
Many of us, myself included, come from a dysfunctional family which adds a lot of weight to the challenges of caregiving. I have read stores on various threads on other topics and decided it would be good to have a thread just for this topic for people to share, vent and discuss.
The idea for this thread originated on the thread named "The Caregiver....How are YOU doing today?"
You have the right to be intimidating to an intimidating person when they are trying to inhibit you. You have to show you're not afraid.
Keep your cool
Try to appear confident.
Kick away any insecurity you still have and look for your strengths.
Love yourself and no one will be capable of bringing you down.
Be nice and polite, but don't let any of them walk over you, speak up.
Always stand straight
No one is better or worse than anyone. So be yourself and remember you're a great person in your own way. Don't let anyone walk over you or bring you down.
Don't get cocky. If you take on arrogance they may try these tricks on you.
Don't try to impress such people since the more you try to impress them the more unimpressed they will be.
Looking away or doing something unimportant while speaking may make your opponent feel that he is of lesser importance than the task you are performing. Dousing his ego in this way may give you an advantage when you turn to contest him full-on (establish eye contact, raise voice, etc.) later. Be sure to keep aware while you douse their ego, however, don't let yourself be caught unaware! Also don't run after them since that will show them that you feel like they're better or you can't manage without them. If you walk away, you'll find them running after you.
If all else fails and someone constantly tries to intimidate you, stay out of their way as much as possible and ignore them.
This year try a different approach, do not ask her if you are invited. See if she brings it up. She is probably getting some sort of satisfaction from you asking. Make some other plans for yourself and have fun!
A number of us here have dysfunctional sibs. Better to realize how they are, give up the hope and dreams of a good, normal relationship with them and figure out how to best deal with them and protect yourself.
Sorry I have not been much use - between sinuses and other head aches and tiredness I am not accomplishing much anywhere.
Mother called today about some correspondence from one of her pension people. She doesn't understand it as she says they don't know where she is. Obviously they do or it wouldn't have reached her. It is probably a form letter to make sure she is still at the same address or something like that. I think I need to get the addresses/phone numbers of her various pensions, account numbers for utilities, insurance etc. and have mail directed to me. She just gets confused by it. I should be able to get most of it next time I go down, and she is in hospital. I know where her files are. I will leave her bank and credit card statements going to her for now as I can get copies from the bank branch here and I think she would notice if they did not come to her, and she would get upset. She left a voice mail that this needed to be dealt with before Tuesday (I don't think so) and that lots of money was disappearing from her bank account (I don't think so about that either). I will check her account shortly. My sis wrote and asked how I was doing with mother's expenses and I answered that I wasn't doing anything about mother's expenses and that she still dealt with them, I was only viewing her account to see that all was in order. I am thinking that I should send my sis a copy of the statements I get from the bank. I plan on getting them monthly. I have yet to ask for a cc statement but think it should not be a problem. I don't trust sis not to cause trouble and am thinking this is the best way to protect myself. If it ever came down to it the bank statements could be verified by the bank. What does anyone think? If you are POA do you send statements to sibs? If you are not POA does your sib send statement to you? Looking for some wisdom here.
Sis also said that mother wrote her that she would move to Ontario if she got a chance. Hmmm - still a flight risk. I don't think the nieces and nephews would welcome her with open arms.
marylee -glad things are better and your faith is holding you up. I love the psalms.
sad1 - sounds like you are making progress detaching. At least your mum is getting some of her meds.
assandache - from a while back -sorry that holidays suck for you - it seems as we get older, for a variety of reasons that is the case
Alison - looks like you are getting lots of insights and putting them to good use
Sharon - you have some good family visits coming up - enjoy!
cmag - nice to see you posting. Hope your wife is doing well post op. Did you mum finally have that procedure?
Margeaux - are you and hubby recovered from the ordeal?
austin -so happy for you and your man. I read somewhere you wrote he had a very difficult wife. My man had that too and she is still causing trouble. She is very controlling. He says she did him a favour by divorcing him.
juju - where are you? Are you and mum back home yet?
gladimhere - are you still in court with your sib?
heli - welcome - you fit right I with your dysfun fam. Lots of experience here.
Book – who are you doing?
Have I forgotten anyone? hope not but if so not intentional
I want to explain what I meant when I said, a while back, that I have some sympathy for doctors. It has to do with research into very increased numbers of procedures and surgeries during the last months to a year of life which have been shown to have no benefit for the patient, so docs are staring to back off as it is a huge cost to the system. Now as in juju's case, she knows her mum best; she pushed for appropriate treatment and finally got it. Good for her. However, there are cases where things are different. About ten years ago, before this research, my friend's husband had esophageal cancer and in his last months they kept sending him to another hospital for a certain procedure. He was terminal and everyone knew it, including him (he was a university prof). The procedures didn't do him, or anyone any good, and the trips caused him quite a bit of distress each time. She was talking to me about this and wondering about the value of it. I gently said they did not have to agree to continuing these procedures. They talked about it and decided against continuing. His last days were made as comfortable as possible, and his end, with the help of morphine, was peaceful. I was there and it was a blessed release. In the "old days" my son would have been kept on a ventilator for the rest of his life and existed in an NH. He was already getting pneumonia in the few days he did survive after the assault. We could have pushed for them to keep him on the ventilator, but we chose to go with their recommendation, and do not regret that. It was no life for him. Sometimes less is better. The main caregiver and the individual, if competent enough, know what it best. Medical people have been, to a large degree, trained to maintain life at any cost. With the growing numbers of seniors, that is being revisited and I think that is good. Unfortunately, inevitably, some judgement calls will be wrong.
Have a good weekend everyone! Love, hugs and prayers, Joan
When you see them actually expressing some real emotions, it tugs your heart, but it is such a small part of the whole. I treasure those moments, but do not expect more. My motto is "Take care of you". Looks like you are staring to, ((((((hugs)))))) Joan
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That money pays for what my mother's long term care insurance policy does not cover plus it paid for those back taxes that she owed from years past when she and my step-dad failed to pay their taxes. Now with her medical expenses and securities not earning much money, she does not pay any taxes which she now files as married but separate. Those back taxes with penalties and interest took a big chunk out of the bank accounts. I now wish that when cleaning up that tax mess that I had only focused on my mother's tax liability and left my step-dad's up to his children to fix for now he owes her $37,000 which I know will not be paid back although my step-brother agrees that his dad does owe this to my mother. My step-dad is apposed to my mother being in the nursing home and does nothing to support her financially although he could.
My wife is doing well in post op and sees the surgeon on Tuesday for a follow up. My mom finally had that kidney stone blasted. Unfortunately, she has a bacterial infection in her bladder that antibiotics have not been able to cure.
I do agree with what you said about dr.'s or hospitals (ER) not doing certain testing on an elder because of their condition. We ran into this with my father when he was vomiting blood at the NH. He was very advanced with the Alz. They did not want to sedate him to scope his throat or stomach. At first I was very angry about it...but because of the advanced stage of Alz, I realized that if he had esophagus cancer or stomach cancer...the treatment would probably shorten his life since he was not strong enough to endure it. I agree that what Juju did for her mother was necessary and right.
Well everyone, I hope you have a happy Labor Day weekend. I will be working but have Monday off. Those of you who will be traveling, stay safe!! Hugs to everyone!!
FYI, there is a video trending. I thought you all might like to Google it and get some laughs from it. I have always thought these scary movies were exaggerating when people running from something scary would fall down...until I watched this video prank.
Google: Japanese Dinosaur Prank. Part 1 is the man, Part 2 is a "woman".
When people grow up around dysfunction, this is all they know, and become used to bad treatment by their so called loved ones. This definitely happened to me,
but it took for me to realize it, acknowledge it for what it is, and follow my gut instinct which was it's wrong, FOR ME! Our spirit gets so beaten down in the process, that we then become filled w/lot's of self doubt, insecure. If this happens we become that dog that's always chasing it's tale.
There's no enlisting other dysfunctional family members to do your bidding.
It would be wonderful if any of us could think that we could "stamp out narcissism
meanness/negaltivity," but we have to do this ourselves. I hate to burst your bubble, but the only ones who can rescue us is ourselves.
Much Love & Light! Margeaux
When my mom passed away in March. Father refused to go to the funeral. He's bedridden and none of the family Volunteered to stay behind to watch him. I KNEW that I would have ended up staying behind. And that just pissed me off because my Adult nieces/nephews could have said, "Aunty, I will stay behind so that you can go to Grandma's funeral." Neither them nor my siblings spoke to their children to do this. So, I KNEW I would end up - like always - being the one to stay behind. Bad enough most people didn't know I existed all these years caring for my parents - since they all thought my bro-of-next-door and his wife were the one taking care of them.....So, I called up NFCA and ASKED the manager if she knew a program or association that I can call and hire for the day of mom's funeral so that I can attend her funeral. She said that she will discuss it with my respite caregiver to see if she's willing to use her day off to come and watch father. What ever arrangements (as in paying) is between the two of us and nothing to do with NFCA. I agreed. Respite caregiver agreed. And it worked out perfectly. I didn't have to worry of rushing after the burial to change father's pampers before the visitors arrived. The cg did that.
So, it doesn't hurt to ask. One never knows the answer they will give. =)
Thanks for letting me vent!!
https://www.agingcare.com/questions/reasonable-payment-child-caring-for-parent-161215.htm
We broke up 13 years ago. He would talk to me then about all the things that he was going to do, accomplish, etc. He hasn't done a damn thing. He's still in the same mental and physical rut he was in so long ago. Nothing has changed. He's still angry, and still blames the world for all of his problems. He never looks at himself, or sees that HE needs an attitude overhaul.
His mother is my mothers narcissistic clone, only I was a fighter and he always bowed down to his mothers wrath. When we were together she hated my guts. Imagine that. Someone opposing her? *gasp!* The feeling of loathing was mutual.
The phone call yesterday was depressing as hell. I am no longer in that mental rut, and my mental chains are forever broken. I feel, when I talk to Gene, that his never will be. We fought like cats and dogs when we were together over his mother, I tried to tell him what was up...he wouldn't listen. 2 years after we split, he called me and told me about a huge blow up he had with good old mom, where he flat out told her to get bent and to back the hell off of him. He said I was right about everything. Yup.... Too little, too late. I wouldn't touch him again with a 10 foot pole.
I feel sorry for him. Yeah, he told his mom to back off, finally got one of his balls back, but he continues to allow her to rule him even today, and jumps when she says jump, the poor sap. If he doesn't jump, then he gets the '1000 ways you're a dumbass' lecture, and he takes it. It makes me want to scream.
He once again was doing the 'woe is me' thing, and I cut him off in mid complaint. I told him flat out that unless and until he changed his entire mindset, he'd always be in chains. He's depressed, unhappy, and has gotten obese enough to worry his doctor...but he doesn't DO anything to change his circumstances. He still comes running when mother calls... **headdesk**
He's a good guy in a lot of ways, but so damaged I can't help him at all. When I try and give him advice, show him that there is a ticket to freedom, he blows me off. So be it. I just told him flat out that he was bitching today about the same crap he bitched about 13 years ago, and that if that's all he was capable of doing, then calling me was pointless, because he wouldn't like what I had to say anyway.
His mom has made him feel, all his life, that nothing was ever good enough, that somehow, someway, he was lacking in failing to please her. The woman can't be pleased, but here he is, still climbing that mountain. Sad as hell. Unless he GRABS his life back, he'll be in chains till the day he dies, even after good old mommy dearest is gone. This is a huge man, 6'6", reduced to a scared kid by mother. It killed me when we were together, it kills me now. I told his mom to her face what I really thought about her. It was war from day one.
We lived together for awhile, Gene and I. If the woman didn't call half a dozen times a day it was a miracle. He ALWAYS picked up, always, even when I told him to ignore the phone. His mother called one day, asking to speak to ME. Oh freaking joy. She told me that she couldn't understand why I couldn't have dinner on the table, waiting for Gene when he got home, and why I insisted on treating 'her son' so badly, and couldn't even fix a meal for her poor, poor boy. I proceeded to remind her that her son wasn't working and didn't have a job. I also informed her that while he sat on my couch, and lounged by her pool all day and relaxed, I worked 12+ hour double shifts to pay the bills...and buy the food he was eating...and he could get off his ass and cook his own damn meals, thanks. And I told her never to call me at MY house blathering on about stupid bullshit again, because I wasn't Gene, and I wasn't having it. She told me I wasn't 'good enough' for 'her son'. I laughed in her face and hung up on her. God, she detested me. Then Gene had to listen to his mother about the call later, and came home asking me why I 'always' felt the need to 'stir up shit'. Um...what? We didn't last long, and I booted him back to mother's before a year was up.
Poor sap.
Love, hugs, and prayers for all.
She said that I should be angry, hurt, bitter, etc... Instead, I come to these sessions, talk about my family and I do it with calmness and a smile. And she just sat there staring at me. I just didn't understand her.
I don't understand hints or innuendos. I don't even get 99% of jokes. My family knows that if they want something, they can't hint to me. They have to straight out ask me. So, these therapies are such a mystery for me.
I didn't understand why she kept asking that question over and over. Until Sharyn kept telling me over and over (okay - twice) that depression is anger repressed. I FINALLY put the therapist words and Sharyns words ....and now understand what they were trying to tell me. Okay, I have some very deepseated anger within me. And that's why I'm fighting therapy, myself and my assignments. I realized that I will continue to do this as we do therapy. In the end, I will hate therapy, quit and never ever go back.
I have decided that I need to do small steps. My New goal is to learn to love me. I read an ebook and also online.. on loving yourself, in the preface or intro, that you can do all these self-helps but if you don't love yourself, it will not work. When I read that, I had a lightbulb moment.
I have changed course, again. Hopefully, this time, I am on the right path. Like one poster asked me on YOU, Who are You? if I took away all what people in my life told me about me, and stripped it down to the Core of Me, do I know who I am? I thought about her questions and I realized that I don't know who I am.
So that is my new journey...to discover Me and to learn to accept and like me.
I think this will be a very very difficult journey. I have to force myself to face my past because my dysfunctional family was what shaped me. The fear of going against authority, the fear of disagreeing with the authority, the need to conform to avoid being punished. These are all so deeply rooted. Am I ready? I don't know....