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Golden - what I was trying to say is that I think people who have unrealistic expectations are more apt to report that physio (or other therapies) were of no benefit, or no lasting benefit.
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gershun -so glad you have a diagnosis and treatment. Sorry you have arthritis but better to know it and treat it. Being mindful of your neck tension and addressing that should help and should physio. I had it for my arm and shoulder and it made a big positive difference.

cw - Mother was a physiotherapist and PT is more than your attitude. For example tendons can be stretched and muscles strengthened to take the pressure off of joints. She had several bad disks but had such good posture and body muscle strength she never had back problems.

glad - good to hear some prices are dropping in some places. Not great if you are the seller though.
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Even newly built home prices are beginning to come down. Wonder how much profit is built into new homes?
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Yes, I know Willie but I'm expecting a lot! LOL

No, but really I know what you are saying. I know
physio isn't going to cure anything but even if it
makes arthritis more tolerable I'll take that.
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Gershun - I think that the benefit of things like physio, acupuncture and any other alternative therapies depends a lot on your expectations, nothing is going to cure a chronic condition but even short term relief can be worth pursuing.
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Thx Beatty, I know they do offer dry needling and acupuncture at the physio place where I'm going. Right now he's recommended some neck stretches and I've been doing them. I already feel slight relief. Time will tell if it's a long term benefit. But I'll persevere until I find what works and what does not. The posture thing is a problem with me. I've always carried all my tension in my neck so learning to keep my shoulders down and relaxed is something I also need to work at.

Thx for the advice!
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Gershun, sorry to hear about the pain in your neck.

My experience has been the arthritis/inflammation irritated nerves, causing some muscles to stay 'on' & staying all tight. (Lower spine though not neck).

I had quite good, but short term success with 'dry needling' from the physio.
I had better & almost immediate success with acupuncture, but short term too. These were more treatments than cure. Still worth it!

Next came trying to build better muscles for better posture habits with the physio. I'm sure this did help over time.

Not pain free but I have a plan for flare ups now: heat, stretches, rest, rebuild.

Hope you get it sorted.
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Margaret you are the third person on here who has told me physio did not help them. But I've only been once and I'm going to give it a good try. It may work for me. I hope it does. Trying to stay positive. Cause what other choice do I have.

I did ask for people's experiences, good or bad. Be careful what you ask for they say. Gulp..................

But thank-you just the same.
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Gershun, I tried acupuncture for my back pain years ago. It did help a bit, but the ‘help’ only lasted a day or so. Too difficult and expensive for daily repeats.

I’ve never heard of physio for arthritis, and my experience with physio has been totally unhelpful – including ‘I’ve never seen one of these outside a text book’, when I’d given the details when I booked. They never say that they can’t help.

My personal choices are lying down (often flat without a pillow) on a hot water bottle, and codeine when I need to shift the pain (not enough to get addicted). Life changes, but you find ways to cope. Good luck!
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Gershun: You're welcome.
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Thank-you Llama too!
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Thank-you Willie. My sister mentioned that she tried acupuncture for her neck too. I may consider it if the other physio doesn't do the trick. It's still early days so I'm going to give it a chance, do the stretches he recommends and go from there.

I've done a lot of googling too and I definitely want to do all stuff that does not require trigger point injections/ surgery if I can possibly avoid it. I know there is no cure for this but it can be managed so I'm going to try really hard to manage it the correct way.
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I'm sorry you have cervical arthritis Gershun 🙁 Being a nerd I've been googling and the web tells me that acupuncture can be very helpful, I know it did wonders for my mom's sciatica.
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Thx Lu!😊
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Gershun~
I'm so sorry youv'e got neck problems.
I have arthritis in my neck too.
Physical therapy helped me with mine for awhile.
The more they mess with your neck though,you really pay for it later.
I'd be fine and then get a neck rub and then I'd hurt all the next day.
I hope you find a way to get better & soon~
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Geaton, not a gall bladder problem. He had it removed about 6 months ago. But, he said since that surgery, the area did not feel right. He thought something must still be wrong.
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Gershun: So sorry.
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Glad, when you say "bile blockage" do you mean gallbladder problems? My husband had an emergency gallbladder removal surgery on Monday morning. He was never vaccinated and got covid earlier this spring with just flu-ish symptoms, then recovered. He did have 2 suspected gallbladder problems prior to his covid (most likely stones migrating, causing intense pain, but then passing successfully). This time the stone they removed was 1.3" in diameter so it wasn't going anywhere. I'm wondering if covid "ramped up" his gall bladder issues. He doesn't fit the profile of someone with this type of problem.
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Friend with Covid and bile blockage, is slowly getting better. It has been nearly four weeks now. He is an antivaxer (nothing derogatory there, just fact). I wonder if he wishes he had gotten the vax. But, I would never ask. His wife continues to be healthy, just worn out from worrying so about him.
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So it turns out that I have bilateral facet osteoarthritis in my neck. Oh joy, oh bliss! Not!

I had my physio therapy assessment yesterday and my first real physio today. I wasn't sure what to expect but it was passive stuff. I was hooked up to a couple of machines for a while and he did some manual stuff. But as far as actual participation on my part. That was minimal. I guess he's easing into it cause my neck is quite sore and the muscles are very inflamed.

Anyone have any physio experiences they'd like to share? Good or bad? Any thing I should look out for and be careful of? Feel free to share. It would be helpful. Thx
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Before I forget, I learned about a resource I have never heard of. They are a resource of resources, connecting people that need assistance with unknown services. Website if thearc.org

If you have heard of this site, let me and others know what your experience has been.
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Ali: Click on "Newest First."
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Thanks AliBoBali!
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Venting, I was much better at managing my father's needs during caregiving -- such as getting long-overdue medical treatment for him and seeing him through different surgical procedures he needed and all the aftercare in between. But meanwhile, I fell apart physically, mentally, and every which way. I'm not sure why that happens to caregivers, but I get it. Caring for someone else can be very draining. Refill your tank starting with simple things, maybe? Get yourself some flowers on your next grocery trip. Go for a walk, slowly, and observe nature. Look up motivational videos on YouTube. That helped me get going again. (((hugs)))
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Strange. I searched for this thread in the search bar and it took me to mid-2018 posts. It was confusing for a second there but also nice to see some names of friends who have moved on from the site, like bookluvr. 💛

It's the strawberry supermoon today and tonight. I like the name of it and the idea of a pink moon. I don't like the extra agitation I get -- and I don't care what ANYONE says, haha, or what every single empirical study has found (that there is no correlation between full moons and increased mental *whatever*). I know what I know, and I know I get extra cranky and extra ramped up every. single. month. with the full moon.

Give your elders a pass tonight. Give yourself a pass. 🌕
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I noticed a strange pattern with myself (it's probably true for other people too).

I am much better at, and much more willing, to solve other people's problems, than my own. I spent a lot of time helping my Mom, and yet I hardly take care of my own administrative problems.

Part of it, is the exhaustion after helping my Mom with emergencies (she's OK right now). So I need a break, need to relax. But part of it can't be explained that way: honestly, part of it, is just that I'm bad at managing my own life; I don't feel like dealing with my administrative problems. Some of them are simple: go to that government building, do that, sign that paper, go there. And yet I don't do it.

Even health; yes, for sure part of it is exhaustion and stress from helping my Mom, so I let my health/body slide. But part of it, is just that I'm better at taking care of my Mom, than my own body. Taking better care of my own body involves effort.

I'll endeavour to do better towards myself.
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hugs & courage to all! :)

just a cute story:
i just saw on international news (true story), yesterday/sunday, a walrus decided to take a nap in someone’s boat.

the firemen were called. they got the walrus out of the boat. but the walrus swam back to the boat and continued sleeping.

the firemen decided he’s allowed to sleep there until he leaves on his own.
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It always feels so good to be in my own bed, knowing I will be here for five nights.
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Looking forward to tomorrow. It's my day off from dialysis, my physical therapist is taking PTO time and I have no doctor appointments. Just sit around.
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barb - hope you are OK!
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