
Many of us, myself included, come from a dysfunctional family which adds a lot of weight to the challenges of caregiving. I have read stores on various threads on other topics and decided it would be good to have a thread just for this topic for people to share, vent and discuss.
The idea for this thread originated on the thread named "The Caregiver....How are YOU doing today?"
ttp://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/370-how-to-eliminate-shingles-quickly-and-naturally-using-alternative-holistic-methods.html
Now that I am making enough money and have more time freed up I am getting my teeth cared for better, and saw my MD, Naturopath, bought some supplements for getting my hormones back in balance. 61 and welcoming my present. Whew!
What a difference a year makes! Just getting Mom into a different living situation changed my life, health and economic situation.
I am aware that at 93 things will still change for Mom, but for now I can catch up with my life after being on edge and miserable for three years (which felt like 10).
At dinner Mom and I talked about all the things that we were grateful for.
Progress and peace. Wishing you all the best.
Thank you. I got a few more pictures, and she is very cute, oh I know all babies are.
How great that you can do this with your nieces/nephews, and then return them to their parents, too! HAAH! I hope one day I can do something like this. The only thing is though, that right now since it's my sister's first grandkids, and the daughter is relatively knew to being a mother, they are being somewhat on the possessive side, too. These babies are too little also, there's all that going on.
Maybe when they are older.
How are you doing, and how is your father?
Hugs,
Much Love & Light! Margeaux
I'm so happy for you that your mom has been placed in a senior home that sounds very good for the both of you. Proof that there can be light at the end of the tunnel.
Have a great time adjusting to the new life you have now, really happy, happy for you!
This is great advice, about how your mom got rid of Shingles also.
Yes, there are lots of holistic therapies, for otherwise what the medical community would otherwise love to issue pharmaceuticals to people. Sure, sometimes it could take a bit longer, and require for people to do things such as abstinence, or detox, but if people commit themselves to this, it many times can be very beneficial in the long run, too.
Hugs,
Much Love & Light! Margeaux
I am already taking vitamin B complex with vitamin C and Calcium w/magnesium/zinc. The Calcium I am going change to something with Vitamin
D in it.
My mother used to get bad fever blisters on her chin, big ones that covered her whole chin...this was back in the 80's. She started taking L-Lysine for it and it worked as long as she took it daily. By the late 90's she quit taking and was fine without it. Then about 6-8 months ago she broke out with a big one on her chin again. Urging from the memory care, I took her to the dr almost a week after the outbreak and doc said it was Shingles. Too late for meds...same dr I go to. I was under a lot of stress while in Idaho especially when my daughter hemorrhaged losing 2 liters of blood and her bp dropped to 70/29. I guess I will continue taking the antiviral just to follow through on it now that I started. I see no point in taking the prednisone.
She comes from a super dysfunctional family. She is the eldest, was the Cinderella, scapegoat in the family. She took care of her siblings, with little to no thank you from her mother. All her mom ever did was berate her, physically and psychologically abuse her. So she distanced herself from the mom, a long time ago. She lives quite far from the mother.
So her mom appointed my friends brother, the next sibling younger than her, to be her POA. A lot of info is rather murky, since my friend has been estranged from the rest of her siblings.
So now the mom is in her 80's, lives far from all of her kids. She's diabetic.
Very recently, my friend has been in touch with this woman by phone, but minimally. Well her mom, has been sent to the ER in the last few mos., about 5 times, maybe more for constipation. About a month ago, my friend went to her mom's w/some herbs in tow, gave them to her, and they worked, the lady was relieved. But my friend has heard that her mom, still made 2 more visits to the ER, after that visit, so obviously things are becoming very serious w/her mom's health.
All her mom wants to do is eat in restaurants, doesn't cook whatsoever for herself anymore. She doesn't drive anymore, but has an 86 yr. old boyfriend who lives around the block from her. He's the one who's been taking her almost on a daily basis to eat out somewhere. He of course, has his own health problems, and his daughter lives with him. His daughter is in touch w/my gf, and tells her what's been happening w/her mom, since the mom hides lots of info. from my gf, (her daughter). The boyfriend still drives, and he's been the one seeing to it that my gf's mom gets to her docs appointments, etc. The POA son doesn't do anything for his mom. He only shows up here and there, also lives very far from the mom,
but pretty much there's lots of neglect.
Anyway, my friend called me tonight, quite upset. Even though she and her mom don't have the best relationship, she's becoming increasingly concerned about what's been developing there. Add to this, the boyfriend's daughter told my friend, that her dad was about to call my friend's bro, the POA, and have a talk w/him about how he couldn't be the one caring for their mom, since he's too old now, his driving is getting very iffy, and his own health.
I'd told my friend awhile back about how I'd read posts here concerning, calling Department of Social Services, to report that there is neglect of an elder going on.
She fears that possibly her mother could get in such a weakened condition, since she keeps getting constipated. There's really no one there, such as a caregiver, other than her boyfriend. But he can't do much.
So my question is, if anyone knows, what service/office should my friend contact?
I was thinking my friend could explain the situation, and that her brother legally being in charge.....isn't doing anything, so there is some serious neglect gong on here.
I just want to help her out, because she's really stressing out about this.
Much Love & Light! Margeaux
If you are not absolutely sure it is Shingles, do you think that it could be irritation from the hot oil. Do you wear gloves when you are cleaning the fryer? Maybe some oil even in micro splotches hit the skin, and caused some irritation.
Also, have you considered it could even be caused by the cleaner, soap whatever is used to clean it? Some of these chemicals used to clean kitchen equipment is very, very harsh. Just a thought.
Much Love & Light! Margeaux
When I am exposed to the whatever it is I develop a prickley type rash on my hands. I should have thought about this earlier, but I do not use gloves often around here. Cleanup is usually minimal.
That situation with your grand daughter must have been quite alarming, but it was very good to hear, nothing happened.
Yes, as we try to unravel what is going on with Sharynmarie.......interesting how each of us brings up something knew. When I mentioned the gloves, I was referring more to them in the way of not wearing any, thereby possibly being splashed w/the oil, or some kind of cleaner used to degrease the equipment. So in that case....the irritation maybe having been caused by that. So you bring up a very good point about gloves, replacement etc.
Much Love & Light! Margeaux
"each of us brings up something new." DUHHH!
Margeaux
Margeaux~I can only imagine how cute your grand niece is..a real beauty I am sure. Too bad we can't share pics on here that are secured.
Those are my thoughts. Hugs.
Thank you so much for commenting on the situation about my friend.
Well there is way more to this story, of course. The POA son lives very far away, and hardly checks in on the mother. My gf has an alcoholic sister who has moved in with the mother twice in the last 1.5 year, and stolen money from her own mom.
The mother is a real piece of work too....since she puts pressure on this 86 yr. old boyfriend of hers to take her places, even aside of just doctor's appointments.
A few years back, the boyfriend used to take her out on long rides. He used to take her to places such as Laughlin where seniors like to go to the casinos. But in the last year......the boyfriend's daughter moved in w/him partly because his daughter lost her home, and was having some of her own health problems. Well when she moved in w/her father, his own daughter came into the reality of how much on the aging path her own father is currently in now. His daughter is doing way better now in terms of her own health, and is cooking and trying to watch out for her stubborn dad. He's had some serious health concerns of his own, I believe one had to do w/prostate, then he'd recently had some kind of skin cancer. Of course, her dad wants to act like the macho man, still insists on driving, (which I suspect can't be for too long). But meanwhile my gf's mom,
has him wrapped around her finger, but both my gf, and his daughter are in agreement that her mom's beau is past his time to be the one watching out for this lady.
My gf even told me that the weekend right after her mother had landed in the ER, for constipation one time, the day after she was released, my gf found out that her mom convinced the boyfriend to take her to some cherry festival out in the desert near to where they live. Now this lady doesn't like to drink water, it's a combination of two stubborn elders losing independence, but there are also plenty of signs that my gf's mom doesn't seem to be making sound decisions for herself, anymore. The story of the mom allowing the alcoholic sister into her house, boy does that ever have a drama filled story w/it also. This sister came in and apparently stayed there, (but when she's there she never helps) only there because she's a hair away from being homeless, that type of thing. Then she apparently stole money from her mom, or jewelry. The mom I guess threw her out. But you see, at the bottom of this......is their brother who doesn't care at all, the POA. So there's definitely some elder abuse going on here big time.
So you can imagine, because of all of this kind of dysfunction, and then the mother even when my gf, went their recently and gave her mom the herbs which helped the woman, gf didn't leave w/o her mother being rude, and having some old narcissistic behaviors surface. When this happens, it's always goes back to my friend having been a terrible daughter to her mom. The truth is the exact opposite, so my friend after driving there over 100 miles to do this for the mom left and has only had a little phone contact with her. It's a very difficult situation,
no doubt.
Thank you very much, though.....I'll be in touch w/her later
and I'll let you know what develops.
Hugs,
Much Love & Light! Margeaux
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Margeaux -I was thinking of Adult Protective services, but an evaluation by social services may be better. Sometimes it has to get worse before an intervention.
cm - you sound angry - not at me. I have explained my plan and will continue with it. It is what works best for me.
The SW called again today and mother needs a winter coat - NOW!!! SW did explain to mother that her things are in storage and very difficult to get at. Mother thanked her for the explanation and said "Then it is not just Joan being difficult". Oh dear. I know that she and my sister have discussed at length over the years how difficult I am. Not that they ever are!!! Gary, bless him, said he could get a coat out of storage, but I don't want to start, as mother will then want this, and that, and the next thing out of storage, and it won't end. I suggested that they take her shopping to buy a warm jacket or shorter coat as she has 2 long ones. I have absolutely no idea what kind of winter jacket/coat she would wear so I would never buy one for her. She went to the hospital in February and I would have thought that whatever she wore then would do. She wants to return some of what she bought on Friday anyway, no surprise, so she can buy a coat then.
According to SW, mother says she has called me several times, but I have not answered. I have not received any calls from the hospital from mother have answered all I have received. SW thinks she has misdialed which is possible. The nursing station called my cell the other day, looking for my sisters phone number and I missed it. They left no message but called my daughter who relayed the message to me. I should give them my land line number. I am much more likely to get that.
Got my TSH test this morning, will get hair cut and colour later this afternoon, made out my packing list, going to mail off some of mothers clothing on the way. Yesterday, my oldest grandson and I did a little outside clean up for winter, and also inside cleaning and moving some things to the basement, then I took him out for supper. He will check the house while we are away, clean the frig, water the plants and take in the mail. The day before I finally washed down my cupboard fronts in the kitchen. It was less work that I thought it would be, thankfully. Laundry is caught up except for some things which need to be put away. So nice to have some energy again.
Have a good day everyone and do something good for you.
Mum is out of hospital since last thursday i didnt pick her up as i had apt so brother went so i dont know anything as im sure brother just picked her up and dropped her home then sister arrived from paris so ive been away this wkend staying with a friend went out on saturday for a meal as it was my birthday yikes 49yrs old now!!
anyway while i was in with mum last wk she said "i told the docs that you keep telling me i have dementia????" NEVER have i ever said dementia to her? i really dont know where this is coming from but will find out? did the doc or nurses say this to her OR did my stupid brother say this? anyway im back home now since yesterday and sister gone back so nothing has changed mums home said she collapsed from stress and of course its my fault?? sister spoke to a diabetic nurse who is now calling 3x times a wk to check her bloods and told her that mum had a bad hypo? i dont know when this nurse is calling again but i will be having words with her.
I am so sick of mum now and her lies and blaming me for everything also brother and sister seem to be talking with mum and keeping things from me?
I just had sister on phone and she said mum was FINE all wkend? sis says she seems motivated to look after herself now???????? am so done with this crap mum will be back to her normal ways soon shes just weak and not eating much but as usual that will change. I am so mad with sister as she didnt want to talk much about mum so here we are again everything dumped on me again!
I will now try and see mums shrink as i am not staying here to be abused and have lies told about me.
my sister just spoke to mum on the phone and as usual i listen at the door! mum said "i will call you on wednesday night as SHES not here??" my blood is boiling! so mum calls her when im out? my sister is being very two faced and obviously talking about me behind my back to mum so i need to have this out with her?
am so fed up now and just want mums docs involved here right now i hate her and the lies she telling everyone i couldnt careless what mum says its others believing her that piss me off!
I can see myself walking away from this and family no matter what happens i get no support and things just go back to nothing being resolved?
I will do this alone and get in touch with mums shrink whether she does something or not at least i have told her my concerns.
Right now i feel like walking out the door mum saying how good my sister and brother were this wkend?? enough to drive you mad.
Yep im the bitch and the baddie this family are soooooooo going to have to wake up when i leave here.
Hope everyone is good! Emjo i hear ya with the storage once you start there will be something else she wants!
Jen welcome! youve come to the right place everyone on here has thier heads screwed on its the FAMILY that are nuts!!! I must be the only normal one in my family so thats pretty lonely!!
Humph. I hope you get every penny back, that's all I can say (grumpy, not angry).
It may help to just let them have their conversations. If you have the equivilent of Adult Protective Services I would have them come an do an evaluation. You should definitely consider a Geriatric Care Manager, then you will have an impartial third party to help with the situation. They will prepare reports and document your excellent care of your Mum.
I cannot imagine 10 days off. That would be wonderful. I hope you had fun and did some things very good for you!
Oh! She's absolutely adorable. I do wish we could share the pictures.
The best way I can describe her, is she looks like a little smurf, in that little body suit babies wear ( is that what they're called? ). I'll bet Ethan and Logan are real handsome! What a sweet picture you told about your son-in-law, and daughter the way they are handling the first moments of being parents, taking turns with their shifts.
Hope your arm situation is calming down, too. I woke up today, and I felt like I was itching. I had to think about everything I ate yesterday, because sometimes I have been allergic to this, that and the other. But then it went away.
I did overdo the sun thing a day ago, I Feng Shued some plants that needed a hair cut. Maybe that irritated my skin, maybe some of the debris that was flying as I cut, cut, cut. It was cathartic, so I loved it! HAAH!
Much Love & Light! Margeaux
Almost a good day today then BAM!!! Grandpas old caregiver who was paid to take him to an appt had to leave him there counting on my dad getting him who is on the other side of town messing with papers for heart surgery for a defibrillator/pacemaker in the morning( grandpa says thats not heart surgery)( the person she cares for was throwing up and very ill and had to go to the hospital she said). So my dad rushed home to get him picked up and dropped off. Luckily they didnt admit dad today. Im not driving right now but besides that we only have one car to use. Add when grandpa went to E.R. Friday the old caretaker took him and grandpa said for HER to make the appt for this week for a followup from that for his legs. She has to take him because again, my dad will be in the hospital and isnt suppose to drive until 2 weeks. Hes mad about his appts being in the 2 weeks dad cant drive and he has to pay someone. Well, I know hes trying to save as he says for us but he needs to worry about him! Use it on rides and clothes and help for himself!!!! Im applying for a job tonight but mentally idk if I can do this, but mentally if I dont there's only one direction I will go. But we dont know if she made it and he said meanly" whos my caretaker you are" Ummm,,,, Yes, but Im not suppose to be 24/7!!! I know Im family but when I cant take him and dont know her schedule and he said for her to call then denies it! He keeps calling yelling at us saying he has no one to take him( he wont hire permanent people to take him!!!) and that he has to be there Friday well yes a followup that someone schedules an appt with but again....Well dad said he will cancel his heart surgery so he can get grandpa to his appt and grandpa hung up on him! I mean omg!
Lets add my sis is coming home supposedly tomorrow and her room isnt ready which is actually my room which is a storage room at the minute since Im at grandpas. Add one of my friends kinda family in law, is having serious issues in her life, my kids are fighting, no job and I got my flu shot and it makes me soo tired but yet I have so much to do!!!
I love you all and hope you all are doing well, I been reading and I hope everyones health issues, moms, dads, etc get better. Sorry about all your family issues for those who are having them...
Welcome to our thread.
Many of us here with a very similar background, of the responsible child,
and mother/father favoring the others. I have the very same dynamics in my family. This sounds like a very interesting book.
O.K., do come back and join us, it's a great community.
Much Love & Light! Margeaux
I guess I'll try to take him into the ER tomorrow for the needed meds. His BP was 187/96 and I am definitely concerned for him, but he has these days where he is so ornery and it's too much to take on those days that I am a slave to his needs and also his object to verbally abuse. I think more and more all the time about leaving here. The home nurse said that my father needs more oversight, that weekly home nurse visits are needed. I agree 100%! I've been trying to tell my father's PCP docs this for years but they don't get it that he is actually posing some danger to himself and doesn't seem to be able to complete the tasks of taking his meds as directed, using his inhaler, changing his catheter bag, keeping the cath clean, etc. He either doesn't care or his basic medical responsibilities are too confusing to him and I've never really decided which is the case - maybe a bit of both. This is a man with a bad, phlegmy cough, a COPD diagnosis, and still smokes daily after countless warnings from nurses and doctors that continuing to smoke will dramatically shorten his life.
Talked to my ex boyfriend (on and off 12 yr relationship) tonight for awhile about what I am going to do. What my options are, what are some ideas for a plan... He is one of the most level headed people I've ever known and I'm grateful that he remains a friend. And anyway, the only thing we concluded after an hour of talking about different possibilities is that I need to get my hair done and take a train into the city and take myself to lunch. :-) He's right. I'm completely falling into the abyss of giving up because my daily existence is frustrating and I have no answers for the future. The best thing I can do right now is to invest in feeling positive and good about myself again and then I can figure a workable plan. That's the idea, anyway.
Rambling thoughts. It's good to be posting. Big hugs to all.