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2 Timothy 3:7 Always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth.
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You are being disingenuous polarbear, the message your post clearly promoted was that her poor health and inability to return to work was related to having had covid "despite" being vaccinated, therefore implying the vaccines don't provide any benefit.

I DO NOT deny there have been tragic vaccine side effects, but everything I've read tells me that the scales of tragedy are most heavily weighed on the side of those unvaccinated who became ill.
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Polarbear,
Now I understand your grief and obsession for this unfortunate child of 12, (Maddie McGaray), reported suffering over 6 mos. ago. You have two teenage daughters and of course are concerned for them. It is a very sad occurrence.
It is not that we do not see the tragedy, and grieve.

I do not understand why you keep repeating her sad story, over and over, and including it in your debate(s) over the pandemic, Covid-19, and vaccines. It appears you just want to debate Covid, and cause division. You twist people's words to suit your opinions, making it appear others agree with you. As if you are a professional provacateur.

You have let people know. We have read it.

Maybe you could start your own thread about the pandemic, and people who agree or disagree with you can go there to discuss this hot topic.

Believers have been relegated to the Believing Caregivers thread, biblical posts are not welcome in most places. I understand that too.

The things you bring up repeatedly are already on the news, blogs, and other social media sites. It is overwhelming.

Can you give us a break? My condolences for your fears, personal losses, and concerns. You have offended people who generally like and appreciate you.
Even people who may agree with you. However, your approach is not going to win anybody over. And no one is going to agree with you on everything, especially if you are an extremist or conspiracy theorist.

My dh's mother sends e-mails of every volatile issue on the internet. We both had to make a special folder for her e-mails to collect, so we would not have to read them. Sad, that her platform issue it to get rid of the population, never have children, green burials-to an extreme. Sends this info to her son, her own child. She never connects to him on a personal level, never talks to him, just forwards stuff.

She is a narcissist, and would never receive what I am trying to let you know, for your benefit. Can you tone it down a bit? Or start a new thread?
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Send, I did NOT start talking about Covid today. It was cwillie who brought it up. I also did NOT start discussing covid on Nov 9, someone else brought it up first.

No idea why you said I twisted anyone’s word. Are you referring to my agreement to the proverb? I didn’t rewrite the words, just agreeing with them.
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Send, Polar is not guilty. If you don’t like her comments or discussions, scroll on by.
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Wondering why people use the Scriptures to make others wrong.

It is no wonder people don't want to hear the good news. Especially when it is used as a sledgehammer
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The "scripture" used had nothing to do with the Covid topic or Polarbear.
I was using scripture to change the subject. Not to make people wrong.


Romans 7:15-20
15 For I do not understand what I am doing; for I am not practicing what I want to do, but I do the very thing I hate. 16 However, if I do the very thing I do not want to do, I agree with the Law, that the Law is good. 17 But now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin that dwells in me. 18 For I know that good does not dwell in me, that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not. 19 For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. 20 But if I do the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin that dwells in me." NASB
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This is about the Covid-19 vaccines:

"A breakthrough infection is an infection with a virus, bacterium or other germ after you have been vaccinated. This is an expected occurrence for a small percentage of those receiving any vaccine, since no vaccine for any disease is 100% effective in preventing infection in every person who receives it.
Breakthrough coronavirus infections happen when someone who has been fully vaccinated for COVID-19 becomes infected with the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus. Lisa Maragakis, M.D., M.P.H., senior director of infection prevention, and Gabor Kelen, M.D., director of the Johns Hopkins Office of Critical Event Preparedness and Response, explain what you need to know about breakthrough coronavirus infections."

This is the current terminology being used in the medical profession
"Breakthrough infections".
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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) -Pop star Britney Spears on Friday regained control of her personal life and her money when a judge ended a 13-year conservatorship that became a cause celebre for fans and critics of an arrangement typically meant to protect the elderly.
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Send, I think thou doth protest too much.

Your intentions were made very clear after polarbear responded to your 1st Scripture and you posted more Scripture.
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Oh, just cut it out you guys! This is a good thread that is being spoiled by petty discussions. The admin. may remove it. They have done that in the past when a stupid discussion got out of hand.

Just agree to disagree and let it go!
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Geez....

This is when I really HATE to see every comment in my feed. I don't need to read this kind of nonsense. Agree, just agree to disagree, leave it be.
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Barb: Thank you for your post. I had a relatively good day and was even able to drive myself to my pharmacy, to gas up my auto and to get a snack. That was huge for me. I have read up on the Holter monitor as best I can. In your opinion, why do you think my physicians would take my issue seriously if I was a male?
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kellse: I thank you so much for your post and your similar story. Supposedly, presyncope is a real conundrum/is tough to get to the underlying cause. My life changed dramatically in June/July as I formerly was a very active 74 y.o. I am glad to read that you have not had any presyncope episodes in 2 years! That's great! I appreciate SO much all help, truly.🧡
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Apologies to Polarbear for making it personal.
Letting it go.
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Wow, what a gift! We had a lot of snow yesterday. The Amazon delivery guy dropped off a parcel this morning and then took a broom and started sweeping my door step. I was blessed and thanked him. Then he took the snow shovel and shoveled the whole driveway!!! I asked him if I could pay him and he said "No. This is just for you."

Tears! I am double blessed.
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Hi Golden,
What a very kind and thoughtful man. I am going to say a special prayer for him. It is truly a blessing!. Hugs.
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Thanks, EB. He is always very up beat and courteous, and I appreciate him.
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Send. That’s very nice of you. Thank you.
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Polarbear,
🌻🌺🌷🌹🌸
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Hi everyone,
My mother is doing extremely well. We are heading to the beach for the afternoon. Mom loves the beach. Hope you are have a great day!!
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Llama, glad you are feeling better!!
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Barb: Thank you so much!
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Where oh where is the snow?! None to speak of this year, a few flakes doesn't count. It has been so dry and warm. Unseasonably warm, 70's often. Finally tomorrow 50's and more seasonable for awhile. How on the list of latest snow ever. Last year first snow was in early September, that was very early.

Latest ever recorded for this area to get snow is November 21. Looking like this year will set a new record. I enjoy the change of seasons and this fall is nothing like I have ever seen before. But the trees are all without there leaves now, some strong winds last week. So, snow come on!
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I met with a tropical doctor today and she is having tests done. Blood test for Schistosoma antibody and stool test for oval parasite. These parasites can live in the body for years and disrupt organs. and cause disease. Thank you all for advising me. I really appreciate your time. Will keep you updated.
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early: So glad that you saw the specialist today, "the tropical doctor." Please update with the recommendation(s).💛
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Earlybird my question to you is: Did my comments about my itching suddenly motivate you to finally address your twenty year itching problem? If it did, good on me!
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Wow, 20 years of itching...
That really puts the 7 year itch to shame!
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EB - so glad you are looking for a diagnosis and treatment. Prayers for success.

So blessed again as my dd and family came over yesterday to do some stuff here for me. Sil did the most of it and gdg piled in and helped. Then I got great bear hugs from the grands and dd. Slowly getting things accomplished here. Feels good.
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Full Moon is @ 99.7% and waxing...
Waxing = showing bigger
Waning = showing less

Anybody feeling weird or experiencing physical or behavioral symptoms?

There is also reported an eclipse, or partial eclipse in some areas.

I get my information from 'time and date' dot com.
Fun to watch.
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