
Many of us, myself included, come from a dysfunctional family which adds a lot of weight to the challenges of caregiving. I have read stores on various threads on other topics and decided it would be good to have a thread just for this topic for people to share, vent and discuss.
The idea for this thread originated on the thread named "The Caregiver....How are YOU doing today?"
Sometimes tough love is the only way we can truly help. It is hard to be a mother and watch your child do without, but it is harder to watch their lives go down because it was too hard to say no. 32 is an age when he should be on his own two feet and buying nice presents for his mom!
And I am truly sorry you are having this conflict, but hope you understand when I say at least now I don't feel so alone with this... I know there is another mom feeling what I'm feeling, and trying to get healthy behind those feelings... so thank you for sharing your thoughts today... it was confirmation for me that I, at least for now, am finally on the right path in regard to him... I love him with my whole heart and soul, but do not like him sometimes, don't trust him, and that makes me sad... but I have finally accepted, HE is the one that brought those feelings about.... I work on myself to let the negative stuff go, some days I do good, some days I don't... but I know I'm not upset near like I used to be behind him... my son is 42......I think he truly is old enough to figure it out.... DUH.... thanks again for sharing today... sending you lots of "mama" hugs.....
Book~You really aren't wrong about the song, it's just the wording cuz you are right that in the song you can never leave. It's really a scary song when you think about it. I know I will never check in with a hotel by that name, Lol!!
Joan~I know the emotional hangover feeling as well. I am sending you cyber ((((HUGS)))) and hoping you are feeling better about the situation. When I first suspected my mother had Alz., I went to her dr. We then got together as a family and told our mother what we suspected. She blamed me for going to her dr. and making up lies about her. She told me to stay out of her life until I grew up. It was hurtful and I did stay away from her, I didn't call her, no contact. Of course, there is never an apology, but she ends up needing help with something, sickness, etc. where she starts calling again. If she did not have Alz, I would not have contact with her because it's safer and saner in the long run. I know it hurts deeply and triggers all those hurts from the past. The best you can do right now is love yourself, take care of you and know that we support you!!
Book, I know all too well the emotional eating! Its hard, isn't it? I stopped at the Amish market yesterday on the way home from checking out a placement for my mom. Bad decision.... It's amazing how quickly baked goods disappear. I lost almost 60 pounds a couple years ago and hopefully mom will do well when we transfer her to a private care home on Monday and I can be less stressed.
I can really relate to the sibling issues. Yesterday was the first anniversary of my oldest brother's death and we had an ok relationship but his health was bad and he didn't help with mom. My other brother is in jail. I feel guilty but I don't want anything to do with him. He causes tension and discord without even trying! My husband has been so generous with my family. Helping take care of my mom when he comes home from work, 1 brother lived with us for 1 year, the other for 2 years- neither one contributing 1 penny or helping with mom. And now he has the financial burden for my mom. I'll try to work more hours but I feel like I owe him so much gratitude...
Is it common that narcissistic and borderline personalities have the need to be right? My mother will dig all the way back into my childhood to bring up something that happened to prove her point. I usually don't even argue with her about things that are not critically important, because she needs to be right all the time. There are some things that are sacred, though, and your mother crossed that line when she mentioned your son as proof of her rightness.
Sometimes I think we should call ourselves "adult children of sucky parents." The word dysfunction is too general.
Sharyn, Lildeb – so I got the “never check-out” wrong. I just remembered the person not being able to leave that hotel. Depressing song…
Jane – I hope you feel better. Hard when you’re dealing with 2 at one time.
Emjo – I’m sorry that you’re hurting from what your mom said. When I was in middle school, my mom gave me such Hatred in her eyes because I was a skinny sickly person. I can still remember where she gave me that Hatred in her eyes and How I Felt. I was shocked. Even though I knew our parents didn’t love us (actions speak louder than words), I just didn’t expect to see Hatred. After that, I learned to hardened my heart from her. I stopped trying to get her attention or please her. I started to learn to take care of myself and handle any sickness/pain/bleeding on my own…. I don’t know which is worse – the words (like you got) or the eyes (like I got.) Maybe either one is just as bad because it does hurt us to the core.
(((((((jane)))))) seems like you and I are at similar points. Let us know what you figure out. For self-protection, boundaries are really needed dealing with these unhealthy people and situations. I guess I have to draw some tighter ones myself.
lildeb - rubber room is another term for padded cell - I think it means people can bounce off the walls
marg - I like cooking too - I find it calming - eating the results isn't bad either. I made a reasonably successful gluten- and dairy-free blueberry/raspberry pie the other day.
book and sharyn - what ARE you eating. I don't get heartburn much, but I do eat fairly carefully. (wheat and dairy allergies) That white stuff was nutriwhip, and after a couple of spoonfuls today when it didn't sit well, I washed it down the sink.
hugs to everyone - hope tomorrow is a better day
Narcissistic people just don't get it. Like my MIL when my wife was talking to her about the miracle of her identical twin sister still being alive after her fight with ovarian cancer 11 years ago to which the MIL said "God healed her so that she could take care of me and I'm sure she enjoys being around me." No! She even says she misses her dead husband because he is no longer around to do things for her.
I am suffering from an emotional hangover, I think. Today I had an upset stomach, nausea, and I think it was due to the exchange between mother and I. As much as I tried to laugh at it, having her tell me she never wanted to see me again did hurt. I have done the best I can to help her over the years, and it has cost me plenty of emotional pain, and I don't need more of that. I am not sure how to further protect myself. Some years ago she wrote nasty emails to my daughter who waited a while, then wrote her back, and told mother that if she ever wrote like that again to her, she would have nothing more to do with her. Mother was never nasty to her again. I am about ready to do that myself.however, I know I have to mean it.
I know I'll feel better in the future. I'm strong, but maybe this time, my body is really talking to me and things will be different. I hope so. I have to set some boundaries and I am not looking forward to it.
Last thing I remember, I was
Running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the place I was before
"Relax, " said the night man,
"We are programmed to receive.
You can check-out any time you like,
But you can never leave! "
It is a dark song that I always thought was about maddness. I prefer "Take It Easy" and other songs by them.
Eyem~You've come to the right place to get support and just to vent! I hope the group therapy helps you. You will get lots of support and ideas from them. Keep us posted on how things are going for you.
My less than involved sister lives 2000 miles away, in my Mother's house, and won't come help and won't let mom go home so I can have a break.
I'm not doing well at all.
Margeaux, you can only suggest to your mom n dad to eat a bit healthy but like u saw they chose to eat what they wanted. You did try to help them with healthy suggestions n I am Sorry u lost your dad due to a stroke. Your dear sister needs to be jaw flapping with the cousin instead of bothering you about it. I just cut her short n let her know u have something that has to be done n you talk to her later, bye. : ) Later wouldn't come unless you call her.
What on earth?? Lamb chops, pickled herring? After gallbladder surgery?
Yikes!! Yes, my dad did the same thing. He had colon cancer. He did have the gall bladder removed at some point. I used to try to encourage my mom to make him lighter, healthier foods. He also had high BP. But they insisted on eating pork, and other high fat food, which is a complete no, no especially for them! I wonder why my dad's BP, was apparently skyrocketing towards the end of his life. Even though he had the colon cancer, he had a stroke!
Well, I'm glad to hear that her emails have calmed down.
Your story about the whipped topping was too funny! Something like this happened to me when I was making a sauce. O.K., this is a good way to relieve stress also, cooking. Of course that's if you like to cook. I do!
Yes, I'm maintaining a safe distance from my sister. Two days ago, she started to ask me about our cousin (the one she lined up for possible babysitting of mom). She was asking me whether I'd spoken to my cousin, I said, "no." Then she went on to repeat the request to my cousin that she watch mom. But now my sister is saying, "I don't know whether I'll call her; I think she is too busy right now watching her grandkids." So you see, this is the 360 degree turn my sister loves to do! She says one thing, then concludes something else. Good thing the conversation was short.
Yes, I have to try not to allow this kind of thing to discourage me from going and checking up on mom.
O.K., have a wonderful day!
Much Love! Margeaux
…..I hate that song Hotel California. Have you really listened to the words? You can check in but you can never check out. Awful place! I used to love that song until I really listened to it.
Lildeb – what you mentioned also upsets mine except for the coffee (caffeine) and peanut butter. Ha! I was wondering about the bananas! So, that too is a no-no, huh? What also affects me is Bell peppers or green pepper and garlic, pizza and lasagna. As for pizza and lasagna, I just pop Gas-X before I eat it. I think it’s the tomatoes in it that’s not good for acid reflux.
Now let's see. My marriage broke up and I left everything I owned in TX, because there was no room in her house for my things. I went from having friends to living in a house with hermits who don't even want to socialize with me. I can leave for a couple of hours at a time before I have to get back to do everything that needs doing -- medicine, meals, necessary house chores. And I do all this with no pay and have to cover my bills from what I sell online. (My bills are more than hers.)
Okay, I was ticked. She pushed that button. I told her that she had always had someone taking care of her -- her parents, my father, now me -- so not to go acting like she had lived this hard life. She was quite capable of cleaning the floors herself and it would be good for her to actually get up and do something.
Then I went back to normal. THAT drove her crazy. I think that often people grow old without first growing up. These are the people that send us to the rubber room. Sometimes I actually do bump my head on the wall. It doesn't help.
Bookworm, I didn't think about those pickle beets in my salad. Pickles, caffeen, fatty fried food, red sauce, penut butter n banana of course any citrus fruit or juices r my enemies. Active yogurt wasn't working for me so I switch to Yoplait yogurt n it has been pretty good to my tummy. ( I better go knock on some wood.)
Well, the mnl has went off to bed, Bookworm, I have my door lock please don't forget to lock yours as well. I got to go check my b/s n take my pm shot n I hope I sleep like a baby tonight. Here are some zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz for everyone to have a good nite. ; )
Book~Knowing that I shouldn't do it, but I did anyway, I ordered the tacos from Jack yesterday and I am paying for it today. Woke up sick to my stomach, too much acid, plus I drank a coke which is a no no too. I have only been drinking water today no food, I will have a light dinner. It's a hit and miss situation, sometimes I can eat something like the fried tacos with no problem, then other times I pay for it. Book, really...pickles and yogurt!! Reminds me of pickles and ice cream that a pregnant woman craves, LOL!!
I saw on line where you can get baby lullybys that is rock music, Hotel California by the Eagles, Iron Man by Black Sabbath, and I Want To Hold Your Hand by the Beatles...us baby boomers might want to get these lullyby versions to help us sleep, Lol!!
As for my dad, he kept calling their doctor. Now, they no longer have a primary doctor. The doctor called and spoke to my sis. I need to bring both parents to the clinic to get a New primary doctor. Uhm…2 bedridden parents to the clinic? Mom on oxygen and constant suctioning which can fill up the canister in 1 hr? Really? So, now I have to figure out when to take her, make an appointment for private ambulance transportation and then go to the clinic for who knows how long. I have to do it soon since the meals-on-wheels called asking for mom’s stomach tube nutrient meal prescription and we need to replace her throat trache (discolored and appears to be close to cracking). So…I just really wished oldest sis can do all these. She’s not working. My 19yr old niece is not working so she can come over and babysit my father. But, my father told oldest sis that she has no authority over them – only me. Whatever!!
Sharyn – my acid reflux is acting up. And I’m the culprit. For the past couple of weeks I’ve been craving picked food and yogurt. Every time I eat the pickled food with the main meal, I have my reflux. With the yogurt, I just have really bad case of burping. I really had this under control until the cravings hit.
What is this with all of us caregivers? Everyone seems to be having insomnia. Remember how I tell you all that when my head hits the pillow, I’m knocked out? Ever since I drank that green tea 2 nights – I now struggle to sleep at night. I even wake up when my mom coughs. Well, it’s 829pm. Time to go. Later! And I hope you all had a good night’s sleep!