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Susan what is a lady Bird Trust? I have never heard of that. Just got done researching a Miller Trust which I also was not familiar with. I learn so many new things on this site or even just new things I need to follow up on. I am interested to know what your freelance business is. Best Wishes
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Good morning,
Better weekend with the inlaws, thank heaven. Kept doing the old times talk. And Charles found some music his dad liked, really old C&W, and was playing it for him and that seemed to help too.

Funny how when I tried t get them to talk about the old days, FIL talked about good times, MIL talked about disappointments and bad times. Oy vey. And FIL told me the same stories a few times during the day, which was okay. I can be patient with that. What made me sad and start to unglue was when MIL went to get him off the couch for supper, and he said where are we again? He also couldn't remember where the bathroom was. But then he couldn't remember in his own home either. Charles talked him into the depends for overnight. I am doing a load of laundry every night with his peed on clothes. So maybe this will help a little.

MIL has a lot of drama, she gets jealous when the attention is on FIL and gets this throbbing tone to her voice. I want to slap her. But I wouldn't. So I hug her instead. But wow. She was always like that though, this is just drama on steroids. :-}

Finally got her to give me all their meds. She kept hiding them and trying to tell me I was dispensing them wrong. She has not been taking hers regularly, and that is half the reason for her being more crazy than normal. One of the handful of pills she takes is an anti anxiety pill. I checked and she can take more of those as needed. And boy are they needed. Poor little thing. If she could just relax she would be a lot better.

Good news is they are eating like little piglets. Since they are both severely underweight I am so glad about that. I will cook three course meals every night if that would help! A cousin was bringing them plates of food and putting them in the freezer before, but I think it was too much for them to microwave them. So me putting food on their plates is working. I was teasing MIL that she would scrape the flowers off the plates! Anyway, one bright spot in the crazy new world I live in.
Thanks for all the advice and support...I would have been crazy myself without you.
Hugs
Christine
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The Google told me this: website: probate-estate-planner/lady-bird.html
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Glad-I think retailers only give free items if you have quads +.
Sandwich-the cribs I ordered are the 4 in 1 convertible cribs. In the expresso color they the original price. My daughter's in-laws are buying a twin stroller for them and car seats are on my daughter and son-in-law. No bassinettes or cradles. They should have everthing to start them out.
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A 4 in1 crib is a fantastic thing to have. Lucky!
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4 in 1 cribs -great gift!!! but X 2 a little expensive. Good to hear you are doing well Sharyn. The reveal sounds like a lot of work. I am sure you will be glad when it is over,

also Christine - sounds like you are gaining the right skills with the in laws

sandwich - keep us updated on what is happening with your mum

Alison - had some moments of crabby last night and this morning, but started doing my floors and it wore off. One set of phones went dead, but seem to have fixed it - loose connection. Still no sign of my camera :( or the rings. Strange. Need to get back to my floors. Still lots to do, but I am a bit tired. This house is too big for someone my age unless I had help or it was kept very well organized and belongings pared down. Neither is the case. Fortunately with just G and I it is not too bad, but with the lads going in and out I notice the difference.

glad - I am sending that info about the narc sis to mother's social worker. They have no idea, but are beginning to see about mother, BUT it was not just mother all my life, but sis playing off mother as well, which more than doubled the trouble.

marg - you know the scene when one narc plays off another with your aunt the battleax and your sis

susan - what a night mare of dysfunction. That comment by your sis rubs it in. I rather my sis just stay out of the way. Her way of helping has been to step in and take over with no consultation. I feel fortunate when she stays away from me. I do not do day to day caregiving, but it would be the same if I did. The first time we moved mother my sis sat in a chair and watched us work, and went home with the most expensive piece of art work mother had. She also had the nerve to lay out some things of mother's she wanted and tell me to mail them to her. She was retired at the time and could have done it herself. Gary and I were working and had limited time. I could go on... Selfish sibs...It is good you are getting the house secured in your name.

Austin - have you managed to see your bro?

juju -so glad to see you surface again. Hope things are getting done.

hi everyone else -whoever I have missed - take care and do something good for you today! ((((((((((hugs))))))))))
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EMJO,
You bet, narc sister playing off of mother! And she was the golden child, could never do anything wrong, sis just had a way of manipulating from early in her life. Started when mom first brought her home from the hospital, and I had been playing on the floor with some of my toys. And mom told me this, she told me I better pick up my toys or she would give them to the new baby. Talk about starting out on the right foot!
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Glad~My mom and sis and now sis's eldest daughter used the guilt, "Do you know how much it cost for us to get this for you?" "How selfish of you to ruin this toy or spill this on a carpet we spent lots of money on!" Kids are kids....
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The JOYS of dysfunctional families!
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Very glad I got my daylong visit over with yesterday. All in all, it could have been worse. There were several snarky sarcastic comments to me, which I ignored. Well, I'd turn my head and mouth the words " F--- YOU!" Which helped, lol. And there was her usual pity party of course. AND, reminiscing about traumatic events in history (which she had no direct experience of, but wanted to go over it again just the same). I got a few things done that I wanted to get done (letter updating her neurologist delivered to him, removing a cancelled credit card from her wallet when she wasn't looking) , so that was good. I chickened out on having another discussion about maybe her allowing in some companion aid service--it was the end of the day, and I was exhausted, and I was afraid of getting her all defensive again. Her smoke alarm is chirping (probably has been for a while now) so I found her 9 volt batteries--which I hope she doesn't misplace again--and will call someone out to replace them today. Evidently she paid a plumber $50 to "fix something" but she can't remember what. I can't get too wound up, because this is bound to continue for a long LONG time.
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Hope so, Looloo! - that it will continue for a long long time, that is. It's that funny quirky feeling you get when you think dear mother, may she live forever… Don't mind me, I'm only pulling my own leg there. I do love her really. Sigh.

"Darling wonderful" brother called last night "to see how Mummy is." Bit of e.s.p. at play, maybe, since I'd been thinking evil-vibe thoughts about him earlier in the day. This is the whole second time that he's managed to pick up the phone this year, on top of seeing mother twice - once at her sister's funeral in January, once at his son's wedding last month. And it's mother's birthday in July, which he seems to think quite soon enough for their next encounter. I asked (because I knew she would) when he was thinking of coming down for a visit. Not soon. Oh? Well, they're redoing their bathroom and there are things to finish off. And they've got to paint the just-married son's bedroom. The bedroom he will no longer be using, i.e. What's the rush? Do they know something I don't know about the bride's health :)?

Be that as it may, the update I now have for mother is that Darling Wonderful son is too busy to come and see her because he would literally rather watch paint dry. I cut the conversation short and didn't say anything unpleasant to him. All of this is only important to mother, and only because she loves him dearly; from my selfish point of view life is much more peaceful when he's not even on the radar. And saying "you are a useless twat with the lamest excuses this side of Network Rail," while gratifying, would not improve relations, possibly.

But Looloo going back a bit, you'd have felt a sympathetic twinge for my sister last week: she came over for lunch, talked mother through her mail, sat with her for a full hour, then set off home with all duty done. Two hours later I noticed mother had a face like a little black raincloud. Turns out sister didn't wave as she went past the window on her way to her car. Tsk, fancy that.
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Joan thanks for asking I did not see my brother for a while-I had a bad fall last Wed and that slowed me down a tad -his wife did go to the chemo with him but did not ask the doc who had to see the pt's. before the infusion is started about his shortness of breathe-unbelievable . She is more concerned about her mother and driving 4 hrs and staying over night to see the new grandson-some day she will be wailing about losing her husband-I husband was a bad man but my priorities were taking care of him. I will call him when she is working and try to see him another day that she works-that should be my husband above.
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Camaryllis you sound like a kind sweet lady who has taken on a lot and make the best of it-getting them to talk about their earlier life is so nice very few people think to do that-I was a nurse and took care of an elderly man and after he died his obit. was so interesting from then I on I would ask people about their life as I was bathing or caring for them-I learned so much and was always tell my co-workers little things like one lady entertained servicemen in theUSO on day my boss said how do you know all this stuff I said I talk to the pts' and listen
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Hi CM what bro dearest does not know but his esp is leading him to paint son's room is that newly married son AND wife will soon be moving in with him!!!!!!!
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Countrymouse -- lol, well, honestly truly?? No, I do not hope it continues! :) Yeesh!
Your sister -- what nerve! Kidding! Next time, I really hope she waves like Miss America!
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In his dreams they'd move in, Veronica. DW brother adores his sons and loves their company. They're both pretty domesticated - good cooks, know one end of the washing machine from the other, for example; but not ironing. Ironing not something that gets done in that house unless it's essential to some kind of engineering project, like deforming plastic. Lovely Nephew 1 and new wife are both engineers and have just got back from 18 months' working in Shanghai - ex-pat salaries and tax breaks, plus a "getting married at an advanced age" present from the Chinese government (!) - at 30, they caused much delight and merriment when they announced their engagement - mean they've been able to waltz into the overheated housing market and have bought their first bijou flat in what used to be a fairly cruddy bit of North London but is (I'm told) on its way. I would say lucky kids except they've both worked their little socks off for this. Not sure they'll have room for any housewarming presents or I'd chip in a toaster.

Looloo I LOVE idea of the Miss Am. wave! Cartwheels and a can-can too, maybe?… the possibilities are endless...
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Rehab, Day 3. Mom wants to go home. I'm not sure if she means her IL apartment, NC, or heaven. The OT, PT, three scheduled meals with other people, and human contact is doing her a lot of good.

I have told every social worker that calls me that I am afraid that if she goes back to her apartment, it will be back to 23 hours of sitting in the dark, not eating, and neglecting herself. She does not comprehend the limits of her abilities. But fortunately, it's not up to her.

There is another woman on this unit who is in the verbally mean as a snake/bully stage, and it makes me laugh for some reason. Maybe because I am used to it, and I've seen it done much better than she can. I hope she doesn't pick a fight with my mom. There can be only one.....
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That is too funny Sandwich...only one per unit, ...let the battle begin, LOL!!
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Sandwich were you thinking of starting a book? We need to see the form sheet!

Don't worry, the social workers will be listening even if they seem to sit there like Buddha and go all inscrutable on you. Best wishes to you and your mother for them to get her fighting fit (if that's not an unfortunate turn of phrase).
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Glad to have found this discussion.
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Emjo,

Yes, you are so right that my sister played her narcissism against the b.a.
But I've realized that she and mother have had their own brand, variety of playing off one another. They never got along when my sister was a kid. My sister was the defiant one. She used to complain to me about....I guess she didn't know the proper way to call it, how she was feeling mother. But she'd definitely feel things mother did much more so than I ever did. I guess I decided to back burner the hurtful things mother did to both of us, and that was by trying to get over things.
I know now, that deep inside I was hurting to, but I've always been more compliant, so maybe this had something to do w/how I would let things go. Not my sister. Then.....I do remember mother complaining about my sister to me.
Since mom was so passive aggressive she'd make comments like, "my sister was too much, disobedient, stubborn." So mom used me as a soundboard big time, for everything. I have to admit too, that it took me a long time to realize mother was using me in her ponzy scheme. My silence I guess tantamounted in her eyes that maybe she had an ally in me. But, that was when I was still dreaming naively, that I could have a mom on my side. When I got to be pre-teen, my attitude about a lot of things would change. It's a slippery slope for a young child....when the parent's messages to them are that they just break our spirits and try to use us to their advantage.
But in any case.......mother and my sister have always butted heads well into adulthood. Things are just basically different now from mother's end, now that she has ALZ. I say, "Birds of a feather, flock together." HAAH!

Well I glad for you that these lads seemed to have help you and G out.
I'm amazed at your great attitude, Emjo because you have had quite a lot of things happening which require work.

Hugs,
Much Love & Light! Margeaux
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Had an emotional meltdown day. I got the book "Mothers Who Can't Love" by Susan Forward and every word seemed to leap out of the page at me. I'm on a grief journey once again as I stand back and survey the big picture of my dysfunctional childhood. It is so amazing the grand performance mother can put on for her public while her true self is so carefully hidden behind her smiling mask of invulnerability. I am aware that I have difficulty healing and moving on because I think I need my anger in order to keep my guard up and keep my boundaries firm around her. Right now I'm just avoiding her. But, I know I can't do that forever. Wonderful, darling brother is her shining light and mother has replaced me with my daughter. Another will is pending. I am determined to stay out of the whole convoluted mess. I'm struggling with anxiety, depression, anger and insomnia. But I'm praying to live one day at a time, remember this too shall pass, live and let live and let go and let God. I find playing the piano and singing hymn after hymn from an old hymn book really helps. God bless.
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Bunnyrabbit, I completely relate to your comment about relying on your anger as a source of strength to keep up boundaries. There are times when I feel that way too, and realize intellectually that I will eventually find a healthier sense of my own strength. Keeping boundaries is a real skill, and it takes time and practice.
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My family wasn't particularly dysfunctional in the beginning when I started taking care of my mom with vascular dementia. But the gaps in relationships have grown bigger. Let me say that you never know the true nature of your family members or even yourself until you go on this journey as caregiver. For me, I am the SOLE caregiver for my mother (5 years now). Most of the family lives nearby. Those that help out are few cause, you know, everyone is busy with their own lives. I barely have a life. Family drops by on occasion to visit for short periods and major holidays sometimes. They consider that doing their part.
The biggest thing I contend with is the personal criticism. I get called on for being 'short' with my mother. I will admit that sometimes I am. I can never get through to other people that day by day, moment by moment you are faced with not only the repetitiveness but the cognitive decline and the increasing demand on you for your time, your soul, your body. Getting 'respite' care is not always available. Family certainly isn't and it's expensive getting outsiders to come in. I am worn to the bone. I am not only weary of the personal and emotional demands but having to constantly defend myself and the choices I have to make.
I have full power of attorney. I can I suppose make the choice to have mom go into a care home and be done with it but the last time I brought it up, family came out of the woodwork to say, "no...don't do that"! Does anyone want to step in, in my place? No.
People who support me would say that I have to do whatever I have to do to take care of myself. If I don't find a solution soon, I may go into full blown depression.
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Hi everyone, quick check-in here. Mom is officially moved into her AL apartment, following a whirlwind week last week that started out with her overdosing on one of her anti-anxiety meds resulting in my taking her to the emergency room (and spending all day there) and a three-day hospital stay. Turns out there was nothing physically wrong with her (I think she ODed frequently without knowing, and she's used to it)... but the doctors there quickly assessed her mental state and they offered to keep her there until her new apartment was ready... so I had exactly 48 hours to get the place bare-bones ready, Chinese-fire-drill style. Wow what a job... somehow between my husband and me, we got it done... got the bed delivered, sheets on it, arranged a loaner couch, brought her some kitchen/bathroom stuff and her TV and stand. Whew!

She really went downhill mentally in the hospital probably due to this mini-overdose. She had the nurse help her call me, and she was asking about my father. He died 30 years ago. Come to find out, she also had help dialing her apartment manager, Jason (did she have his card in her purse or what)? Apparently she asked Jason if he could please take her to the bathroom. At least she was nice to the hospital staff, other than recounting her life story repeatedly.

So since last week I've been spending every day at the old apartment continuing to go through the lifetime of stuff she hoarded there. I have an organizer helping me but even so it feels daunting and like it will never be over. So much hoarded stuff and so much dirt and dust. I'm still caring for two cats over there, and need to sell a grandfather clock, some Wedgwood china and some antiques. I'm also running down to the new place with stuff, handling every bill and making a zillion phone calls, trying to make sure she's somewhat settled, and running her to some prepaid dental-work appointments (that causes me to drive 50 miles round trip). Wow. I am a stay-at-home mom to a nine year old, so I'm lucky I don't have a job, because THIS is a full-time job. I still have to make time to pick up my child from school on time and take care of my own family.

When I see mom, she complains that she does not like the new place at all. Every comment begins with either "I want" or "I don't like." "I want all of my lamps." "I want my plants, you ARE watering them, right?" "I don't like the food here." "I talked to a woman but she didn't like me." (hhhmm, wonder why?)

All this said, it is going about as well as it possibly could. There have been countless miracles along the way. I'm trying to keep perspective. But I'm so tired! I need to remember that once this is complete, I can really lower my amount of contact with her. Her advancing senility has really lowered the amount of depressive narcissism, while she is still nearly 100% self-absorbed, it is almost like she has forgotten to be so depressed, and this is a relief. I hope she can find just a teeny bit of happiness there. I intend to find a bit more happiness over here.
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bunny rabbit i think you need some new tools to deal with Mom before she also ruins your adult life. if you are not already recieving therapy from an experienced psychologist i urge you to find one and if you can only afford a few sessions try and do that. He/she will be able to help you find new ways to deal with Mom and avoid getting trapped into taking care of her when the time comes. you can be sure your daughter and brother dearest will melt away when that time comes. so decide now what you are going to do and find out about all the rescources that will be available so you do not get blindsided when she needs full time care. don't even concern yourself with the will. Any money there is will be used up for her care in the future either with in home caregivers or nursing home care.
Does anyone have POA yet. let brother have it but do not let him make promises to give you money to care for Mom because he will be "saving it in case she needs it"
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daughter52 -- as a supporter of you :), I'm suggesting that you begin to get the ball rolling now on placing your mother where she can get the care she'll need. If you're not getting any constructive involvement from family, perhaps a group email to everyone informing them of your mother's new living arrangements would do the trick. If they wanted to visit her, they could. And if they have any complaints, you can ignore them. Or rehearse a few sentences about how this is necessary and not up for debate, and you're going to hang up now, goodbye. I know --easier said than done. But maybe it's just time to do this.
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So qwiet in here lately, lol! I sincerely hope that means everyone has had some really calm and good days lately. I'm also much on the mend the past 2 days. Is it the new air purifier in my bedroom or the warm up in the weather? I don't know but I'll take it. Just so glad to be feeling better than I have in some time. Hugs to all.
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Hey, ABB. I spent my morning off with fave sis. We went to Macys. They had a 1 day sale. The 20% coupon didn't do much to lower my expenses. Usually, I get these big discounts. It could be, too, that it was my replacement card. And when I received it by mail, it adviced me to log-in to Macys and input my new credit card. As a Preferred Customer, I get these big discounts. I, uhm, never got around to doing it. Darn! My clothes came out to $155.00. I was trying to do process of elimination. Sis saw me at the pricing machine, adding it up in my head. She asked me what I was doing. I said, "process of elimination." She said, "It's on me. I'll pay for it." I said, "Really? Okay, thanks!" Her clothes came out to about $350.00. And the discount was only $8.00 like mine. I should have logged in my new card. My original card that had expired and a new one was sent - I never received it. So, I called the 1800 number, it was sent since March and I never got it. The 1800 rep decided to close it and flag it as 'stolen.' So, I got a new card but it's not connected to my Macy's membership account. Bummer. I could have had another $100.00 discount. After I submit this, I'm going to log my new card into my Macy's acct. Since I'm not paying for these blouses, I had a great morning! =)

I hope you all have someone do something thoughtful for YOU tomorrow, Mother's Day. I'm not a mother, but fave sis let the cat out of the bag. Her daughters view me as their 2nd mama. I'm going to have a mother's day present tomorrow. I just need to act surprise. =)
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Book it is about time someone did something nice for you -you have earned it .
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