshell. She knows I will not be making a trip down there so it does not seem to matter to her any more what I do to try and make her happy. "You don't care about me" is her attitude. I have done so much for her over the years it is difficult to hear her say that. We have not spoken since then, about 2 weeks ago.
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Book, I don't like crying either. It makes me feel weak. But some times it is actually good for us. So much stress is released! I so wish I could cry right now, so give me your tears, I'll take them and you get yourself some rest. We care about you and don't want you to have to carry this burden alone. I wish I could physically help you but since I can't, I'm sending you my thoughts and prayers that we do care about YOU! So many here do. Know that Book!
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See you when you get back, Book! Patches and all.
Love from Send.
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New day and woke up so tired. I didn't read much after the few posts after my last comment. It just made me cry a lot. I don't like crying. I tried again a few hours later, cried again. I'm fine. I'm going to withdraw for a while. I need to do this to patch myself together again.
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Babalou. Yes she does have children and I have asked her this question before and she said the kids would have to look after her.
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Does oldest sis have children? I frankly would not put anything past her family. Sorry, but i feel nothing but anger toward them.
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