
Many of us, myself included, come from a dysfunctional family which adds a lot of weight to the challenges of caregiving. I have read stores on various threads on other topics and decided it would be good to have a thread just for this topic for people to share, vent and discuss.
The idea for this thread originated on the thread named "The Caregiver....How are YOU doing today?"
Emjo - you have had a tough few months - so sorry! you need a vacation!! Yes - my daughter does have many issues and reminds me sadly of my mother - drinks too much - narcissistic is many respects - but thinks that she is a wonderful help and supporter (not). Her 3 brothers all held their breath at the reception - thinking she would get into some issue with someone - she always does. Ruined many family events! Can't talk to her either. It makes me so upset. But - she is 35 - and still thinks she knows everything. but - fortunately - there wasn't a big issue with her- the worst thing that happened is my oldest son's dog attacked our dog - which was weird. Think all the people and smelling BBQ for hours set her off. My dog is fine - just more skittish than normal!
Paula - welcome and to add to Emjo's hugs - my own! This is a wonderful group of people! They have helped me so much - it was Emjo actually who had me look up narcissistic mothers and opened my eyes to what I should have figured out 30 years ago! You will find great support and ideas here.
I found it odd that my sister did not recognize any of herself in the description of a BPD. I do think she may have it and that her eldest daughter may too. I could see where she latches on to a man immediately expecting a total commitment from the beginning of the relationship without getting to know the person. If she does have it, it may be a milder form than our mother...if that is possible...since I don't live with my sister as an adult, I don't know how she is in those conditions. I do know that we would not be able to live together because I do see her as controlling, but she is loving and has emotions which our never expressed love or emotions...except for the anger and more anger.
Take care everyone, I hope Joan and Margeaux...you get some rest and Sad1, when you are ready to see your mom, you will and the therapy can help prepare you for that. Glad, getnstrong, Alison, Book...hope you are all coping and Cmag, I hope all is peaceful as you go through the will and grieve your mother.
HUGS to everyone!!
sharynmarie, people with borderline personality disorder often deny such a dianosis as an act of self-protection. Evidently, there are levels of bpd from high functioning to very low functioning.
So far mom's death and funeral seem like a long time ago to both me and my wife. Maybe I was ready for this or the reality of it has not hit me yet.
Hugs, prayers and love to everyone!
Hi everyone. I'm fine. Learning too many things at one time... child within..Alzheimer course...self esteem...etc...
Joan~My husband has had high blood pressure since his thirties. He was not put on BP medication until he was diagnosed with diabetes in 2004. He is about 70 lbs. over weight, smoked (but is doing good on not smoking, though I know he is chewing at work), he is not physically active and is taking meds for cholesterol. He has type 2 but is taking 1 injection a day of insulin now. He has admitted to me that he will do an extra injection after he eats a pint of Ben and Jerry's ice cream....not good at all. He is still getting fast food on Friday's for dinner regardless if there is something here at home he can eat. He was taught not to change anything by his mother...she always said that her way of doing things is the right way and if someone does not do as she does...they are wrong. His father told him to listen to me...when he came home from the hospital, LOL!! I was surprised his dad would tell him that! His brother was in the store a couple days ago and he is focusing more on us not smoking (which is important) but hubby's weight is a big factor as well as his portion sizes. I love tri-tip and I can cook a large tri-tip for just the two of us...normal serving sizes, it should be enough for 2 days, but it isn't. I don't buy it very often. When his brother was in the store 2 days ago, i told him I was looking for some healthy recipes for beans. He said just throw some beans in the crock pot with a couple ham hocks, what could be healthier??? Really???? The fat and salt in ham hocks is enough to cause a heart attack or stroke. This is an example of where his family and me do not see eye to eye on things and they will not encourage him to change anything. I was going to cook a tri-tip on Sunday when I am off but because hubby got Chinese food tonight instead of eating the crab salad I had made...I won't make it. The sodium in the Chinese food is off the charts...he tinks because he chose chicken as the protein he did good. I can tell you that the oils it is fried it is not healthy simply because the oil is reheated over and over again from other fries. I know this because where i work, we fry chicken in canola oil. The oil cannot be changed until after a certain # of times of reheating it and frying again...so it is change about once a week. Of course our fryer is probably a lot larger than what a Chinese restaurant uses ( ours is a deep fryer), I bet they reuse the oil just the same. We have to keep track of our fries and at 80 fries we can change the oil...disgusting...wouldn't you agree. The quality of the oil decreases each time you reheat it and fry again. We fry hand battered raw chicken, frozen battered boneless chicken breast and wings, potatoes and corn dogs all in the same oil!!! I won't eat any of this...just think of KFC....gross to say the least. Once a week of treating yourself to these foods is too often. The moral of my post...don't save the oil to use again and again just to save some money...it is not healthy. When I was growing up...my mom would save the grease from frying bacon and reuse it for eggs. Many of us did this because we didn't know how unhealthy it was. I did it too when I first got married but then I found out how unhealthy bacon grease is for our bodies.
Yes, I need to stop to smoking, the only reason I have gotten the patch is because my vacation week messed me up along with missing one day off work when hubby had the stroke so I admit....I am behind right now on my car payment which was due the 7th and tonight at midnight, my payment for the LTC policy will be deducted from my account. I am $100 short to make both. Hubby can't help me because car registrations are due and so are property taxes. However, I should get me vacation pay next week for the year and I can catch up...I am embarrassed to admit this because I usually am right on top of everything. Once I get all this taken care of, I will start on the patch...I know you are thinking that the cost of cigarettes is the same as the patch...true...but I have to be mentally prepared or I will fail. Knowing I am behind prevents me from being mentally prepared...
Hugs to all!!
After her fall she was put in ICU they found she had breast cancer. I was sure she was going to die. For the first time in my life she was kind to me, she was glad when I arrived at the hospital and seemed to need me. This made me feel so good about our relationship, I thought she finally wanted to be a mom and wanted to have a "normal" mother daughter relationship even though I might not have her long. The cancer is gone, she had surgery to remove it and it worked! After a brief stay in a nursing home she left without her doctors ok and with my brothers help. In the months since then I stared going to her place twice a week to take care of her needs, she said thank you to me for the first time in my life! I wash her bedding, change her diapers, wash her dishes, buy all her incontinence supplies, pick up her meds etc...
Now she's reverting back to her old self, she doesn't take meds, doesn't wash, leaves food out & many unhealthy things. She now doesn't want me to make her bed (it's always wet and smells) she cussed me out and said all those things only a mother can say to hurt you. Honestly I don't want to go back, this makes me feel guilty. I want to help her, I do not want the abuse.
So Sad,
Paula
" why don't you die old man?" He and I just looked at each other in shock and said nothing. We were so used to taking her abuse, and sometimes it was so awful, you were just dumbfounded. Back then I had no skills to cope with her. But I digress.........the point was that when I visited them in December (he died in Feb), I asked him how he was doing, and he looked at me and said, "I'm tired, Sher." I knew he meant he was ready to go, and I just said "I understand". So when he died, I was happy for him to escape his physical suffering, the humiliation of his condition, and the mistreatment from my mother. I had already cried many tears during the years of his illness. I'm sure at the wake people must have thought I was callous. Old friends I hadn't seen since childhood came, and we were laughing and talking, and took some photos together. I also took photos of Dad in his casket, which some people find macabre, but I felt this was the last time I'd see his physical form, and I wanted to remember every minute. Now, even mother says she's glad I took the pictures. In the old days people did that all the time, and having seem photos in the family albums of ancestors in caskets, surrounded by flowers, was what gave me the idea. To me it's like recording the completion of a person's life, from baby pictures to their death.
Nobody should do this job for nothing to the benefit of other beneficiaries. If my home is foreclosed on, if I decide not to take the loan, not even Medicaid will toss me out of my mother's home after successfully keeping her in her home.
for the hugs, and advice. I just felt so shell shocked that day.
Yesterday, I still felt it.....but today Sat., it's starting to dissipate.
Yes, I know it will be hard to forget about something like this, but am going to try to.
I think what hit me hard about the situation is that other neighbor of ours, the one that used to share Vanilla the cat w/us, until last Feb. She and P were friends since they were 10 yrs. old, I learned. P, was a very tormented soul, poor thing.
So throughout the time I've lived here, going on 11 yrs., now I know they really weren't on speaking terms most of the time. Every now and again, they seemed to try to fix their friendship, but never could. However, especially the last two years......of P's life the rest of us like R, and my husband, me got it, that P aside from her very extreme health problems, had lot's of mental problems also.
Particularly, R and I had been involved w/her helping out here and there.
I just could not believe how her friend from soooooo long couldn't rise above everything, take the high road and be more concerned about P, in a genuine way. So it's interesting, that now after P died, guess who went into P's apt., to do major clean up, which I couldn't believe! The friend did. On account of the fact that I know about the lack of friendship situation, I thought: "WOW, a little TOO MUCH, too late! This friend admitted to R, that she felt guilty blah, blah, blah! Anyway, this is what for me made the situation particularly sad. Here, you supposedly have an old friend from your past who lives smack dab in front of you,
but she was so removed from anything, and real concerns about P during these last couple years, now she's jumping in.
O.K., Got lot's to catch up on today,
Much Love & Light! Margeaux
After I got off work, I drove to an area here in town that is a regular residential area but only for older adults with no children. They can have grandchildren visit and stay for a couple weeks but the area does not allow adults with children living with them full time. There is a water feature with fountains and a building with lighted windows reflecting in the water. I wanted to check it out for possible pictures. I got home about 9:30 and hubby wasn't home.
I went about my business of logging on the computer, thinking hubby went somewhere...I checked my cell, the landline for messages..none. I tried to log on to google which my computer is set up to automatically go to google but it wouldn't. Xfinity, who is our internet server...kept popping up so I had to go through them to get internet service. I tried calling them for a couple hours finally got hold of someone who said their tools to help were done and wouldn't be available for about 4 hours. By this time it was 12:30am...hubby still not home. I am starting to get concerned, a little panicked.
I decided to call his work #, he answered but could not hear me. I hung up. He called back but still no connection. I called him back...this time he could hear me..I said I thought you were working a regular day shift. He said I did. I said I was getting concerned because you weren't here..he laughed. I was imaging all kinds thinks that could have gone wrong...Xfinity was p*##ing me off, he said, no... I told you I was working a regular day shift and doubling back on graveyard.
LOL...now!!! I guess I understand where my son gets his communication skills...or mine are still lacking due to dysfunction!!
Anyway a great article on here about "The Benefits Of Befriending Yourself"...check it out!!!
The human response to others suffering, by people who care for them, is to be relieved for them (and then for us, Alzheimer's has only one conclusion, that they will have it until they die) when their journeys resolve.
Yes it is twice, once for the disease and once to death, but in dysfunctional families, you lose them three times.
Anyway, we are not in control, of the when it's the right time for anything and we always wish we had more time but the thing is...our loved ones (whether we felt loved or not, it is what it is) are inside our being, if not our genes and while they may be gone, in a weird way they are still with us...
...ugh Denny's used to be good, didn't eat there for 13 years went back about 6 months ago and I wont touch them with a ten foot pole! Ham hocks and beans are good but I would precook them to get rid of the grease (they can be roasted in the oven, while the beans are doing their hour soak while softening and put in the onion, garlic, carrots, celery black pepper bay leaf, all spice and lemon.
The bone gives it good flavor and the fat does too, but when I get done cooking I put it in the fridge and remove the fat that collects at the top. Some people use salt pork, but every meat has fat, I guess we could just use the bones.
Some people just boil the beans and use them even cold like same way you would use boiled potatoes with onions, celery (or what ever) a little olive oil and vinegar.
Greek salad dressing and house dressing are about the same.
I really like your blatant honesty about your own daughter.
It sounds as if from your descriptions of her, you realize that there is something about an adult child taking some responsibility for THEIR own actions.
I am not just talking about somehthing such as drinking either, I'm talking about attitudes. This is refreshing to hear from a mother.
Yes, if you have humor, I say you have a lot! I try to always keep this in my bag of tricks. I've noticed that every now and again, if I've allowed life to become too heavy, because of my own perspective towards difficult issues, then if I start to feel as if I've lost my sense of humor, Im in some deep sh**t! So I get back on track, and try to see something funny in many things, which for me isn't too hard.
If it is for some of you I suggest to watch some real funny movies, or get together w/someone who can provide funny for you.
Good for you that you haven't been to mother's.
Take a break! Much deserved, might I add
Much Love & Light,
Margeaux