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Thank you for the good wishes and tales of experiences. I appreciate it very much. At times like this I gravitate to going into hibernation. I know I will be better when we travel to Texas next month to help out after the surgery.

Her in law family is huge and they mostly reside there. Her mother in law has been in treatment for cancer for 9 months now. I know they will provide help . I just have to not go to the place in my head where if it got worse how would I see those 3 grandchildren. I am just still trying to absorb the shock of the news. She has met with 2 different surgical practices as well as an oncologist so I believe this will be best as they are all in agreement as to how to proceed.

Again thank you for your very kind wishes.
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Riverdale:
My first very aggressive cancer hit me at age 47. I had mastectomy and adjuvant chemo for 6 months. The cancer at the time had already spread to my lymph nodes (in fact how it was FOUND) and was in two nodes. I did not have any problems after that for THIRTY SIX YEARS. I have had now another cancer in the other breast at age 81, last Feb. I have chosen now at this old age to treat conservatively with removal of the lump and watching the breast, no chemo and no radiation. Just had my 6 month followup. All looks great so far.

You lovely daughter can do this. It is much more terrifying when you have youngsters, for all involved. It's gonna be one crazy year but it will pass. I send you and her the very best of wishes and goodluck.
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River - so sorry. A couple of years ago my dd had a lumpectomy (as advised by her surgeon), radiation and chemo. In fact, she is still on the last of the chemo. I am glad your dd is stage 0. It sounds like precancer. I have had a couple of friends who had the same and a mastectomy and never had any further problems. My dd was 2b which is not the worst but not the best. She has been clear since treatment and we pray that continues.

Prayers for you all. It's a very difficult time for a family. My heart goes out to you. Try to keep up a normal routine. It is best for you keep somewhat active and live as normal as you can. From what I have read the prognosis for stage 0 is excellent. ((((hugs)))) and prayers
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Riverdale, I am believing with your family that she is going to come through all of this well.

I will keep her and your entire family in my prayers.
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Hit button too soon. It is stage zero but there is concern it could grow. The alternative would be a lumpectomy and radiation which she does not want.

She has 3 children (11,9 and 2 year old). It is often said that one would prefer to have an affliction on themselves rather than our children.

Just have to find courage to get myself together every day and not spend the day in bed.
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Our family just found out that my 43 year old daughter has to have a mastectomy since in the milk duct of the breast there is a 9cm something. I can't think of thd term. The alter
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Golden,
Great news!
As my realtor said few months ago once it is signed it is pretty much done deal!
Don’t worry about house inspection.
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Golden, sounds like things are moving along. That’s great.
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The document is signed. The house inspection is September 19th so that is the next hurdle.

If it goes well the possession date is Oct 7th. I so appreciate prayers for all to work out smoothly.

I know God has a plan - I hope this is it! lol 😊

It is such a blessing that they will take the furniture. I have offered to my cleaner, who has done other jobs for me for nothing, to take anything she wants. She already has a white wicker chair and stool, and wants the carved wooden chest my mother brought up from Haiti. She is more than welcome to it. She has been so good to me. I have to do something to thank the lady next door for looking after my plants so well. The white violet, white anthurium and pink anthurium and blooming nicely and the ivy and others are thriving. She has been very good to me too. So grateful for kind, helpful people.
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That is great news Golden!
It will go well.
Selling, giving away furniture was the worse!
So great they take your furniture.
Hope all goes well.
Once people give good deposit, there is very little chance of sale not happening.
Keep us updated.
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I truly hope this deal works out for you Golden. Fingers crossed!
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Thanks for prayers. My real estate agent countered with a slightly higher figure and they accepted. It will pay for some of the costs of selling. Please keep up the prayers that all the paperwork etc will go smoothly. I am starting to feel relieved but don't dare till all the paperwork is signed. Deep breaths - relax!!!! This has been a much longer journey than I figured it would be.
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Prayers sent that it all goes well and you are done before winter. Such good news that the offer is something you will consider.
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On another topic, and very much on my mind, I got a lowball offer on the house, which very quickly got raised to something I will consider - and - they will happily take all the furniture, which I was giving away on a Fort Mc site with lots of takers. This would be a blessing for me,

We were planning to go up about Sept 15 to get rid of the furniture and take the plants and pics. They want possession Oct 15. It would be great to not have to deal with the furniture and have the house sold before the winter.

Prayers would be greatly appreciated. 😊
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nacy - you can only do so much. It's your mum's choice too. I took on being POA to protect my mum from my sister. I refused to do a joint POA with my sister - it was either me alone or not me at all. Anyway "Let go and let God" helps very much with dysfunctional families.
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Anti-vaxxers aren’t vaccinating their pets. Can’t risk Rover getting autism. (sarcasm)
The prospect of a rabies outbreak should terrify everyone. There is no cure. None.
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cw - Before vaccines babies did die or had lasting ill effects from childhood diseases. That's precisely why there are vaccines. Grown ups can suffer too - Mumps in adults can be very serious. You can't do any more than bring it to his attention.
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Unfortunately I got a snarky reply, so I then asked him if he knew that his grandmother had a baby brother who died of a childhood disease (unknown) and that she herself had suffered through diphtheria. I'm sure her parents would have given their arms for the things too many people today are discarding so cavalierly. I don't know if it will make a difference but at least I haven't been silent.
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Good for you cw and nacy!

I put great pressure on someone to get their infant vaccinated with measle vaccine and more. The baby's mother didn't believe in vaccines.

Re measles, the statistics are pretty telling when you compare the death or health problems of unvaccinated babies with those who are vaccinated.
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I just sent a text to my nephew calling him a dumbass for not ever taking his 6 month old to the doctor for routine check ups and vaccinations (and that's not the only idiotic things they are doing as parents). I'm tired of pussy footing around this stuff, how are people to know they are being foolish unless somebody tells them? You read tragic news stories all the time about loving parents doing absolutely stupid things like treating their sick children with prayers and herbal medicines and you have to wonder why nobody ever called them out. And with so much information available from reputable sources why oh why are people getting health and parenting advice from tiktok?
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I read today advice (not on the site) to say ‘no’ – just by itself. It said that ‘no’ plus an explanation invites a discussion or an argument, ‘no’ is just ‘no’. I thought, nicely put!
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Hello!

Here is Hello Karma. For those waiting for me, I'm on my way. Have been held up with bad weather (this is not an excuse; there really has been bad weather for thousands of years). Just wait and see. Bad people will be punished. Many caregivers are abused, taken advantage of, exploited. Especially women. Women tend to be more exploitable. If you're a woman, be careful: act in your best interests.

(If it would be too obvious I exist, bad people would pretend to be little angels). I haven't been on AC for a long time. Sometimes I take a look. Has it ever happened to you, someone clicks "like" on a post you wrote years ago, and then all the memories come back how you were doing at the time? Some of us are in the same place we were years ago. Some of us radically changed since then.

Anyway I just want you to know, karma is watching. The list is long. It'll take me a while.

Sincerely yours,

Karma
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Gershun,
Thanks for that song.
I did not recognize it by the title, or the artists, or the lyrics.
Listening, yes, I have heard it before.
Nice.
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Same here Beatty.😪

Wistful tears.
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That song makes me cry 😢. But in a good way.
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This conversation brings to mind a song by Mike and the Mechanics titled The Living Years.

The first verse:

Every generation
Blames the one before
And all of their frustrations
Come beating on your door

A beautiful song actually.
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Every generation trashes the next one. It’s almost comical. Those who talk trash had better not ask their kids nor grandkids to set up their new computer!

Llama, I hope you and your husband’s health situation is improving.
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Sendhelp just described my manipulative mother in law. My children won’t even visit the horrible woman who interrogates, criticizes , tries to force her views on us , and brow beat because she thinks she’s entitled to great grand children. Luckily , my kids are on to her . And she won’t control me . I learned my lesson after dealing with my narcissist of a mother since I was a child .
My father in law was another selfish manipulator .
The only one of our 4 parents that wasn’t at all like that was my Dad .

Sometimes the caregiver is the one trying to resist being controlled by the narcissists .
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Knowing certain things can help a person remain independent in their thinking.
No one here misses the absence of dates on posts?
Because "times are changing" "things are changing" and "we can't stop it"?

It is not important? Have you ever entered to search for an update on "fire" or "earthquake" news, and found you have been reading about an earthquake two years ago? (The date is important.)

Mind control (also known as brainwashing, coercive persuasion or thought control) refers to the way some people have tried to control the beliefs and behaviours of others (of any age, any generation).
It is a process where a group or individual uses methods to persuade others to change their basic beliefs and values.  A group or individual may use unethical methods to persuade others to believe and do what the manipulator(s) want. It often harms the person being manipulated.
The term has been applied to any tactic, psychological or otherwise, which undermines (damages) an individual's control over their own thinking, behaviour, emotions or decision making.
Theories of brainwashing and of mind control were originally developed to explain how totalitarian regimes appeared to succeed systematically in indoctrinating prisoners of war through propaganda and torture techniques.

Control of what day/time it is; what & when you eat, and a whole long list of mind control techniques are more successful if you cannot tell the time, read a calendar, know what day it is, know where you are, etc.

Have you ever heard of prisoners scratching the walls with the number of days gone by? Why do you think they would do that?

I get it, I get what you are saying about the older generation complaining about the younger generation. And if any of us come under the control of a narcissist, we need to fight their attempts at control over us.

When caregivers are done listening, we need to walk away.
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@Anxiety ,

Are you sure you haven’t visited my MIL lately ?

I’m tired of her complaining about my kids generation to us . I tell her times have changed , then she always says “ Well I don’t like it “. I normally say ,” well we can’t stop it .”

Next time she says it , I’m telling her “ Nobody asked you “. I’ve tried being nice but I’m done listening to it , and my tongue bleeding .
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