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I think sis overestimated your mom's cooperation. Can you honestly say with the way your mom has progressed in her dementia, that she will actually do all 3 in one day? Sharyn, your mom will be inside the MRI. I hope she can keep still. And if she does, then I don't see any problems with doing her bloodwork. If she did not behave during MRI, will she behave long enough to sit still while they poke her with a needle to take her blood? By the time it's the eye appointment, your mom will most likely be out of patience with sis and all the medical stuff. I think sis thinks mom is NORMAL! A normal person will have no problem doing all 3 in one day. If sis insists on doing this, I think it would be best that you go, Sharyn. Between the 2 of you, mom likes you more. When mom gets frustrated, your sis will end up aggravating her. You will be the one to be able to calm her down. You know how mom is right now. If you think she can do all 3 in one day, then go for it.
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Book~I am using my new computer and the post I just posted didn't get posted, Lol!! I will try again. I honestly don't know. My mother has claustrophobia and prior to dementia she had to be sedated for MRI's on her knees. Of course we went to Stockton where they had an MRI machine that was not enclosed. My sister is handling this, she insists on taking her that day. The MRI is the first of 3 appts. all scheduled an hour apart. I am hoping that because mom is hard of hearing, that if we remove her hearing aids that she won't hear all the noise.
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I guess we will know on the 20th! Now I will be on pins and needles waiting to hear from you about mom''s busy day! I sure do not envy you all - at all!!! =)
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You are right Book! Thank you for pointing that out. The more I am around my sis, I see that she (not trying to dis her all the time, but she is not a nurturing person). has trouble with nurturing because she is so black and white in her thinking. When it comes to children and dealing with dementia, she can't see the gray areas that are necessary when dealing with their issues. You are right, I am being selfish in letting my sister deal with this by herself only to prove a point. I will go. I know my mother better than she does and I don't want mom to suffer a set back because sis wants to call the shots here. Sis is thinking of getting it all done at once so she won't have to come back to our city till the next week if even then. It's not that sis thinks mom is normal, she just wants things on her time schedule. Thank you for talking with me tonight, you are a great friend in being honest with me!! I will leave a message on sis's phone tomorrow. Hugs and love to you!!
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I'm glad. I was worried about your mom and sis with you NOT there to run interference. The same had happened with mom. Mom and I never were close before the dementia. And it was still the case during the dementia. However, SIL was very good with her. She knew how to deal with mom's anger. Mom scared me and when she got angry, I froze in fear. SIL is a big woman. She's not scared of my small mom. So, I was always grateful when SIL took off from work to escort me and dad with mom to her appointments. SIL is like you, Sharyn. Mom may have accused SIL of stealing from her, and showed her hatred, but SIL just shrugged it off and continued to patiently cajole mom to do what is necessary for the appointment. Father and I - well he had no patience and I was scared of her.

I hope it all works out smoothly like sis is thinking of. I'm still trying to figure out how you can get mom to stay still in the MRI for atleast 20 minutes? You can't really give her meds because she will be getting bloodwork afterward. What is your mom's favorite food or activity? Well, her Current favorite because with her dementia, she will be forgetting those too. But, what's her current favorite? Maybe use this as a bribe for her to behave during the MRI???
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(((((alabama)))) I am sure you will be relieved when the court stuff is finished. I know it s hard coming from a crazy family
thanks margeaux - I still haven't heard anything - may try calling someone else tonight
sharyn - let us know how it goes with your nephew - so hard on everyone. Hopefully the hospital will have had other alz patients in the MRI machine and have a process for dealing with them. I agree that 3 appointments, though convenient for your sis, may not be realistic for your mum, Let us know if you end up going too - it might help. Sorry the hear that you are not happy because of work. I agree your sis does not sound like a nurturing person. - maybe has some of your mum in her
welcome shootme - ((((hugs))))) sounds like you have been through a lot. I think most of us here understand the dysfunctionality. Getting over it while caregiving is difficult as there are so many triggers. For me it is a lifetime process. Grieving the childhood and family you needed but really never had is an important part of healing. I know I will never do anything well enough for my mother - just the way it is. Better to grieve the loss and accept it as well as you can.
dabs - I am so sorry about your son. I lost my youngest son10 years ago. I agree that continuing to do things in his name helps.
book - wow you have some horrible stories! sounds like your mum is declining a bit with needing to suction her more. Some good ideas for sharyn
burned -sorry you have been going through such a hard time - I agree with beck in wondering if bringing another child into your already very stressed life is a good idea
fraulein - that is very scary about your brother - glad your sibs are doing an intervention. Yes, you have to make sure that your mum is well cared for.

I have my oldest grandson here doing some chores for me for a few $$$. After I will take him out for a hamburger. He is a very nice young man.:)
♥, hugs and prayers for everyone
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Burned: By what I"ve been able to pick up here, it sounds like you've got more than enough on your plate right now. If you were to get pregnant, your stamina would tank for awhile, and then who'd do the care giving. Not only that, but another child, although they're all a blessing, would only complicate things more. The burdens you're shouldering a already tough. My prayers are with you all.
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sharyn: My mom had a terrible time with her MRI's. She became so agitated with the first on that they had to stop it. Mom was frightened and insisted that because there wasn't anything wrong with her that the machine was what would make her sick.
Removing the hearing aids may help some, but it all depends on what kind of day she's having overall. I'll be thinking about you on the 20th.
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Sharyn, I think Book has a good idea with a possible bribe with whatever food or treat she likes. Emjo made a good point about hoping the hospital has had prior Alz patients to deal with. Not all reg. hospitals or medical care facilities are geared for working with Alz patients. It might be good for you to go with your mom to ease her concerns or her being anxious.

I used to have Med. POA for my mom and always took her to ALL appts. she was at ease with me. My bro, somehow, changed the Medical POA to him and my sis. My mom had to go to the podiatrist last week and asked me to go with her. I always explain what is going to happen and what to expect. She may not understand everything. So, I know how to calm most of her fears. My sibs aren't the nurturing types. I know my mom VERY well as she has lived with me in the past. My sibs are just learning things about her and how to deal with her. I don't know to what extent your mom's Alz is but she will probably do better with you by her side, too. Blessings.

Hi all, I haven't posted a lot lately but I think of you all and pray for each of you and the ones you care for. I read constantly but I sit in the background admiring all of you for the care you give and the way you give of yourselves on a daily basis as the in home caregiver or as the caregiver with the person at a facility. I've been on both sides and know it is a difficult situation to be in. Blessings to ALL!!!!
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Thank you dabs, Yogi, Book, and Joan!! I talked with sis this morning. She said she will call the neurologist on Tuesday (Monday a holiday) to see if they will prescribe a sedative.She still insists she can take care of this on her own because she said, "You do so much already, I want to do this to help you." I will go to the hospital anyway. I will get ear plugs for her if they will let her wear them. Every one of you have posted good advice and I really appreciate it.

Dabs, I am very sorry for the loss of your son. It is a great idea to honor them as you mentioned. I have not lost a child which I know and understand is very painful. I honor my father in different ways such as cooking foods he grew with in N. Ireland, visiting him on St. Patrick's Day with potted Shamrocks, his birthday which I took my mom with me this year since I knew she had not been out in a year or so due to the dementia.
Yogi, I read on another thread where you are seeing your mother now. That is absolutely the greatest news!! I am so happy for you and your mother. Keep us posted about your visits with her.
Alabama, keep us posted on the appeal regarding your mother. It must be very hard what you are going through.
Book, I want to thank you again for your time last night in helping me see things more clearly!!

I will let you all know about my nephew as I am given information. My brother and sil are in upper management and hoped to retire the end of this year. My brother told me he thinks they should retire sooner so they can spend more time with their son. I don't ask them for a lot of information because I know it is very hard for them to talk about it, but sis and I have open communication with them and they will let us know as they feel the need. The young man went to Lake Tahoe last weekend with his wife and friend as a last hurrah but I am hoping he has some more weekends to celebrate life before he becomes bedridden. Thank you for your prayers and thoughts it means so much to love and support from everyone. Love and hugs to all of you♥!
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Ladee,Just stop by to say hello and to tell you how much I admire you for the helpful answers,johnnycares
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I became a caregiver to my husband at an early age which is a daily struggle. I thought I would become my parents caregiver. I loved my parents and believed they loved me. At 44, through a terrible tragedy, I learned they did not love me, and since then I've chosen not to have a relationship with my parents and sisters. Going to Al-Anon opened my eyes that I grew up in a toxic shaming family. Secrets, dishonesty and conditional love was my experience. My father protected the abuser, my mother, and played the good guy. What I never saw was my father's simmering unspoken anger at me for problems I had when I was 20-21. They took legal action and tried to destroy my family. They Irreparably damaged my relationship and her step father's relationship with our daughter. It continues through today with them telling my daughter that her step father is a loser and that my life would be wonderful without him. What I will always be grateful for is that I was forced to see my family for what they are, and not what I tried to believe them to be. I'm no longer am a participant in their shaming, critical and punishing system. After 10 years of grieving, I am finally at peace with my decision not to care for them in their old age.
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Today while talking with my dad on the phone, he asked if my mother has ever said why she left him 52 years ago when I was 3 years old. This is really weighing heavy on his mind lately, for he has asked this before.

He told me some more information about that day which he had not told me before. They were in the process of putting wall paper up and my mother asked him for the car the next day so she could pick up more wall paper. So, he got a ride to work thinking nothing of it and why would he of for the previous day had been just fine. When he returned from work that day, he finds this note from her that he can find his car at the airport.

I've tried looking at this from various perspectives like the sociology of families and family types which were greatly different for these two; northern and southern; Presbyterian and Roman Catholic; etc. Each of those shed varying degrees of light on everything, but none are sufficient.

It is a mystery that I've never asked my mother about although I know she carries a lot of hate toward him which she wanted me to absorb, wanted him to never visit me, plus told me that he had died, but had no explanation for how come he was visiting me. My dad on the other hand has never had a negative thing to say about my mother and when I got older, he started telling me more facts about things, but now at 87 he is trying to make piece with his past and this is the one point that is unresolved.

My wife and I talked about this tonight. We came to the conclusion that possibly the key is in one major theme of my mother's life. She has always run away from stress. Mom and dad had barely been married a year when I was born. She wanted me raised with the help of servants like she was. He wanted me raised as an all american boy, whatever that means, When visiting his side of the family, she reacted strongly against them saying how much I looked like that side of the family to the extent that she said I was a ___ baby, her side of the family not a ___ baby, my dad's side of the family.

My wife and I think that mom just flipped out and ran. Years, later she flipped out and ran off to the beach house for months at a time while married to my step-dad after I graduated from high school and left for college. Before that, her work experiences were full of examples of her just getting flipped out and running away. I could go into writing about my childhood which I've done here from time to time, but I don't think it really applies to helping my dad make peace with that divorce which at 87 still haunts him like a ghost from the past.

My dad also told me tonight that her mother's pastor told dad that my mom had chosen the lesser of two evils in leaving him whatever that means.

Thanks for listening to my rant. I wish that I could help my dad come to terms with this.
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Hi Thirsty, I’m sorry that your dysfunctional family succeeded in damaging your relationship with your daughter. I’m glad that you finally found peace with this. I wonder…did you post here using another name? I recall a person with a similar situation like yours. She was being so torn inside with the betrayal of her family after all she did for them. If it’s you, I’m glad that you have finally found peace with the life you have now and not the life that “could have been.” If it’s not you, then know this, that there is another woman on this site who went thru just like your situation. I’m so sorry and yet am glad that you finally found peace. HUGS!!! Sincerely, Book
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Cmag, can I ask you a question? Have you ever really sat down and spoke to your father of the life you had with your mother? I think with his trying to find closure, you can go back to reminiscing on your life with her. Just as you did just now but not so obvious. Tell him your story with the good (things she did that brings you good memory) and the bad (the times when it got tough, how she would stop and leave.) Maybe if you did this roundabout child hood reminiscing your father will maybe have an idea of how your mother is. He will see a pattern. But if you think that this will just bring more questions from him, then, I just don't know...Maybe (if you guys are huggers) just give him a hug and say that mom has never told you why she left. That you have always wondered why but never asked. And then counteract this with the good memories you have of him. I'd bring a photo album if you have any. It's so sad that he needs to closure on that relationship and he may never get it. HUGS!!!
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Haven't been here for a while and see that so much is happening in your lives. Sending you love and support, and hugs across the miles today for everything that everyone here has to deal with today.
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Thanks book, I had not thought about sharing how my mom also would turn and leave me in times of stress. She constantly let me down, but my dad never did in that sense, but he is a hard driving perfectionist. Last winter I made him a DVD with music and subtitles of all the photos taken of me and him on various visits and trips from 1960 something to 1984. It was an hour long movie. It took a long time to scan all of those slides and used Microsoft movie maker in my computer to create what became a DVD.

It is not unusual for a elderly person to review their life and try to come to terms to with things. They either conclude that overall they had a good life or end up in despair thinking their life was in vain.

I get the impression that at 87, he is content with everything about his life as a whole, but that one thing. I think he is basically living for three reasons. 1. To care for his dying wife whose pulmanory fibrosis continues to worsen. 2. To see me and my family one more time before he dies. 3. To make peace with his divorce.
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Emjo, I don’t know how terrible my childhood is. But the ones I do remember, I don’t think it’s too bad. Of course, for my younger sisters and I to have blocked out our childhood shows that it must be really really bad. I was a scaredy cat. When brother told me that father did some terrible things to mom, I did not have the nerve to ask what he did. I just cannot deal with the past while caregiving for them. Or else, I will pack up and leave. ..and you are right, mom is getting worse. I can tell from her coughing that she’s getting weaker. Her body is shutting down. And father’s senility is going fast too. I really, really hate caregiving! Everyone looks to me to make decisions and I have no legal authority over either one of them. Nor do I have the experience. I come here on AC to find as much info as I can....By the way, how is each of Gary's family doing?

Grandson appreciates all the money he can get. It will be spending money for whatever he wants to get or go out with friends. I remember being poor with no money. I would skip lunch and keep the money so that I can buy a coveted toy. Every morning, I would search the playgrounds for fallen coins. Walking on the road from the bus stop to the house, I was looking for coins. Then, when I got enough money, I take the bagful of coins and buy the xmas nativity scenes that I was saving up for months.

Margeaux? Where are you? Has your husband taken the computer again?
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Cmagnum- similar story in my family. My grandfather left for work one day, and did not return. My grandmother was pregnant with their fourth child. We all knew this, but it was never discussed. She remarried later in life, but why he left haunted her. Years later, with the help of the internet, I found him. My father re-connected with him. He did tell him several times that my grandmother always wondered why he left. He would never respond. About five years later, my mother got suddenly very ill. It was a life threatening situation. Just as before, my grandfather faded away when my father could have used his support. I came to the conclusion that this was his personality. My dad accepted this. He still maintained a relationship, but never a close one. I would say my grandmother never got closure on why he left. I know it always bothered her. i always felt bad that my curiosity on the web might have brought her any pain, though lshe said it did not. She never said anything really bad about him, which of course she could have. I think there are some things you cannot give to your loved ones. This is probably one of them. Sounds like you are a good son, and you have let him know how much you love him. That probably gives him more comfort than any rationale from your mother would. Realistically, anything she has to say would not be helpful as she would likely not take any responsibility and would lay it all on him. The little my grandfather said about it, it was clear he took no responsibility for what he had done.
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((((thirsty)))) I am sorry for the way your family has treated you, and that your daughter doesn't know the truth. I do understand your decision to cut ties with them Also very sorry to hear that your husband is not well. Do come back and share more. i am sure it must be very difficult for you.
cmag - that is very good insight from mywitsend. As much as there may be some things you can say, as book suggests, that could help to some extent, your dad may never have the answers that he is seeking. Some things are not easily "fixable". I like what mywitsend says about taking responsibility - sounds like your mum was not good at that. Have you decided on how to deal with it?
susan - you are sounding a lot better than you were. Thanks for the love and support. I am so glad that your life took an upturn.
hi book - if you read my post again, I didn't say your childhood was terrible, I said that you had some horrible stories - the stories of abuse of children. However I know you have written before that your childhood wasn't great. I think I understand that you could not cope with knowing more about your childhood while caregiving your parents. Just the caregiving is traumatic enough. Seems they both are declining noticeably. You must have mixed emotions.
My grandson is a saver, actually, he handles his money well. It will not go on "toys". I am proud of the way he handles his money. A little proud grandma story - when he got his first paycheck for his first job, he put most if it in the bank, then spent a little on some clothes for himself from the thrift shop, and finally bought a small gift for his little brother and one for his little sister. It is one reason why I don't mind hiring him to do things. Nothing much different around here otherwise. I will know more about Gary's family when he gets back from his business trip later in the week.
mywitsend - that is quite a story about your grandfather, and hard to understand why anyone would do such a thing. Your grandmother sounds like such a dear.
yogi, It is so great that you are seeing your mum again - answers to prayers!!!
Hope everyone has a good week. More snow here - ugh! but the temperatures are not too bad. Gotta get to some inside chores today.
♥, hugs and prayers Joan
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Hi Everyone,

I must catcfh up reading everyone's situations. I've been w/o our computer as my husband took it w/him on this last trip out of town, and he is returning tomorrow.
I've been able to use my neighbor's computer, but I just log in and check the very necessary, but don't want to monopolize it. I'm grateful I can do that. There's nothing like having one's own computer at home. Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know, that I've had to read some posts very quickly on acount of this.
I'm so glad my husband is coming home tomorrow, I've certainly missed him.
So, just wanted to say, "Hello." I'll be back very soon. Miss all of you! Much Love & Light! Margeaux
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I had to place my father in the hospital last week. Everything was breaking down; kidneys, colostomy, memory worsened quickly, pain throughout his body, his BP and sugar were all over the place, the list just goes on! Our doctor spoke with us and told us his good as well as ours, it was time to place him a nursing home. He now required more help than we could possibly handle.
He was released this past weekend to a skilled rehab/nursing home, where he stayed last summer after double pneumonia and congestive heart failure. It was like going home for him. He loved it there and the staff enjoyed him as well. As soon as in was brought in on the gurney, everyone was welcoming back (by name), the nurses were fussing because he was not on a certain hallway and wanted him back on their hall and he was getting high fives and hugs from everyone.
I really like this place and would recommend it to anyone needing care. Even some of the residents were there that he remembered and he kept wandering back to his old room, because he thought that was where he belonged. His old room mate would talk with him and then call for the nurse to gently guide him back to his new room. They are trying to work on getting the two of them back together again.
The administrator came up, gave me a hug and told me not to worry; that we had done all we could and now it was their turn. She told my husband and me to take a trip somewhere for a while and just relax, that we'd earned it.
You can't ask for better help and caring than that.
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MyWitsEnd and emjo, thanks for your insights. Now that you mention the word responsibility. Not taking responsibility was also part of her troubled work history. It was always totally the other person's fault. My wife and I think at the very bottom of things, my mother was just not ready to face the responsibilities of marriage and parenthood. So, she abandoned him, took me to live with her parents where their servants could take care of me and her as well as absorbed me into herself to meet her needs while never meeting my emotional needs, etc. Now that I think about it, I think running home was also an act of not taking responsibility for her own actions unlike her sister who did not run back home with her three children when she got divorced. That might be over analyzing?

Hi, Margeaux, nice to see you back online.

Love, prayers and hugs to all.
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Hi everyone,

Mamoogins, I am happy to hear you are feeling good about the snh your father is in. Now you and your husband can enjoy time together. If a trip is what you want by all means go for it, you deserve it and will have peace of mind knowing your father is being taken care of.

Good to hear from you Margeaux!

Just an short update: My brother sent an email, his step son is in hospice. Brother and sil are not going to work right now, doing everything they can to be supportive of their son and dil. Take care everyone!!
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Hi Margeaux - good to see you again. Nice of your neighbour to let you use their computer. My man is away too - I guess they gotta do what the gotta do. See you soon
mamoogins - sounds like it was a move that had to be made and was the best for everyone. What a welcome he got! It sounds lije a very nice facility and a caring community. You are right - you couldn't ask for better care than that. I do hope that you are hubby can relax and have a break now.
cmag - sounds like your mum was spoiled in a sense, and running home could certainly be seen as not wanting to take responsibility - for herself, her marriage, her child (you) - she wanted others to look after her
((((((sharyn))))) I am so sorry about your nephew. I know it has to impact you. I am glad they have hospice to help them through this. I know the pain your sil and the family are facing and it is really tough. more (((((hugs))))) - Keep us posted.
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I visited my mom today. She got her hair done are the care facility. She looks so pretty. She smiles when I tell her. She had problems with her feel and my sis and I took her to the podiatrist 2 weeks ago. He smoothed out her calluses and told us of a shoe to get her made of leather and Lycra, a spongy type of thicker spandex material. Well, the shoes got here yesterday and I took them over today. They weren't the right size. So, she was diappointed but I told her we needed to get the right fit for her so she doesn't get more calluses. The store is drcomfort in case anyone else has bad feet themselves, diabetic or hammer toes and bunions. I called the company back and they will do mix matched shoes. My mom has one foot wider than the other. We have to pay for one pair of shoes then 1/2 the price more for another to get two different sized shoes. Hopefully, the new shoes will be in next week. ALL of you have been such great help and given me encouragement along the way. THANK YOU!!! Blessings!
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Joan~Thank you! It is going to be very hard on my sil to lose her son. I can only imagine how I would feel if it were me. You are right, it has impacted me. Last week I was angry because he barely got to be an adult before he had to fight for his life Today after learning he is on hospice care, I have been weepy and sad all day. I don't want to make this about my emotions even though I am sad for my brother's family. It is about what all of them are going through, his brother's and sister and my brother's 2 boys who grew up with him since they were 11 and 9. My sil does not share her feelings with us and my brother told me she spent the weekend of the 9th and 10th in bed. He knew something was wrong and all she told him was they needed to talk but not right now. She is the type who needs to process things before she talks about it. I don't know if I told you all that his father died from the same thing about 2 years ago.

Hugs to everyone!!
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Hi Emjo, I stand corrected. Sorry I mixed your words in my mind. At first I thought you were pointing out the words “horrible” being replaced by “terrible.” In my mind, I was thinking that I’d much prefer the lesser evil word of “terrible.” Then it clicked on my head that you said “stories” and I replied “childhood.” Sorry about that.

Mamoogins – I’m sorry that your father has gone downhill so fast. But I’m so glad that you found a very good NH that actually cares about their clients and the clients’ family. That’s really rare from what I’ve been reading on this site. I’m glad that you and your husband can have peace of mind that he’s being well taken care of.

Sharyn – I’m so sorry. It’s Okay for you to be weepy and sad. It’s not really all about you. He is family. I just don’t know what to say. I kept typing and erasing several times. HUGS to you, Sharyn…
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I like this topic: a universal problem when aging parents need our care. I believe that all those self-centered moms and dads, who used to be our all knowing caregivers, are now vulnerable oldsters, facing life's last challenge--dying. It's scary, and consumes them too often.
How can we, or, can we, prepare ourselves to spare our children this pain?
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yogi - I bet your mum looked pretty with a new "do". :-) Glad you are getting her feet/shoes sorted out.Nothing like uncomfortable shoes. You are a good daughter!
(((((sharyn))))) of course you can express your feelings. That's what we do here. I know it is hard on you, as well as other family members. You didn't say his dad had died of the same thing 2 years ago. My bil died of colon cancer about 12 years ago, at the same age his mother had died from it many years before. He, at least, was 65. You nephew is much younger. It doesn't seem fair, I know. especially when you read about older people hanging on for so long. Please feel free to come here and vent about that too. I remember when my ex's sister died. I was not that close to her, but was to her mother - my mil at the time., and of course to my ex. The impact was great, and I had a lot of feelings to work through too. At one point I had quite a lot of anger, and had to avoid certain people I had focussed it on, as though I knew they didn't "deserve" it, but I still felt it. Eventually it wore off.
It's OK, book. I know you have a great deal on your mind between work and caregiving both parents. I don't know how you keep your head straight as well as you do.
Hi hessaw - interesting question, which has been touched on before in various places on AC. I kind of bridge the gap, being a distance caregiver for my mum who is 100, and being 75 years old myself. Truthfully, as we are a long lived family, I haven't given it a lot of thought other that making sure I had a decent income for my old age and working on my health. I retired only a couple of years ago. I have absolutely no expectations for caregiving as regards my kids. I think a major issue is providing for oneself financially. Another issue is living a healthy lifestyle which tends to promote better quality of life in the last years, as much as, or more than, many extra years, according to what I have read. It is something I work on, I really get concerned for the people who have given up jobs, financial security, friends, hobbies, and often their health in the process of caring for a aging, ill parent. It doesn't seem right to me. Who will look after them when their time comes? It is not a pattern that I would like to see passed on to the following generations. In the old days, there was more of an extended family to care for seniors, and that arrangement did not disrupt the life of adult children as much. Nor was there the prevalence of dementias as there is now, I think. Nor did people live as long. Society changes and we have to change with it. What are your thoughts?
cmag - hope you are sleeping better
margeaux - hubby should be back by now or soon, and with the computer!!!!~
austin - haven't seen you around much
everyone - take care!
Blessings - Joan
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