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Beck, no decent attorney would ever advise you to pay a debt that was not yours.
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Becky, You don't have to pay for the car if it's not your signature on the paperwork! This will never stop unless you stop paying.  

PS:  How come the credit card didn't write off that money, since it was identity fraud?  You could call and talk to someone there.
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Chris, NO is a sentence... (someone else said this on this forum - I love it!).
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Becky you seem to attract trouble. So sorry this latest has hit hard. is there any way you can file legally that you are not responsible for any debts incurred by these low lifs in your name.
Have you considered enrolling in something like Lifelock? In our current morve i had to apply for power and TV. In both cases they did a credit check. Within hours there was a call from Lifelock asking if i knew about these. That way you would have known immediate that there was trouble at the crossroads. Getting that fake drivers license was an offense in itself.
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Glad, I had attorneys in Ohio. After I had 25 or 30 calls a day for months I couldn't take it anymore. The sheriff in the county where it took place was the worst human I've ever met. He accused me of being in on it and a bunch of other stuff. Perhaps if my mom hadn't passed away and I had had to spend my retirement or savings I wouldn't have. But when I received my part of my mother's estate I paid all of it off. I rationalized that it wasn't money I had budgeted for anything, so it was worth it to get rid of the hassle. The collection people were ruthless. They called me day and night at home and at work. I simply wanted to be left alone. My stepson says that I most likely won't have to pay this car loan because it occurred after I had notified credit bureaus of the identity theft and that I would not be responsible for any accounts
opened after that notice.

I hope tomorrow will bring a good response on the car debt.
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Beck, why in the world would you even consider paying his debt if it was fraudulent use of your identity?! I do not understand that at all. As soon as you pay one debt you are acknowledging your knowledge and agreement with same. So, putting yourself in the hook for anything else that may come up. Maybe you need another attorney that is licensed to practice in Ohio.
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Good for you Becky. Hope stepson can get this latest lien vacated, or whatever the legal terminology is!
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Barb, I was so tired of the upheaval with my Mom and my brother, I couldn't handle anymore stress. So I paid. I do have an order for restitution for both he and his wife. My stepson is trying to get the wage garnishment for both of them executed. It won't amount to much. They have low paying jobs. 15% is all that can be taken. However, My nephew will inherit a good bit of money when his grandmother dies. I've already the court order on file in the county where he lives. According to the probate court there they have disburse any court payments before they give him any money. So it's a waiting game.
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Golden, it may be enough. I guess the key is raising my heart rate for a period of time to actually be beneficial. Though being active in some manner it better than inactivity.

Becky it’s just horrible they get away with the crimes.
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Becky, talk to your lawyer stepson about this. You are so not responsible for loans taken out through identity theft.
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Glad, It is a felony. In the county where I lived people were sentenced to work release and a percentage of their salary went to restitution. In the county where it was committed and where he lives they have had several lawsuits in the millions of dollars when the men were injured while incarcerated. One has to kill someone to go to jail in that county. It sucks. When my brother was stealing money from my mom, they acquired my social security number and my nephew's wife acquired a driver's license in my name with her picture. It was amazing how they were able to get everything. They were thorough if nothing else. Whole pile of crooks. It happened in 2015 - 2016. Main reason I left Ohio.
You don't want this to happen to you. I have spent all of the money from my part of mom's estate paying off all the stuff they did. You can explain to creditor's until your blue in the face - they don't care what you say or what you prove - they want their money. I could have filed for bankruptcy, but I inherited money and bankruptcy court would have made me pay. So I went ahead and paid and at least avoided a few legal fees and I held onto my house and car. The whole time I kept thinking I'll prove everything and it will all get fixed. Worst year or so ever.
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Beck, what the heck?! Why are you responsible when your identity was stolen? That is a crime and punishable by law. What is it that I do not understand. This is just all too much, unbelievable.
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Alwayshope welcome. One of the major challenges of being a caregiver is to figure out what happens with the person we are caring for if we should pass first. Those plans need to be made and nearly always another family member will not step in for us. Just make plans. Get him on waiting lists some are years long. Should you pass first, leave instructions with an elder law attorney that you NEED to see to prepare documents whatever may happen.

You are looking for live in care for him. It is very expensive call around to agencies and start using others for Care now. He may become somewhat accustomed to others if you start now. An I am sure you need the break.
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sharyn - I don't want to give the impression that I am jumping up and down all the time though there are periods when I d,. I add to that a daily "brisk" walk of about 1/2 an hour inside. I wonder if an added 1/2 hr would help your blood sugar.

chris -I hope you don't go

becky - such a horrible family. It boggles my mind that you have to pay when you didn't sign for anything.

veronica -hope you are feeling better,

dori -how r u doing?

Wonderful summer weather here, flood alerts a bit south of here and snow forecast for the southern part of the province. Go figure

Take care all.
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Veronica, I have changed everything. I have my credit frozen. I have a restraining order in place. This is a holdover from when they stole my identity in 2015.
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Pam, My deceased brother and his two adult children from sometime in 2015 and 2016 stole large sums of money from my mom (brother was POA until I took him to court). His son and daughter and their spouses stole my identity and ran up $180,000 in credit card and other loans and now the automobile. I just finished paying off the $180,000. I guess Monday I'll be paying off a car. It's been taken to the police repeatedly and nothing happened. I know nothing about the wife's uncle. A deputy in the county where I used to live says that the sheriff's depts. do not want to prosecute because they end up with big lawsuits if anything happens in jail. I don't know if that's true. But, it's a huge mess I'm totally tired if having. I dread opening the mail.
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So sorry Becky, if your hair is not already grey it will be silver white by the end of the year.
Can you change all the numbers on anything you have like ss, driver license bank accounts credit cards. Notify everyone not to accept anything from nephew in your name unless you are physically present, then file an order of protection.
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Oh gosh Becky that is terrible. Did you even know about the car? Did you sign anything? Does the wife's Uncle have any information, or is he shady?
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My concern is the care my husband will receive if I die first. He has TBI and Dementia.
He is 72 and I am 78 in good health and good shape. I walk 12-16 miles a week and prepare healthy meals for both of us, however, I did have a TIA four years ago and it is likely that is how I will go.
With Traumatic Brain Injury, there are often rages from frustration and sadness over not being the person one was before.. and it is difficult to be around. My husband has two sons, one an hour away and the other in Hawaii. It has been made clear to me that they will not have him at home with them when I pass. 
They are good men but they (rather the oldest who lives an hour away) have a plateful from overseeing care for their mother who is suffering from MS for 16 yrs. So I get it.
I am looking at ways that he can continue at home with caregivers during the day(he is in good health) but finding people to stay the night or even have a live-in is near impossible.
Ideas?
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Thanks Sharyn, I know where he is. Just don't have a working phone number. He's such a jerk. I'll never retire if this kind of stuff keeps popping up. He's the rotten gift that keeps on giving.
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Oh Becky, I’d cry too! I wish I knew something legal you could do to track down your dys family and banish them from trying to use you financially. Hang in there, ( ( ( hugs) ) )!
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I have had a perfectly wretched day. I picked up the mail about 2:00pm. I got a certified letter from some lawyer in Toledo, OH. It said a judgement against me had been filed in ----- County, OH in the amount of $38,989.52 for an auto loan taken out in June 2015. They had been trying to locate the car for repossession but only located the vehicle two weeks ago. The State Police located the vehicle abandoned in a state park in northern Ohio. The title recorded by the state is in my name and my nephews. Dysfunction strikes again. I tried to call him but the number was disconnected. I called my niece and she had the same number. She said she remembered the car and said my nephew told her that his Wife's uncle (who is a used car dealer) helped him get it.

When will this mess ever end? I guess Monday I'll have to spend half a day trying to get information on what that little jerk did. I sat and cried for half an hour and then realized that wasn't going to help. I feel physically ill over this.
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Yep, dementia. ((((hugs))))
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BlackHole, SharynMMarie, Becky04473, Now she says she never said anything about driving. Also, That she is flying to Mississippi and I am flying straight to LAX from BWI. Which is what she said to begin with.
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Chris, Don't go on the trip unless you have to. I second what Black Hole says too.
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Chris I second what black hole adviced above. Stand strong on this trip. You have no obligation to go.
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I’m not having  any tummy issues with the metformin.

My dd got a part time job for Tuesday-Thursday. She will be working with me in the deli,haha! I have morning shifts and she will work 2-8 on her hubs days off. My manager hired her via email then called her, this is so funny because the deli manager hires people very quickly. Very seldom will we actually have the same shift, maybe once a week at most.
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Chris, others here have suggested that your mother has “graduated” from selfish/wacky/demanding to the early stages of dementia. Please take that to heart — difficult as it is to accept.

People like your mother mask their slipping very well. Everyone around them chalks it up to their loved one’s lifelong difficult personality and tsk-tsks about how stubborn he/she is getting in his/her old age.

Truth is, it’s neurological deterioration. The lifelong personality disorder is now just the co-host.

A month of Mom behind the wheel in unfamiliar environments is a terrible idea. (Chris, you don’t drive, right?)

Is there any way this trip can be stopped? If not, refuse to go. Tell Mom now and tell her often that she needs to find another patsy. Or she goes alone.

Chris, stress exacerbates your issues. I know your mother does a number on you, but you are not required to be her co-pilot. You need to take care of your mind and your body and your kid and your life. That’s more than enough.

When Mom was your age, would she have signed on for someone else’s bad idea like this? Heck no.

Mom pushes all your buttons and drags you into her crap. She sees no reason for this to turn out any different. So you need to assert yourself. Now. Say no and stay strong.

Good luck, Chris. I know this woman gave birth to you and all, but she’s killing you. Please stand up to her. Not in the form of the round-robin arguments she routinely uses to wear you down. But a big, fat, unshakable NO.

((((hugs))))
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My mother found her drivers' license after she had gone to the DMV and got a new one. She found the old one along w/ her American Express card in a pouch, she wears on her neck.

But now she has apprised me of the possibility of being on the road together for almost month. I don't like traveling with her. When it comes to travel, I want consistency. But she loves perpetual ambiguity. Meaning she loves making lots of unplanned 'visitations'.
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I never have had tummy upset from my metformin, but I do go to the bathroom a lot more, and move faster getting there!! It was awful for the first few weeks, but now it is better and I know when its likely to occur. I only lost about 7 lbs, but it was enough to help my A1C and so I opted to stay on it.. it's cheap and effective for me.
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