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My mom's neighbor just broke her pelvis also
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Oh, ouch. As you know fx of pelvis is soooo painful. Not going to improve anything for sure.
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Alva,
Don’t worry . This has been my MIL’s lifelong behavior . I learned boundaries with this woman 40 years ago . And hopefully DH gets stronger . He did learn some dealing with his Dad ( now deceased) . I think he will be stronger with Mom than he was with Dad , because his Mom has ladled out plenty of guilt trips, silent treatment etc his whole life . He’s fed up with her always pulling nonsense to get her way. I could write a book including with us canceling our wedding and eloping because of her shenanigans .
Found out last night from the nurse , MIL has a fractured pelvis . So that buys us some time . She should be a rehab a decent amount of time .
Touring two facilities tomorrow .
If by some miracle she goes home , will call APS . She’s lucky we are even looking out for her at all .
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Way, don't let her manipulate you and hubby this way. It isn't good for hubby, for you, and most of all for her.
Think about what happens when 2-year olds are allowed to manipulate parents and to divide them, worry them, make choices bad for them. They become angrier and more confused by the second. It's out of control.
She needs limits on the amount of abuse she ladled out into your bowl; needs to understand that in the same wise there are days she doesn't wish to speak with YOU there are also days when the two of you need a day off from HER. All's fair in love and war.
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Good for you, Way. It sounds like they are not coping well at all. They really needs lots of help - definitely 24/7.
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WOW, waytomisery , the desperation people go through to keep what they think is independence, and refusal to give in.
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I‘m assuming she will be sent to rehab ???
Anyway if she makes it home again , I’m calling APS , and the Agency of Aging.

MIL and her partner ( with moderate Alzheimer’s ) are not functioning . The other family said there were plates of food all over . MIL could not make it to the bathroom either. A mess upstairs . The partners family wants to bring an aide in part time . It’s not enough , they need 24/7 supervision .
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Way I am so sorry that the relatives are mad at you and hubby. It sure doesn't help anything. None of this is your fault. Mil continues to make her own bad health care decisions. I agree with your hub. She will have to be in a bad state before she changes her ways. Thinking of you as you go through this yet again.

Just saw your most recent post.
Dh is doing what right for him, which is great. You both have wasted a lot of time trying to help MIL Good decision!
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Oh boy .
DH came home in a foul mood . His mother won’t even answer her phone at the hospital , per the nurse who was kind enough to try to make that happen .
DH says we are now not driving out tomorrow . He has too much on his plate at work to waste an extra day if she isn’t going to talk . 😬😬😬😬.
He says we will go out very early Friday morning and try to catch a doctor .
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Way , you and your hubby, did everything thing you could, your mil made her choice to live the way she was, and fought you both tooth and nail to keep her independence , but disregarding how difficult it has been for you and your family to watch this.
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This drama started on Monday . The wound care nurse called an ambulance and MIL refused to go . Police came too .
She finally gave in and went in last night by ambulance .

We have multiple family members angry that we didn’t drive out Monday . DH told the relatives that she would not listen to him on the phone Monday when the police called . She was “ lucid “ as far as the EMTs were concerned , and said she could refuse . DH told the relatives she will have to fail , until she gives in .
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((((((Way)))) Oh, dear. here you go again. Hopefully someone there makes sensible decisions. Kee[ us updated!
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Waytomisery, drive safe, and best of luck. So sorry 😔, let us know how it goes. We will be thinking of you
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Mother in law in the hospital again , making the 200 mile drive to attempt “ unsafe discharge “ again . Hoping it sticks this time .
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Cwillie, on the Joni Mitchell moment, it is probably because you are hearing (actively or passively) Joni Mitchell in the news and social media heavily past few days.

maybe a week or so ago Amanda Seyfried was on the Tonight Show. LSS she pulls out a dulcimer!!! sings “California”. Pretty amazeballs as she has a great voice and had this whole retro boho chic look going on. Of course it went viral. Big time viral. And she’s out doing press for that new Peacock series and the Joni Mitchell comparisons keep popping up. Like she’ll do an interview and it will run a Mitchell song for her intro or ending. Or someone’s podcast will talk abt what to stream and her series gets mentioned and presto another Mitchell earworm played.

I image it’s all about her getting placed to do the Mitchell biopic. Like who just happens to have a dulcimer in their car.
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cw and alva - I'm trying to do both, within the limits of my body. Despite my various food intolerances/allergies there is still lots of good healthy food to eat that I enjoy. The list is more limited than it was, but that is life for many things as you age. I honestly don't enjoy bingeing on sweets or junk food. Once I did but now I don't. The after effects aren't worth it. As far as drink goes, alcohol is a  Group 1 carcinogen and I choose not to ingest it, not that that is a great loss for me, I prefer my calories and cancer risks in other forms.

bob - your mom will die one day. That's definite. So maybe it was a "heads up" to prepare yourself. I think dreams do reflect what's on our minds.

cw - weird, I agree.
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I woke up with Joni Mitchel's circle game running through mind, I can't remember when I last heard that song.... weird.
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@Blickbob,
Dreams, to me, usually reflect in some odd way what we are going through and what we are trying to work out in our minds, prepare for, come to terms with. I think that's what your dream means.
The demise of your mom NOW would, I believe, be entirely coincidental, but we being humans, who want REASONS will most certainly make up a whole story around it, just as we do in dreams.

We tell dreams in "art" if you will, in allegory, in stage sets.
I love the dream world--just love it. And I so wonder at that being, for one half our lives, our "real world". I so prefer that world to real life.
I think your dream is lovely, to tell the truth, told with the majesty you see in a state funeral, or the funeral of "someone important".
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Last night, I dreamt I lost my mom. At her service, she wasn't in a coffin. Instead, she was laid out the same way a dead pope lies in state during his funeral at St. Peter's Basilica before being put in a coffin. She was dressed much differently than I've ever seen her and she wasn't wearing what I plan to have her wear when she actually passes away.

With that dream and the blood moon tonight, it's making me wonder...

Was it a crazy dream...or a warning/heads up...?
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cwillie, there used to be a doctor named Dean Edell, still alive but retired, who did a radio show on KGO talk radio when it was alive. He was so full of common sense as well as medical advice and actually WROTE a BOOK called Eat, Drink and be Merry. His belief is that research shows that by doing EVERYTHING you could/should to prolong everything gets you perhaps another year in the nursing home, and he wonders why you would want that.

At 83 this year and 84 respectively, my partner and I find that we simply cannot TOLERATE what we once could in unhealthy things; they wreck havoc on our systems. So it isn't for want of trying to eat bad that we eat better. And our old joints MUST keep moving and exercising, or, it is now clear, they will not work well.

Perhaps there is a happy medium somewhere, but in my experience humans aren't great at control. Wish you well. I side with "happiness" if it means the occ. bag of Trader Joe's Original potato chips.
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I've reached a point in my life where not sure whether it should be eat, drink and be merry or trying my best to preserve my health for as long as possible.
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cw - it's very sad.
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I've just been reading the update about Gene Hackman and his wife Betsy Arakawa..... 😖
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Way, glad the wound care specialist coming in as she/he is a mandated reporter of unsafe situation.
They are loathe to take a citizen's rights if that person is somewhat competent.
You may be down to sitting back and "waiting for the call" from medical, hospital or from the coroner.
To be honest, enforced placement, allowing for another year or so of unhappy life?
Let it go where it's going; don't enable it by stepping in. About all I can say, and that's very tough to do.
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Alva ,
She must have done well enough in rehab to go home last month . I have not seen her recently . DH and I saw her prior to rehab in the hospital . We live 4 hours away .
She lies and says she will hire an aide , get grab bars and get a stair lift etc . She says she uses a walker now . Most likely because she can’t do at all without it .
The bar seems to be getting lower as far as discharge . If they are lucid and I guess understand their situation , and the consequences , they can go home .
A wound care nurse comes to the house .
My MIL showtimes very well , is very convincing .
BTW. MIL does not fully comprehend her situation . She thinks she’s going to get better . She’s declining . She is in later stages of CLL, She has lost a ton of weight , gets iron infusions , her color is slightly jaundiced . Also in moderate kidney failure .She’s stooped over so far she’s looking at only the floor when she ( barely ) walks . This has been slowly deteriorating for years .
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But Way, being lucid isn't key in discharge. Or isn't the ONLY key.
Can she take care of herself?
If no it is an unsafe discharge and should be reported to JCAHO.

Also, if she isn't able to do own care then the call gets placed and she's transported back. Do that enough and it dings hospital for early re-admit, a big one that clues in JCAHO that there was inadequate discharge and unsafe discharge.

I am so sorry for all you're going through Way.
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(((((((way)))))) - the crises keep happening. One of them will be big enough. Mil's partner's family really aren't helping but good of them to phone dh. The waiting game in no fun. Hope your dd is doing better.
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Thanks burnt ,

DH and I just hold on to “ it’s the last parent in this dementia trilogy “. 😭😭
3 out of 4 had/have dementia . MIL is the last parent living .
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@waytomisery

I'm so sorry you're in the weeds with your MIL. If she showtimes that well and the hospital or APS won't help with her, you're just going to have to let the chips fall where they may. Just trust that none of it is your fault.
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@burht ,
The ER sent her back home last night .

We failed at “ unsafe discharge” last month when she was in the hospital . The social worker said she’s “ lucid “ .

She showtimes well . She was sent to rehab last month for a bit . The social worker at rehab never returned one call to DH even though he left messages about being concerned about her going home .

So we wait .

MIL was upset that my DH found out she was at the ER . When DH called the ER and spoke to her , MIL wanted to know who told him . DH didn’t tell her that MIL’s partner’s son had called my DH . The partner’s Alzheimer’s is so bad , and couldn’t remember why my MIL went in the ambulance . Partner’s son figured he’d better call my DH .
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