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Sharyn,
you cracked me up with the cocoa butter crack, that is my sense of humor, very dry and blunt sometimes! I also have wondered the same thing tho actually, I never cared for white chocolate and why it was called that, wasn't close to chocolate!
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When i opened my email on thought for the day, I couldn't help but think it sure applies to us, as caregivers.

When life seems hard, the courageous do not lie down and accept defeat:
Instead, they are all the more determined to struggle for a better future.
by Queen Elizabeth II
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I'm finally narrowing down the Kindle fire's "accordian" (more like shaking black) problem. It's trending now on the customer complaints/Help! site. It seems everyone (mine included) started a few days ago. That is the same time that the Silk browser got updated. Shoots! One of them said that Amazon customer service said to do a factory reset. I don't know which books I downloaded that was not purchased from Amazon but from other sources. Still Googling for answers before I do that - factory reset.
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{{chuckling}} In almost every Google questions on this problem, Amazon customer service insists on Factory reset. People do it. Lose all their ebooks, music, videos, etc... and need to re-download. ... The kindle automatically goes into update mode. And several people are back where they started - with the problem. Same thing is happening even if you use Dolphin or Chrome browsers. Amazon customer service insists this is a rare occurrence. Well, based on what I'm finding, it is not going to remain Rare!
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I have found a little something that has worked. My mother gets down and says "oh I wish I would just go on and die". She's 8 . Well over the past couple of weeks, in the conversation, my younger brother and I have both said back to her at different times, "I wish I would go on and die too" and it seems she has snapped out of this self pity a bit and is not acting so clingy. She's attending several more events at her assisted living arrangement (bingo, etc.). Maybe us saying that too has made her think, she wants to help us not to feel that way. This may not be the most functional thing to do or say but I'm telling you it seems to have helped.
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Sharyn, I'm not sure if your Kindle is having this problem. But, Amazon found the solution. They recommend that we keep our Kindles fully charged and the wi-fi on so that your Kindle gets the new update to correct the Silk problem. They said to give it a few days. Off to bed, past midnight.
P.S.. above post where I was chuckling - that was info dated on 14Dec. I'm sleepy and decided to skip to the end. Solution was found yesterday.
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Cheryl, I wonder if that would work with father? I almost said it to him that I prayed to God all the time for death, and He also did not listen to me. He's currently mad at God for not letting him die even though he keeps praying for death. Welcome to the club. I've been praying that for years. And I'm still here. I guess I still have unfinished business to do here.....
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If God isn't letting him die, he must have unfinished business here too. I'm sorry he did not listen when you said it. Some elder parents can be are quite selfish, I am learning.
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a few days before Mom's stroke she got mad at God threw her hand upward to heaven and said what is the problem I said good by to everyone-she had the stroke a few days later and died two days later. Book you have done everything you could have done-he probably wants to die but if the pain gets bad he will go to the clinic as he has before-it is sad some just can't leave peacefully.
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Thanks.
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Emjo, the fibromyalgia... along with the mood issues, i also have heard people take the attitude that it is not real, or all in our head, just need to snap out of it this last one mostly with mood issues. It is real and it is challenging to deal with. My thoughts are with you on that and all of us and our medical issues we face in this process of aging! ((((((hugs)))))))

Hoping for a good day today, the anxiety is tapering off for me, I am trying to have faith and just let go, take some of my own advice. I am doing all i can!
My short Xmas list grew a bit. I go to town today for shopping/errands while my helper sits with ma!
Hope you all have a wonderful day!
Peace
Julie
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Book~My kindle fire is the original one not HD. I can go online, surf, check email and there are apps on it, but I have never used them I use it for reading books, and going online when I don't have access to the room the computer is in.

Welcome Cheryl!!

Juju and Joan~Fibromyalgia is very real. I think dr.s are better at acknowledging it today. It has taken 20 years or more for them to accept it.

Gotta run to the bank, icing my hip again...it is flaring up again. Have a good day!!
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Nobody is getting our 86 year old for Christmas, but they are getting her for New Years,
last time she left, (Thanksgiving , she came back in a mess, missed three doses of Advair and one dose of her evening meds which has her BP medicine in it) she came back disorientated and has not snapped out of it, yet.

Does anyone else know of this problem with Alzheimer's, deterioration through a visit away(53hr. window)? And if this is how the 86 year old responds to visits away, should the visits away from where she lives, stop happening? Like maybe lunch or dinner?
i know I can't stop her from the disease itself, or stop her from seeing her children, but the 53 hour break was not worth the deterioration...if you know what I mean.


I did make cookies with my grand daughter today, the powder sugared crescents and toll-house. I have a fake tree, pre-lit and decorations that are pretty simple, had to be
since the stroke...I do not want to mess around with the beaded garland, it is good enough with the dangling ribbons.
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Lwen-
definitely that much time away will cause a tremendous amount of disorientation! We see this in my mom even after just being gone out to lunch for a couple of hours.

I have not been in a good place for several days. Guardian appointed is certain mom is happy and well cared for. Won't be moving her at least for now. But guardian wants to try to begin to mend some family relationships. Good luck with that one! She convinced me to invite no assistance siblings for a meal Christmas, then travel 60 miles, me and siblings to my daughter's house for another meal. It wasn't easy I do not care to spend any sort of time with siblings and kind of resent them intruding with my kids and grandkids, but, oh well, it is good for mom if we can start getting along better, right? Sure, you betcha!

then my daughter dropped the bomb that she has also invited my ex and his wife to Christmas eve dinner. DEAL BREAKER! That gold digging wench that always has to make sure everyone, and probably especially me, how many vacations they are taking, then watching expensive gifts for the grand children. Nopeerino! Not going there. This is about the third time in the last week that plans have changed. Will stay home with mom and hubby and have a couple of dear friends over for a simple supper.

but how freaking thoughtless of my daughter, but I know darn good and well that one of the sibs had her hand in this to try to keep me away. Ok she wins another round, but it will all come back to haunt her, don't know where or when but I am waiting with baited breath!
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I am so very very very depressed.
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Iwentanon~Definitely take a dementia patient out of their normal routine and environment is going to cause confusion, disorientation and even emotional outbursts that can take several weeks to overcome. However, you are in a difficult position because your 86 year old lady has children that don't necessarily have their mother's best interest at heart and they want to swoop in...spend holiday time with her due to their guilt without considering how it affects their mother in the long run. Whether it is something you can stop or just have to go along with, I don't know. Eventually, their mother will act out while in their care...then they will stop because they are not equipped to handle it, don't want to handle it,etc. Your tree sounds wonderful. Our tree is also artificial. I want to get a smaller artificial tree for the kitchen that I can decorate with the decorations my children made while growing up. I will look around after Christmas for good buys on a 4 ft or 3 ft tree.

Glad~I also have been depressed since the last weekend. I can appreciate what you are saying about your daughter inviting the ex and his wife to Christmas Eve dinner. It is a tough spot to be in. Can you go but avoid contact with your ex and his wife...My in-laws one year at Christmas, arranged it so that my husband and kids were in a different room than me...that way my mother -in-law could raked\ her claws over me without my husband or kids present. Maybe you could tell your daughter the only way you will come is if you do not have to be in the same room as your ex and his wife, including during dinner. My in-laws set up a table in their front room and designated it for my kids, my husband, my father-in-law, brother and sister-in-law and their kids. The kitchen is where I was told sit with mother-in-law, aunt-in-law, the mother of the boy who was the father of bil's pregnant daughter and a couple other people. I was subjected to my mother-in-laws innuendo during the entire meal. It was heart breaking and this is why I refuse to spend holidays with my husbands family. My husband does not pick up on it, refuses to see that they do this to me. Whether we will continue to be married once my mother is gone is another story, but I will not have holidays with his family because there has been too much unnecessary hurt done to me because of control issues with his family. It is sad that I live my life with a second plan in place. Do what you have to do to keep your balance and happiness.
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Last weekend I posted on facebook a post that was directed toward my son without trying to make him feel targeted. What resulted was I got birthday wishes from friends on my friend list and that was not my goal. Now I am feeling very guilty and selfish because these people don't know my situation with my son. I am not sure if I sure post something explaining that what my goal was and for others to not pay attention to my post. Should I just forget it? I thought I had set my settings so that my birthday would not show to the general friend list. My intentions was not to solicit birthday wishes from everyone. I screwed this up good this time...I guess I should just keep my mouth shut.
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Just to clarify some things. I get an average of 24-30 hours a week. My job is very important to me. I go in early when called, I come in on my days off if I don't have appt.s for myself, mom or if hubby and I don't have something planned. Out of my pay check, I pay my car payment which is $350.00 a month. I have one more year to pay on it. I purchased a LTC policy a few months ago...my husband resents it. For this next year until October 2014, I am strapped regarding my pay check. When he goes to the grocery store to buy food for the house, he only buys things he likes....jalapeno cheddarwurst, cans of chili, frozen buffalo flavored chicken tenders, bread that I don't like..it is too sweet and I prefer sourdough, ham lunch meat which I again will not eat. On my days off, I go to the grocery store buy some chicken, beef or pork, and veggies so I can cook a decent meal of us. It ends up costing around $40 for the one meal. Hubby does not like stews, soups or a dinner with the meat and veggies cooked together with broth. He wants the meat, and veggies all cooked separately. Over that last 6 months, he has gotten where he hides the checkbook from me. I have decided that when he gets paid the Thursday after Christmas, I am telling him that he will have buy different meats for meals for 2 weeks and I will buy the veggies on my days off so I can cook a decent meal. I refuse to use the joint checking account as of yesterday. Control!!!
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Ask yourself if you're in an abusive relationship. Look at the list below from the University of Virginia, and answer honestly and without justifying your partner's behavior (that is, don't say "Well, she's not like that ALL the time," or "It's only happened once or twice"). Simply answer yes or no. If you find yourself putting down a lot of yes answers, chances are you're in a controlling relationship[1]:
Does your partner:
Embarrass or make fun of you in front of your friends or family?
Put down your accomplishments or discourage your goals?
Make you feel like you are unable to make decisions?
Use intimidation, guilt, or threats to gain compliance?
Tell you that you are nothing without them, or they are nothing without you?
Treat you roughly without your consent - grab, push, pinch, shove or hit you?
Call you several times a night or show up to make sure you are where you said you would be?
Use drugs or alcohol as an excuse for saying hurtful things or abusing you?
Blame you for how they feel or act?
Pressure you sexually for things you aren’t ready for?
Make you feel like there "is no way out" of the relationship?
Prevent you from doing things you want - like spending time with your friends or family?
Try to keep you from leaving after a fight or leave you somewhere after a fight to "teach you a lesson"?
Do you:
Sometimes feel scared of how your partner will act, or react?
Feel responsible for your partner's feelings?
Constantly make excuses to other people for your partner’s selfish behavior?
Believe that you can help your partner change, or improve the relationship, if only you changed something about yourself?
Try not to do anything that would cause conflict, make your partner angry, or upset?
Feel like no matter what you do, your partner is never happy with you?
Always do what your partner wants you to do instead of what you want?
Stay with your partner because you are afraid of what your partner would do if you broke up?
3Evaluate how your other relationships have changed. Are your family relationships and friendships increasingly filled with tension every time your partner's name comes up, or with your partner when their names come up? Red flags should go up if everyone who cares about you is becoming worried or being pushed away by your partner.
Does this person bring out your best, or worst traits? Do you feed each others' best self, or have you seen your attitudes change to more closely mirror your partner's, which puts off your family and friends?
Be aware of the way he/she behaves with your family and friends, especially if she/he antagonizes them, argues with them, or behaves dismissively.
Are you realizing it's just become easier not to spend time with friends and family you've loved for years before meeting your partner, rather than try to get your partner to join you?
When you are social, do you only spend time with your partner's friends and family, and feel alienated from your own?
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My husband would put me down based on income, he would not and will not socialize with my friends which why I lost friends because I won't go out with him. We only socialized with his friends and family...when my family comes around, my hubby would ignore them..not acknowledge them. This is how his father is. He has gotten better. I quit socializing with his friends and family unless he will socialize with mine. His mother supported him in his choices. My hubby uses money and affection as way to control. This is why we are at a crossroads with our son. He wants to give less to our son, he won't communicate with our son what he wants or expects. He favors our daughter...he wants to punish our son based partly on the fact that our son is like me...not mentally capable of earning $60K a year, partly because our son does not meet his expectations. Our daughter is very intelligent (so is our son but he is more emotional), our daughter uses her intellect to future her career choices, our son uses his intellect to be more of a loving husband even if it means he misses time off work to be there for family. My son does not make the best choices for his own needs. Hubby wants a son who thinks like he does...I am getting too old to play these games in order to keep peace. My hubby is not physically aggressive but he does play passive aggressive games. I am damn tired of having to set boundaries that end up emasculating him to wake him up to reality. I thought we had worked all this out...now I have set boundaries again with money so he will think of us a couple instead of it being all about what he wants.
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Iwentanon – Sharyn said it perfectly about taking a person with dementia out of their home and daily routine. Hopefully, by you going back to her regular daily schedule, she might go back to her normal. However, remember, the disease progresses – not improves. So… if she still remains like this 3 months down the road, with her regular schedule, then… this is her “normal current baseline” now.

Gladim, Did you turn down your daughter with a very subtle “guilt trip” response? Or a SUBTLE reprimand? There is a way to do this where your daughter learns, deep down, that what she did with your Ex was a no-no. That you have your pride and will not condone her shenanigans. Sometimes, your children are never too old to be taught etiquette and family values. It doesn’t matter if your sibling put her up to it. Your daughter is an adult and should have known better WHY you were having xmas dinner with her. If not for you, then for her grandmother – and not some sibling rivalry between her mother and aunts/uncles. Know what I mean?

Bermuda, I know how hard it is to be very very depress. I have 2 kinds – the regular depressions that I get several times a year, and then the BIG one – that is once a year. I had the BIG one last year June when I became seriously suicidal. I just had this year’s BIG one this past Oct/Nov and finally slowly climbing out of it this month. {{HUGS}}

Sharyn, it’s a sad thing when a spouse doesn’t believe you about his own family. My youngest sister (even my ex bf), refused to believe our childhood. When we all got together and talked about our childhood, her husband told us that he didn’t believe his wife all those stories she told. My ex-bf thought I was Exaggerating. After the ex, I never told anyone again about my childhood…except to my therapist. And a few nuggets here on AC. Sharyn, as for your son, he cannot wish you a birthday or even refer to it. Don’t try to trick him into doing it. My family did this with me, and it irritated me over and over for years. Until I blew up, and I had reached the point of Deciding to Permanently End my relationship with favorite sis. She was not honoring my religious beliefs. And she was forcing me to see Why my religion encouraged us to separate ourselves from non-believers. As for your hubby…. start saving as much as you can. An emergency fund. {{HUGS}}
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Ok im new to this site...im new to these problems....lets see....my mom passed unexpectly in feb of this year, before she passed we had talked about my dad and trying to get him diagnoised with PSTD...he is a WWII vet, and in the last 10 years he has been increasanly nasty....always yelling and screaming at my mom as well as me and my other siblings 2 brothers and a sister...he has been having nightmares screaming things like "get down" like he back on the front line on D Day. I have witnessed him push my mom a few times...and over the past few years shes had a broken arm and a broken verebrae. Now that she is gone he has gone downhill....i have had him evaluated by mental health and he gas gone from 26/30 in march to 22/30 last month... i am the only one who lives in the same small town its up to me to look after him...he insists on living in his own home and is very stubborn as well as being nasty and mean. I have been trying to grieve for my mom/best friend but have put that onthe back burner while I deal with all the things my dad needs done, paying his bills setting up bank accounts...cancelling all my moms stuff ie credit cards etc...do his grocery shopping, taking him to appts. And everyday i dread going to see him or call him....hes told me to get the hell out of his house and not come back...and i dont talk to him for weeks but send my hubby over to visit him when this happens, who by the way he treats better than me his own daughter! I feel like im losing the battle and none of my other siblings are stepping up to the plate. They too are mad at him for treating them like crap. I just feel Im going to lose it....and that wont be good. My sister & i have enduring POA and we made sure my Dads will is done. I have one brother who would rob him blind if he could. And now i find out my dad is telling that brother that im using his my to pay my bills which Im not doing and my sister can see im not as she also has accsess to his bank accounts. Soooo i need help!!!!
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Sharyn and book thanks for responses. This has happened before, where I have asked my daughter not to invite ex. She blew up, it is my party and I will conduct it any way I want! Na, na, na, na, na, na. With all the sibling issues of the past two and a half years it is just more than I can fathom in one place at one time. Christmas eve has traditionally been with me, Christmas day with him. Just too much for me this year. Last year sibling had celebration and I was not invited, spent my first Christmas eve ever alone. Got out of the house though, went shopping for gifts for mom and hubby to give each other. That was very depressing!
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Bermuda,
Hang In there, this is a depressing job. You are among like minds and moods! I too have bouts and battles with depression, it is not fun, it is almost inevitable with this job I believe!!!! ((((hugs)))))
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Quick update: Well looks like I mite be getting floors for XMAS!! I don't want to say too much yet and jinx it but the new bid came in last nite and looks pretty darn good. He still is a tiny bit over on the floor part but not much, good enough to make it work. Hopefully work out the couple issues and get a contract signed today!!!
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Thanks for this thread. I was just wondering this morning if any caregivers are enjoying this role? Are there elders who are not verbally and emotionally abusive? Is that all we have to look forward to as we age? OY! Yesterday I was so depressed. I went for a walk in the beautiful snow and sunshine and felt 200% better. I realized I must accept a lot of this situation while truly taking care of my own self (mind, soul, body) whatever it is that I must do. Step back. If you can't please the elder, what difference will a day that you take off make? You'll get a breather and find it easier to be loving without the constant demands. Find a volunteer: www.elderhelpers.org try anything to keep your sanity. When the elder parents are gone, you want to be intact! If we don't carve our own space out, keep a distance to some extent, renew and strengthen your bond with God, and friends who support you, keep connected to something you enjoy doing as an outlet: if you neglect that you too will be a nasty mean elder when you get their age. That's how it looks from here. Counseling as been very beneficial in releasing the past hurts that empower the newly inflicted hurts. Breathe and watch Teepah Snow on youtube. Laugh, cry, and keep connected here.

I think that as I pull away emotionally as the crutch for Mom, she too can let go and accept the end of her life. A lot of elder angst is non-acceptance and rage about death maybe. I think there is some wisdom in seeing life on its own natural terms. Help the parent with closure. Maybe it is not healthy to enable their clinginess and delusions. If they make it into the 90s it is time to take stock of the past, stay in the moment, try to find peace, and let go. Letting go for all of us is as important as embracing the moment. The Spirit inside will be intact and lives on. Step back and see the whole show. That's what I have been thinking lately.
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Cherljane,

This is brilliant, you telling your mother the very same thing!
I many, many years ago was with the wrong type of guy. He had lot's of psychological problems, and a horrible drug habit. He'd say, he was going to kill himself. But.....when I finally got it, that he was also saying this to ME, so that he could extract pity, and really control me because that's what started happening in this relationship....I finally after being told this over and over again, said, "Yes, you should just end it all and kill yourself." I'll never forget the look on his face, like he'd been caught playing quite a deceitful game upon me, with the issues around control. Yes, it's good that you realize these as manipulative comments,
Funny how after I made this comment to this guy, this stopped, but I got out of this sick relationship too, thank the cosmos.

Much Love & Light! Margeaux
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Sharynmarie,

Wow! This is exactly the reason why I don't have a FB account.
You probably should just leave it alone. This could get sticky, and convoluted.

Much Love & LIght! Margeaux
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Gladimhere,

I didn't know that a guiardian's responsibility was to make suggestions as such about improving your relationship with your family.

IMHO, I don't think you should go along with this. You have your feelings about this, which are very good ones not to want to attend. I'm telling you, much of this kind of chaos, by my sister exists. Last couple of years this has only escalated, because she became a grandmother. So of course there's been the baptismal, the first birthday parties. In this......there's been her daughter who bonded w/her step dad and is included.Then there's also her daughter's own father. So my sister doesn't like the fact when both these guys are invited, especially the step dad. Stepdad, is father of a second daughter w/my sis too. So there's all these layers. But then get this one........sis has a boyfriend. There's obvious tension w/him and from what I understand, it's unwillingness to be accepting of all this.
Well, he wasn't at my sister's grandson's 1st birthday party. Now finally after I been w/my husband several years, he finally got it that the step dad, was once my sister's husband. He said to me......."I don't blame her boyfriend for not wanting to be at these events." Sure.....because there are not one, but two exe's of my sister's there. My husband finally admitted even to me his inner thinkings about having an ex present. Of course, many people will say stuff like, "Oh, you should do it," because it w/make so & so feel good, in this case your mom.
But after we've figured it out, and the psychological torture we need to subject ourselves to, to accomplish this feat, NO THANX!

Anyway, that's my two cents. How completely insensitive of your daughter!
Have a nice uncomplicated dinner w/your friends.

Much Love & Light! Margeaux
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Gladimhere,

I just wanted to add the fact, that on account of all this chaos going on w/'my sister, and I hear about it ad nauseum, until I slap myself in the face and detach......this is why I decided in opting out of Thanksgiving this year.

Too much damn drama, and I don't need it. Now if there are just too many factors as to why people would show up at what should otherwise be a civil event, and it's not......I at least just don't want to go there anymore. You sound like you're going to make the right choice for yourself.

Hugs,
Stay Strong!
Margeaux
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