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Had to go to doctors park this am. ambulance transport to get pre-tests and x-rays for my surgery Monday and a trip to my nephrologists' office. Worn out, but at least I got a breath of fresh air going in and out. doesn't take much for me to be entertained.
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Oh no. Meat Loaf has passed away. Another beacon of my youth gone... but one heck of a boost for the choir of angels. May he sing out in eternity.
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Glad, I'm in northern Maine. Don't follow the info on Covid at all. Most of what I've read is here on AC. don't keep up with much because everything has been made too political.
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Which Maine are you in? Sounds like a major problem.

https://wgme.com/news/local/maine-cdc-faces-backlog-of-46000-positive-covid-19-cases
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CW, the city of Minneapolis proper has a mask mandate. I went to play tennis in my health club NOT in Minneapolis and they had a mask requirement in the lobby but not on the courts (which they didn't have on Monday when I went). High school students in St. Paul staged a walk-out last week demanding "more protection" and free masks. I'm aware about Hawaii because my son recently moved there. Fortunately the SCOTUS recently blocked the mandates for large employers. https://www.wsj.com/articles/supreme-court-blocks-biden-vaccine-rules-for-private-employers-allows-them-for-healthcare-workers-11642103130
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CW, I looked up restrictions here. Vaccinated no restrictions. Indoor masks if not vaccinated in some towns. Travelers from out of state can be asked to provide proof of vaccination and quarantine for 7 days. My stepson says he has a sign provided by the state on his restaurant door and at his 3 bars but says no one has shown up to see if it's being enforced. His locations are in a college town and he says students don't seem to follow too many rules. he spends most of his efforts on deterring underage drinking. Lots of law enforcement for that. NH that I'm in have vax requirements for staff and monitor visitors.
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Becky I think if there are mandates and they were being enforced you would have to know🤣

I found an article from aarp that gave a summary for each state, I just skimmed it but as far as I can tell Hawaii is the only state with any serious restrictions. Anecdotal reports from people crossing the border are that most are amazed at the almost total lack of any kind of precautions.
I asked because I'm confused by the posts from those who write so angrily about anything pandemic related, I thought perhaps there were some onerous mandates I wasn't aware of.

And thanks for your report too ITRR, you confirmed what I have heard elsewhere.
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Not much discussion about Covid where I live. Not close to anyone who has had Covid. Most people in my area place a great deal of value on personal freedoms and the rights of individuals to make their own decisions. I don't know what mandates or restrictions are in place or if they are enforced.
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cw, in Arizona they have mask mandates that aren't enforced.

I don't know of any other restrictions in place and we are making news with the increase in cases.
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Can I ask what kind of restrictions are in place where you are? I've seen a LOT of talk about the tyranny of difficult restrictions and but from my perspective from afar most of you don't seem to have many restrictions at all or much to complain about 🤔
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So, it is apparent that neither vaccinating multiple times and/or wearing a mask prevents the spread of Omicron. Omicron is significantly less likely to cause the VAST majority of healthy, low-risk group people to have any problems (it is more like a cold). Omicron has been proven to be airborne, not on surfaces (so hand sanitizer is a waste of time). So why are healthy people being required to wear masks? And if Omicron is more like a cold to healthy, low-risk people, and high-risk people are being responsible for their own health by staying home, then why are we masking and masking and testing and testing -- except that our current govt is forcing companies to adopt artificial and onerous covid policies? If you test positive for something that is no more than a cold to the average person...so what? You have a cold. High-risk people get vaccinated, wear masks and stay away from others. Vulnerable people like elders should get protected. That's as much as we should all be doing now.
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Strange county. The state is offering free KN-95 masks being distributed through public libraries. Most counties in the state are listed. Not here, after all this county does not believe in covid.😠😠

I ordered from Amazon a few days ago, they arrived yesterday. I am probably lucky they were delivered.

There are some communities where citizens are angry over restrictions imposed by government. There are also communities where citizens are equally angry where the government doesn't do enough.
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Interesting stuff, CM. (The news show says "EU" but I misremembered "NATO." oops)

Some things mentioned: the US is the 2nd largest UK steel importer (though UK steel is only 1.8% of US imported steel) and the UK is "galled" that the US lifted EU steel tariffs but not UK tariffs. That's being attributed to Brexit. Steel and aluminum (AH-loom-i-num... you guys say it funny 😉) are both mentioned but steel was discussed in the show. After some digging, I found the recorded show here: https://www.stitcher.com/show/apm-marketplace

I like reading an insider point of view on UK politics. I can see how social distancing and the burden of it could be infuriating to everyday Brits, especially if that was not being supported and modeled at the top. The US, under Trump, went so far with it that now many Americans think of covid as a political virus. It's either potentially deadly or "just a flu," largely depending on whether you vote Democrat or Republican. The virus is voting Independent.
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NATO isn't a trading organisation, Ali - I didn't hear the program (!?! - not surprisingly) but I expect any relaxation of tariffs would have been related to US policy aimed at trying to get EU member states of NATO to pull their weight financially. Which really would be news. Aluminium production in the UK (especially Wales) is important but unpopular because of its energy use, as for steel I can't imagine that there'd be much duty to pay on a packet of ball bearings, which is about as much as our steel manufacturing base could come up with these days - in any case, we're having to revisit all trade agreements with all countries all over again because of leaving the EU and so it starts from whatever the default tariff is; and it'll take them 'til Domesday to sort out the Irish border question alone so don't hold your breath. No government, friendly or otherwise, can appear to endorse, let alone reward, Brexit without alienating all of the EU member states and impacting hugely on foreign as well as trade policy, because to paraphrase Sir Humphrey Appleby "we can make a complete pig's breakfast of the whole thing, and the Foreign Office is terribly happy - it's just like old times!"

That's all standard fare, but the rage over social distancing isn't. Of course the media and the opposition are stirring it up for all they're worth but the anger is very real and more to the point it's felt at least equally by people who *are* mainstream pro-vaccine, pro-testing and pro-compliance. For two years the great majority of people have actually sacrificed all of the most important human connections at times of crisis, birth, death, illness, loneliness - and let's not forget graduation and educational milestones - because they were taking their social responsibilities seriously, and all through that time the politicians and civil servants at the very top were making a mockery of it. It's beyond satire and you cannot overstate how catastrophic the national sense of humour failure is. If Boris were capable of shame he wouldn't be where he is now, so disregard that factor altogether, but there's a limit to how many furious constituents his MPs can handle before they break down.
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The tariffs the US has in place for UK steel and aluminum is interesting to me. Why would the US lift them for NATO but not for the UK? Seems like it will happen but also seems like some political right/left-wing posturing.

That's 'on my mind' today as I listened to NPR on the drive home. I think it's a symptom of the bigger problems in the divide between ideologies and allies be damned, but maybe I'm overthinking it.
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Boris is not exactly a good example or perhaps is a very good example of what not to do. Amongst politicians, he is not alone.
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CW, the UK's current government is in no position to enforce existing regulations and has gone ahead with full relaxation in the hope of venting a national pressure cooker of outrage.

I stress, "current." You might make a few dollars on a little bet on that point if you're a gambling woman and you're quick.
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I've often wanted to share something about the most recent SARS-CoV-2 immunity studies and other related scientific articles that I'm reading, but don't feel AC is the place.

However... I've been thinking for some time that the media and politicians are doing everyone a disservice by not being straightforward in trusting the public with hard scientific facts. It's a fact that researchers didn't foresee (because they couldn't) how resistant this novel virus would be to natural infections or vaccinations, and there's been confusion in the best brains over the data coming back. But that's not a message, that I've seen, from any media/politicians or agency spokespersons. It's clear that antibodies are the way forward. Other things are a muddle.

And now that I've typed this comment that I already regret, may I never say another thing about covid on AC. (Hah. Not likely but I'll try to keep it to a minimum. 🤐)

RIP to the 5.6M people who have passed from this virus, and may the advances science makes that help many others be a legacy to them and others affected.
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Now, they (the powers that think they are powerful) are saying that it is okay to meet in groups of up to eight people without issues.

I don't even know eight people without issues.
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Sorry polarbear I'm not convinced, let's just agree to disagree on that.

Anyway I think it's past time to change the subject.
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cwillie, I wouldn’t laughed so soon.

A year ago, it was considered a conspiracy to say that the vaccines affect women’s periods, reproductive system. Now it’s a fact.

Those fact check sites have their loyalty squarely placed in the vaccines/mandates.
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The UK has a much higher percentage of their population fully vaccinated (+90%) than America does plus they reportedly have passed the omicron peak so are in a better position than most states to relax many mandates.

My international web searches tell me reports of forced vaccination in Australia are fake (I hadn't heard that one until now LOL).

As for dictators - they're always gonna trample on human rights in one way or another
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I have my doubts about the vaccine mandates for cross border truckers, it seems overly late in the game to insist on this🤔. I expect the percentage of American truckers who are unvaccinated is much higher than the estimated 10% of Canadian truckers (hm, reported estimates are 40% -50%) so it's going to have a much greater adverse effect on our supply chain than on yours.
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sp19690-how lucky for the people in England

Meanwhile, the dictator in the Philippines has ordered arrest of any unvaccinated people who violate his stay at home order. In Australia, indigenous people are being removed and forced to get vaccinated against their will.
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Canadian truckers are blocking routes from us to Canada to protest vaccine mandates but there is no mention of this on the tv from US news organizations. How about in Canada?

England just said they are ending all covid mandates. Inckuding forced vaccination, masks and social distancing. Doubt the USA media will report on this either. The narrative is slowly starting to crumble on this but I have to wonder what they have up their sleeves to keep it going.
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I have to wonder how much of this increase is due to the National Western. Probably half of the county is there with animals or whatever. Initially, they said they would enforce mask mandates, then backed off and said they would loosely enforce. Whatever that means, to me no such thing as loosely, means not at all.

Extremely conservative here, vaccination rate is less than 40%.
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Different government (Canadian) so all your political rants and angst is irrelevant to me, I do not doubt the accuracy of my stats.
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cwillie - many places are now requiring booster shots to be considered fully vaccinated otherwise the persons are considered unvaxxed. So, I don't give any weight to the claim that the unvaxxed are in ICU and seriously ill.
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For once you've posted something I agree with polarbear. I was willing to do my 2 initial shots and a booster and I'm willing to add another booster to my annual flu shot routine, but I think that this push toward 4 or more doses is insane. Maybe it's necessary for the immunocompromised who don't make proper antibodies, and maybe for the frail elderly, but not for everyone. The overwhelming number of the most seriously ill (in ICU and on vents) are totally unvaccinated and repeated boosting can not change that reality.
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According to the CDC, most Omicron cases have hit the fully vaccinated and boosted people.

https://news.yahoo.com/most-reported-u-omicron-cases-182642515.html

Meanwhile, Pfizer and Moderna are happy to sell more shots, raking in Billions of dollars worldwide. The more variants the better for them. Covid vaccines aren't free. We tax payers pay every red cent of it. And let's not forget, many people paid the ultimate price.
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