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Upset,
Wow!!! I cannot imagine.
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Hang on to that documentation for when they file the lawsuit against you.

I'd also get depositions NOW from the Sherrif in WV. Retain a lawyer there to shut this down .
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Barb, We've kept everything including a letter from the insurance agent stating that Badbro came in alone and changed the beneficiaries because he wanted us to have the money because so much had been taken. We also have copies of sheriff's reports and calls to the farm. I've got all the reports from Ohio for when they stole stuff, opened up credit cards, etc. My lawyer in WV knows all of their activities, as well as, my lawyer in Maine. I've also got copies of threatening letters my niece and nephew wrote to my son and screen shots of things they posted on FB. I've kept track of their crap for years. I even have audios of all of them talking terrible to me and Mom. Also have audios of badbro and mom yelling at me about stuff.
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cm - one aunt lived in London through the two WW's. She said she didn't think she could do it again if there was a WW3. I remember the kind of prejudice you mention.

upset - Wow! That's a lot. Your record keeping capabilities are coming in very handy. You and younger bro going for therapy to gether sounds like a great idea. I do think some of the things mentioned - like physical characteristics and illness are at least part of the reason why certain offspring are favored by a narc. My sis has very light blonde hair and blue eyes like all proper (Norwegian) babies should have in mother's eyes. I had dark blond hair and brown eyes. All those wooden pieces sound beautiful. You must have a big house to be able to find places for them

sharyn I don't remember being afraid, but just wary and ready to do what I had to do to protect myself . Home was never a safe place. My sis was more sickly than I was and mother always felt she needed special attention.

stacey - so much going on and you are managing so well. Be sure to get as much rest as you can. Yes, R is doing a lot when he is here. I am grateful.

That sinus infection apparently came with the flu which is going around and I am not over it, so I cancelled my appointment in the south and rebooked and we cancelled the mountain trip. It was going to rain there again anyway. I have made a slew of appointments to get many routine things done before my eye surgery. The car goes in
tonight. Since the fire, appointments can be booked much sooner than before. Not sure why. R and I will instead go south in a couple of weeks past the badlands and visit, among other things, Writing on Stone Provincial Park - petroglyphs and pictographs. It should be interesting,

Rainey and Duck, thanks for the kind words. The support here is great!.

Hope I haven't missed anyone. This dang sore throat and blah feeling just won't go away.

Take care all
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Ohhhh Upset,
You are one smart cookie! They don't have a leg to stand on. Too bad you couldn't file a suit against them and make them pay it back. I hate to say it but I would rather make a deal that they sign an agreement that they never contact you ever again as long as you live or if they do, they must pay back every penny they stole, extorted, or whatever method used to get money or property that did not belong to them or face jail time. Can't help it, I despise your inlaws for all the damage they have inflicted on you.

Off subject completely, but I have a rant to get off my chest. What is with grown women and the "up talking" epidemic? It really is immensely annoying and I can hardly listen to them speak. I can understand teenagers doing it, hoping they eventually grow out of it, but now it is spreading everywhere, I hear guys do it too, not as much, but I have heard them. Does anyone realize how absolutely moronic they sound when every sentence sounds like you are asking a question or are unsure of what you are saying? Sorry, just had to get that off my chest. Anyone else notice this? I cannot take these people seriously when they talk that way. It's one step below talking like a "Valley Girl." Just a minor rant.
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Oh Golden,
Sorry you haven't been feeling well! Mucinex (the stuff you ask the pharmacist to get you) works miracles on bad sinus infections. I saved me years ago when I got a really awful virus and could not breathe. That, a neti pot a few times daily and nyquil at night got me by. I was sick for almost a month! This was prior to living with Mom, hit me on Christmas evening.
Hope you feel better soon! *Hugs*
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Golden, so sorry you're a bit sick. How do you dilute the hydrogen peroxide for use as a sinus rinse? I want to do it. I either have extreme dryness or infection, and I'd like to rule out infection. Thanks.

Hi all, I had a few days of feeling very run down again, really spooked me, from Saturday until Tuesday, but the past two days I'm doing much better and just crossing fingers for it to hold! I have to do all the right things, none of the wrong ones. To help me do that, I signed up for 1 hour training sessions, 3x/week for the next month at local gym today. It wasn't very expensive and I need the boost to get back into a fitness routine of some kind, any kind. I can't speak for anyone else, but my energy levels and focus seem to greatly benefit IF I will do moderate exercise regularly... and I'm in a huge rut. I'm glad to have a plan to get out of the rut.

Now to read some... :-)
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Golden, I'm so sorry you feel bad and had to cancel your weekend plans. I don't have a large house, rather a very crowded garage. I've figured out some of the pieces and how to place them, but not all. I now have another mountain of boxes to sort thru.

My brother would like to live here permanently. He wants to build a small cottage at the back of my property. I told him to think about it over the winter and see if he really likes it come Feb and Mar. He may change his mind after a winter in Maine. I would love to have him closer.

I had a call from my SIL's sister. She says my nephew is in the hospital psychiatric ward because he threatened to commit suicide. He says he wants to die because he's not allowed to have his sons for visits and because my brother and I stole their inheritances - from Mom and from his dad. Of course, he has no responsibility for anything. I asked that she not call me or my brother anymore. I told her about the funeral and my nieces activities. She had not been told those facts. I told her I didn't want anything bad to happen to them, but I was done caring about them and did not want to hear about them at anytime. I also told her that we had documented everything, as had John, and that we followed his instructions and his will to the letter. At that point she said goodbye and hung up. I think Barb is right a lawsuit could be coming down the road.

PJ just arrived. We're going to watch an old movie. I found a box of DVD's in Mom's junk. He and bro are going thru them. Since my Mom's taste ran towards romantic comedies, I doubt they're going to find anything they like.

Rainey, I ordinarily don't want to hate anyone, but my SIL, niece and nephew I really, really dislike intensely. The idea of suing them to stay away is fantastic!! If only we could do that I'd be at the courthouse tomorrow. 
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Rainey, I have never heard of uptalking, lol!!, I have not noticed anyone talking in that manner. I will try to pay more attention. I personally am very irritated by women from 20 on up who baby talk!! I don't find it cute at all. Nor do I care for the low mumbling of males, lol!!! They should teach annunciation, speed, tone and volume in school so we can all understand simple English, lol!!!
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Sharyn, I had heard, but didn't know what uptalking was either until I Googled. I dislike the mumbling men too. Haven't heard too much of the baby talk. People in Maine don't always understand my combination WV/Southern accent. My brother majored Speech and Communications. He spent hundreds of hours losing his WV accent. He now has perfect diction and absolutely no regional accent.
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Upset, accents are understandable and most often can be understood. I can't understand one of my husbands aunts from GA. The others I understand fine.  Accents don't bother me at all.
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Sharyn, what of dog do you have? In your pic?
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Upset, my dog is a toy poodle, 13lbs of energy!!

My father came here to the U S from Northern Ireland in 1948. He actually experienced discrimination towards him due to his accent. I never thought of my father having an accent until I would bring a friend home who had not met my dad before. My friends would notice it and ask me. I only noticed my dad would pronounce the word calm as cam... rhyming with the name Pam. He pronounced the word figure as figger. I like learning about cultures and colloquialism.
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I find myself now calling my grandsons little hooligans, using the word shenanigans lol!! I can hear my dads Irish lilt "ah, you been hocking in the muck again". Good memories.
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I don't mind anyones accent, up talking is just annoying.
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Rainy,
aka upspeak! I looked it up the other night while watching the news. A woman was reporting facts, I jumped up irritated, and said to hubs: Is she asking a question, or what? Is it going to be 97°, or is she asking us if we agree? All this was happening before you commented about up talking.
He explained the word for this phenomenon is called uptalking or upspeak.

In agreement with you Rainey, it is very irritating! When I was irritated by valley-girl speak, I would imitate it somewhat, after ranting: " What valley are they talking about?
Everyone says valley, like, the San Fernando Valley, The Central Valley, San Gabriel Valley, Simi Valley----oh, gag me with a spoon, for sure!". It's like, I mean, Ya know,
I sound like a 99 y.o. grammarian criticizing the poor girls/women! Me bad.
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rainey - I have had sinus infections all my most of my life, I use diluted peroxide in a spray bottle and that gets rid of the infection fairly quickly. Starting to feel better thankfully. Don't think we have uptalking here - not in the grocery stores anyway lol.

ali - I use boiled water - 2 parts water to 1 part peroxide. That may be a bit strong for you It is probably better to start with a weaker solution such as 4 - 6 parts water to 1 part peroxide. I find that a spray bottle such as you can get saline in at the drug store is the best for getting it up into my sinuses. I spray about 4 times a day or more if the infection is bad. This time it was a nasty infection but three days of treatment got rid of the infection. Hope this helps. Sinus issues are the pits. Good for you for going to the gym, I am finding that the walking and exercises that I do at home are making a significant difference. You need to make it routine in your life.

upset - the story of my life . Changing plans is normal for me with CFS/FM I never know how I am going to be so I have to be flexible. I am on the mend. Wouldn't it be wonderful if your bro could be close. Sil and crew should go jump in the lake. They really are pathetic. Would any self respecting lawyer touch such a case? Hope you and PJ found a good movie. I don't envy you dealing with all the boxes. Beautiful old wooden furniture seems to be large for today's houses. I have my parents old dark carved oak dining set minus the huge buffet which went to one of my boys. I love it but it takes up a lot of room.

sharyn - bet your dad had a great Irish accent. I love accents. When I lived in England and Scotland there were such interesting regional variations. There were a few people in Scotland I never did understand though I was there 4 years.

send - "The high rising terminal (HRT), also known as upspeak, uptalk, rising inflection, or high rising intonation (HRI), is a feature of some variants of English where declarative sentence clauses end with a rising-pitch intonation, until the end of the sentence where a falling-pitch is applied." Wikipedia. Looks like you nailed it.

R and I trying to coordinate appointments is complicated this month, We both have at least one here and one down south but the dates are all over the place. I think tomorrow I will change one for the third time. They will think I am a nut case, but that's OK. Funny phone exchange today while booking the ultrasound for my ovarian cyst and the bone density test. In sequence, I was asked my name, birth date, if I was over 300 lbs, if I was in a wheel chair, and if I was pregnant. It boggles the mind - a 300+ lb, pregnant, 80 yr old in a wheel chair! My imagination runs wild sometimes.
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For anyone who remembers her, Jude's mum passed today.
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Send, I did watch a couple videos before I posted to Rainey, but it is not something I have actually come across. The baby talk I referred to is adult women who will suddenly start talking like a toddler. I think they do it because they think it makes them cute or endearing.

Yes, Golden, I enjoy the variations from region to region. Rural variations to urban.

Does Jude post on any threads? No uptalk intended!!! I am very sorry to hear about her mother.  Those of you in contact with her, please send her my sympathies.  
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For a good example and laugh, look up Uptalking with Connie Chung 1994. It's a short video on YouTube. It will all make sense for those who are not familiar with this. Wish I could say it was all California but it has even hopped the pond so it really is becoming a widespread issue.
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Jude has been posting on https://www.agingcare.com/questions/dementia-poetry-168487.htm?orderBy=recent&page=5
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My SIL has reached a new low with her "mommy dearest" borderline/narcissistic mother who has been in a nursing home after the assisted living place burned down. Her health, however, has declined to where she is in the right place. She does not and never has liked rules, but prefers to be in control. They want to give her her meds each day, but have been letting her do this under the claim that she can. Well, she has not been taking her meds. Thus, she's been told to comply or leave for her behavior is creating a liability problem for them.

She's wanted to leave every time that they have angered her. She owns a duplex and half of it is empty. She also owns some homes, but they are being rented. So, my SIL and BIL are having to move her to her duplex. She will have someone with her for most of the day, but feels like she will be ok alone at night. While this is quite a plan, she does not like the idea of her helper staying with her, but not doing anything for a majority of the time that she is there. She can only cook and clean so much. She sees no need for her to just be with her some of the time, but that is what she needs. There are, however, other problems. She basically can't see and can hardly hear. The last time she tried living in a rental house near her daughter, she would not wear her alert button.

Another sad part of this is that she is still competent and thus has to be allowed to make this unwise choice just so that she can be in control. My SIL and my wife agree that there is not anything anyone can do. This is a crisis in the making. My SIL can't spend much time with her mother or spend the night because of her own healt problems as a cancer survivor with complications and she has a husband and they have their own house plus pets. She's all alone in this and we live 3 1/2 hours away. Her mother is in her upper 80's. What a mess!

Thanks for reading my vent.
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My son called me really late last night. He had been in Oregon. In his mail were a bunch of threatening letters from my niece and nephew. He made copies of them and took the original and envelopes to the police. They agreed they were threatening, filed a report, made copies and kept the originals and faxed to the authorities in WV. Someone from WV called him and said they would talking to my niece, nephew and SIL. They made some really vicious comments about what they wished would happen to him, his wife and their children. It was awful. I hope they do something to all three of them.
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Cmag, sending good thoughts your way. You always have good advice having gone through the baptism of fire yourself. I hope your wife is ok in this...
Upset, some people are just bad, mentally broken, and incapable of change. I'm sure the anger stems from the money train stopping. At this rate, they'll have records from coast to coast....sorry for you and your brother having to go through this. I guess just a box for evil letters and give to police.
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My son's grandmother is 86 & shared with me she took care of her aunt hand & foot. She stated, she moved her aunt in, and the more ill she became, she gave up her own activities and don't regret it. Her aunt died at age of 99. My son's grandmother shared she expects the same treatment. I shared with her, in todays society, that's asking a bit much from any one person. In her community, they offer companionship services where the city has funding 4 someone to sit with that person 4 few hours Monday-Friday, and that could possibly relieve her caregiver or family members. She expects people to open doors for her, except at church, where she tries to do everything for herself, almost falling or bumping into walls. I'm trying to understand. But I do know 1 thing, I'm not prepared to give up my life totally if I decide to move in. Are they're any other options? No, her son (cousins & son's can't do it for some reason & the cousin hardly ever visits she said) can't live with her because of drug issues. Options please.
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Brenda just say "NO" is your only option. She is trying to manipulate you in the worst possible way. Move away if you have to and can. This is not going to stop. Don't be guilted into moving in with her even if it looks financially advantageous to you. The big one here is that she will eventually have a fall or illness that requires hospitalization and rehab. At all costs do not agree to help her even temporally. once she gets her claws into you she will never let go. Good luck. You may feel cruel but it is the only way you can save yourself.
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PS Brenda, I love people opening doors for me and loading the groceries into the car.
I am a very independent person but take any help with good grace the older and more disabled I become.
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Brenda, Say NO loudly and clear. Once trapped you won't escape.
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Upset,
I would release all evidence you have on them with their local PD, send them a package or speak to an attorney. If all of you, brother, son and yourself send in all evidence along with any proof of monies that were extorted, stolen, etc. I would throw all of it at em!
Expose them for who they really are to their local PD and see if there is anything else you can do to prevent them from calling, (block their numbers). Unfortunately, I know all too well there is only so much that can be done, my badbro has not threatened me yet so I have to deal with the hate mail that pops in every now and again. He has just accused me of Elder Abuse. LOL! That is just funny if you all knew how spoiled she is! I do worry about his mental instability though. Husband is looking at getting a security camera for the front of the house now as we speak. So sad we have to live like this!
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No Brenda, don't do it, you will be kicking yourself in the rear if you do.
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