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Gershun,

That is so very young to lose your father. I am so very sorry.
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Thanks, Chris.

Hubby is still feeling badly. Hopefully, the stone will pass soon.

I am so sorry to hear about your cousin. That’s awful. I understand how horribly you feel for your aunt too. Every parent wants to die before their children.
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Thanks, Alva. Yes, he is avoiding anything with a calcium supplement since having kidney stones.

Our bodies are fascinating. I admire nurses, doctors and others in the medical field. I can’t even imagine doing certain professions in medicine, in particular, a brain or heart surgeon. In my opinion, they earn every penny they make.

My cousin is a nurse anesthetist and she makes a good salary. She always says that she does most of the work with patients but the anesthesiologist makes a huge salary.
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NHWM the doc will tell you about "prevention", but to tell the truth, ha ha, I don't think too much works. There are tendencies for some to make stones as you will know with your daughter "making them" as well. Several kinds of stones. Calcium the most common and then there are the ones that are uric acid stones. They will give you medication to prevent that one, and they will recommend, as they did to my Dad with his calcium "the milk shakes gotta go" for the calcium ones. The truth is that someone who makes calcium stones will do himself in with popping Tums for antacid (and other stuff with calcium in it) but for the most part there are these tendencies for us. You can look up diets already because your doc told you it is calcium stones. Best thing is understand what kind of thing DH takes that is FULL of calcium (like Tums). Get info from dietician while he is in there, but for the most part, just as some women make calcium deposits in breast that make mammograms iffy to diagnose, recognize that he makes these. Yes they are almost microscopic often, and they hurt like having a baby with no letup between the pains. I am talking screaming writhing pain. Hope these pass quick!
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Thanks Gershun. I’m sorry you lost your dad so young. That is exactly the problem with pancreatic cancer. It is quite stealthy and doesn’t show up until it is too late. Sadly the advances in dealing with it have not been as great as for other cancers over the past decade or so. I feel we have had wave after wave of bereavements in less than 2 years: my dad, uncles, aunts, one cousin already this year, my MIL a few weeks ago and now another cousin in a very bad place, plus the backdrop of Covid, although none of them died from this. I know it’s the lifestage we’re at right now, mid 50s, when this stuff can all come at once. It’s hard to retain a sense of perspective as we feel surrounded by death and suffering. We’re trying to get out of the house more, get some fresh air and reach out to be kind to people, rather than wallow in misery.
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Chriscat so sorry for your latest bad news.

My Dad passed away from pancreatic cancer when I was four years old. My mom told me that the doctors said his body was riddled with cancer already by the time it was found. Mind you this was in the 1960's. It's sad that it is still so hard to diagnose until it is too late in most cases.
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Been absent from the forum for a few days for reasons I will explain in a moment, but first, NHWM, hope your DH is ok after what must have been a real scare for you both. After my MIL’s funeral last week and the associated nastiness from my BIL and SIL, DH and I were hoping to move forward with a bit more positivity and kindness in our lives. But on Saturday morning I received the bombshell news that one of my apparently fit and healthy 50 something cousins has just been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, which has already spread to her liver. All this after seeing a doctor just last week due to feeling generally a bit under the weather. This is a really bad situation. The problem with this type of cancer is that it presents with very few symptoms until it has really set in and spread further. There is very little the medics can do. I am devastated for my aunt who was widowed just last year, and for my cousin’s family, including her son and daughter who are barely into their 20s and who are going to lose their mother.
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NHWM, glad it's nothing serious with your husband and he can pass the stones easily.

I don't handle pain well. Pap smears are always extremely painful for me for some reason. I even fainted during one once. Don't even talk to me about dentists. Arghh! I go to a dentist now that uses sedation otherwise I'll have a panic attack.
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Ugh, stones. Had em. They suck. Wishing your hubs a quick and painless stone passing!
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NHWM thinking of you and hubs.
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Need: Your poor DH! Praying that he gets relief from the kidney stones. As someone who has had 4 of them, I can tell you it's bad pain! Every time I got Dilaudid, but sometimes far too late like the 4th one. I don't consume enough water and I have been amending that.
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Alva,

Yes, my daughter has had to have the larger stones that wouldn’t pass broken up. Hopefully, it won’t be an issue for him to pass. When they measured the stone it wasn’t very large. My husband said to me, “How can a little stone cause so much pain. He’s not a wuss like me. He can tolerate most pain but he says that the pain from kidney stones is pretty bad.

What causes these stones? My daughter has had them several times. This is the second go round for my husband. He had them not long ago. Does diet have anything to do with it? It’s supposed to be a calcium buildup. I guess I am wondering if they can be prevented somehow or is it a random experience?
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Oucheee!!! Hugs to DH and hope they pass quickly!


((((((Hugs)))))
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While Countrymouse is correct, the pain is legendary, I am relieved there is an answer. If that stone doesn't pass they can often break them up painlessly and they will pass, or can "basket them out." Glad to know he is in care and medicated.
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Oh poor chap, the pain is legendary! - but I'm glad it's something straightforward. Hope he's out of the woods very soon.
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Thanks, everyone!

Geeeeez, I suppose that I don’t do well in these situations. I tell myself not to freak out but I usually do. My best friend is the opposite. She remains calm in a crisis, then it hits her later. Me, I start freaking out immediately! Then I got upset because the traffic on Napoleon Ave. was awful. Parking was fine because the hospital has a garage.

Anyway, it was kidney stones. So, they gave him fluids in an IV and pain meds. Hopefully, will pass them soon.

My oldest daughter gets stones too. I have never had them but I hear from them that they are painful. I hope that I don’t get them.

I’m glad it wasn’t anything more serious. Again, thanks for your support. I appreciate it so much.
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Hugs and prayers
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Hugs, Need.
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Need Help, I NEVER come to discussions anymore, and for some reason I just came to this today to read your message. I am so worried for your both and I hope this is a false alarm of some kind. My thoughts are with you. I will keep checking in on you.
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NHWM 🙏🙏🙏
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NHWM: prayers said!
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Oh, Need! Prayers sent!
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Say prayers please. Just pulled up in parking garage for the hospital. My husband called me from work, doubled over in pain. He was brought to the ER. I’m a nervous wreck! Going to see what’s going on now.
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Need: Oh, good - about your grandpup. I never owned a dog, but I have been a cat owner. Our cats lived the lap of luxury with fresh salmon, chicken and bottled water so I do know how important fur kids are!
This was not the first, second or third time that we purged out our attic. A lot of the items are DD's that we are storing for her. I had thought about donating to Purple Heart as a neighbor does, but it's a LOT! Good luck packing.
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Polar and Llama,

Thanks. He seems to be doing better now. My daughter is so good with him. She was the same way with her poodle. That’s her fur baby!

I wish I could meet this dog. I used to dog sit for her poodle when she lived in Louisiana.

Llama,

How do we end up keeping so much stuff? My husband went into the attic with my oldest daughter awhile back. Oh my gosh, I had forgotten about some of the things that we put up there.

I donate to a veterans organization and they pick it up off the porch. Easy!

I have donated to a couple of thrift shops too.

Yes, organizing, packing and moving is the worst part of moving/downsizing!
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Need: How horrific for your granddog. Hope he is better.

Good luck on your new residence shopping. I don't want to move. We purged out a lot more things out of our attic - DH was looking for ceiling tiles, which turned into a TON of sorting. Both vehicles are filled up with donations. Some was trashed.
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NHWM - how terrible for your grandpup. I hope he's doing ok.
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So, we went to look at Condos. My husband and I are not always on the same page! I don’t think that his idea of downsizing is the same as mine. I want a smaller place with good use of space. He looks at a smaller condo as our first small apartment. Grrrrr.

It may be a challenge to find something that we both like. HOA fees are more expensive in certain buildings. We will have to figure out what amenities we want. Some offer 24/7 security, concierge, beautiful pools and very nice gyms, etc.

Some have a very large room that have a huge dining area, lounge area with a television, a bar, complete kitchen and bath. This room can be reserved by the residents to host holiday gatherings or parties.

I like the units with a balcony. I don’t want stairs in the unit. We want a unit that is move in ready in a great location.
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Beatty,

A Chinese crested isn’t the most attractive dog but they are sweet. My friend had one. She was a good dog. They loved her. She died. They have a cat now. We miss our beloved fur babies when they die.
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Oh my gosh, my daughter called a couple of hours ago panicking. She lives in Denver. She was walking her dog and he became extremely disoriented. She called her vet. They are closed on a Sunday, so she had to do an ER visit.

They tested him for drugs. The vet said that she has seen it before. They eat something in the street and they have ingested drugs. So, the vet said that all of the heavy narcotics, opioids, cocaine, etc. came back negative but he may have eaten gummies with marijuana. It is Colorado where it is legal. Anyway, they are going to treat his condition with fluids and activated charcoal.

It makes me wonder about dogs who accidentally eat a human’s pills that are dropped on the floor.
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