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Sharyn Marie, I hadn't thought of ownership issues. Good observation. I was thinking more along the line of hackers and financial information. Hope you find what you're looking for.
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All valid concerns. My understanding ( I could be naive), my dna is mine, I own it and it cannot be sold or used for research without my consent. I can request for my sample to be destroyed after I receive the results. Insurers, employers do not have access to my DNA. Law enforcement can be given access when certain conditions require it....not for speeding tickets, lol!! Since I am not a terrorist or have a record of being arrested or serving time in prison, I’m not concerned about it.

Send, if I find out I am related to a sheep, I’ll let you know!, haha! Could be the black sheep in the family😜!
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CM, I love the classic trio - never thought of it in those terms. But is so accurate.
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Then, your DNA is found at a crime scene and you have no alibi. Lol.

Or, it is used for stem cell research, and injected into a sheep's embryo.
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I wouldn't be at all surprised if they lost it, sold it or had it stolen. I'm just not that bothered if they do.

Though admittedly I'm also not that bothered about having my DNA analysed, either! I really don't believe they can tell me anything that isn't the classic trio - "obvious, trivial or wrong."
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I don't trust Ancestry.com. I looked my name and there were two men listed as my brothers thatI've never heard of. It was on a free trial day. I gave them no information and didn't sign up. I'm weird about all of that kind of stuff. I've had my identity stolen and it's no fun to clean up that mess. And it's expensive. When my uncle did his research he went to the state archives in WV, KY, and VA. It was a hobby for he and my aunt. They liked the road trips. He had his DNA done by a local lab.

A close friend had a baby out of wedlock in 1966. A lot of rumors circulated - small town. But very few people knew exact details. A truly nosy, invasive woman who didn't like her back then and not in the present did all of Internet, Ancestry searches and finally got the information. She announced her findings at 50 year class reunion last fall. It was horrible for my friend.
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I don’t trust Ancestry, 23-&-Me, etc to behave responsibly with the DNA they are collecting. Large institutions have an abysmal history with protecting people’s personal data (Experian, TJMaxx, Anthem BlueCross BlueShield and Facebook come to mind).

Among my real-life peers, I’m the lone crackpot. Does anyone on AC Forum share my jaundiced view??
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Sharyn, My dad's family had a family tree that went back 14 generations back to England. The family tree and some stories had been handed down for generations. The family farm had been held in WV since the early 1800's. It was part of a land grant that George Washington made to workers after he surveyed the Ohio River Valley in the 1700's.   My uncle got interested in the history, but kept finding things that were unusual. He had a DNA done and also went to a state genealogy location in VA. He got back his DNA test and found a small percentage (under 5%) of Africa blood - a country in West Africa. In Virginia he found the name that matched a previously verified relative's name in the family tree. He was a slave on a Virginia plantation owned by one of the George Washington's family members. In the records of the Ohio River Valley survey, there is a statement that a number of slaves accompanied the survey party to care for horses, cook, etc. the slaves name only appears one time on a list of slaves owned on that plantation in Virginia. I think it's interesting to see all of the connections.
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We are suppose to have Native American, however I could not find any info on it when I did a search on the ancestry site. Yet it is obvious in old pictures on my mom’s side of the family. Also possibly German and who knows what else. On my dad’s side, I have no doubt about the Irish/ Scottish.
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Thanks Dori- I will do that, as I am interested in your knowledge of it.
Sharyn- Thank you. And how intersting to do your DNA test.
I know that I am German,Irish and Native American-Osage( a big Ol' mess :) ) DH is Native American- Sioux, Shawnee, and Kickapoo
Anyway it will be interesting, good luck
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Sharyn, those DNA kits I don't even think about. I know my roots, all Norwegian, if it came back differently I would have one very serious identity crisis! Then what? Was it the milkman? 😁
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Smeshque, good the dr lowered the dosage. I’d be worried if my loved one was so heavily knocked out from medication.

Dori, I hope your mom has settled down within normal routines again. Parents seem to be hardest on the child caregiving than the child who pops in and out for short visits.

Golden, I hope your life has calmed down. I’m glad your dd is back to taking the meds. I’m sure she feels better too.

Since the first time I made an account on Facebook, I have periodically searched for my cousin in Ireland and her son as well as other cousins. This particular cousin and I corresponded via letters starting at age 11-12. Then we met in 1975. After getting married and having children, we lost touch with each other.

I searched for her again today. I came across a post by a woman naming several of my cousins. This post was a year old and about another cousin who passed away from MS. I left a message asking if anyone knew how I could connect with my cousin. Then I searched for her son. I found him! I messaged him asking if was indeed her son. He said yes. Turns out his mom passed in 2001.

I am disappointed. I plan to message her son again asking if he will friend request me on Facebook as his settings only allow friends of friends. Too many years pass and we lose contact with friends and family.

I did something yesterday I have debated doing for a while now. I ordered a DNA kit. I’m curious to find out how much Irish/Scottish and Native American I have inherited from my parents.
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Dorianne, Yes niece's brother. He's a total jerk. I have had issues with both of them. But she is working hard to get her life in order and to regain custody of her two little girls 3 and 5. My youngest brother who lives here has legal custody of them. They're doing well. On any given day PJ and I can't remember how many kids we have or why. But we all get along well. Just confused.
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Becky - Ugh, "the gift that keeps on giving" is right! Is this nephew your niece's brother? (I'm sorry, I just woke up and I know you have a lot of kids in the house, but I can't quite remember all the connections!)

smeshque - Good that they reduced the dose! I've written a lot about my experience with the CBD oil here on AC, but I'll be darned if I can remember which thread (again....just woke up, lol!). Feel free to message me if you want to chat about it.

So ever since his last visit, I've taken to texting my brother every Monday and Friday, to wish him a good week and a Happy Friday, respectively. So far so good - he always replies! Sent him a pic of his "kitten-nephew's" first visit to the park yesterday. Trying to keep things light and easy, but I do realize now it's going to be up to me to hold onto those fragile family threads.....
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Dori- she takes it for anxiety so she can sleep. So I believe they lowered her dose, because yesterday she was back to normal. I have been curious about the CBD oil for myself. Glad your Mom is getting back to normalish.
Sharyn-Happy Friday to you also
Becky-Thank you for the info on Ativan and try and have a good weekend anyway.
Pam-thank you, I believe they adjusted it, seems ok now.
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I take Ativan "as needed" for anxiety, my NP gave it to me when my folks moved in.. actually she said "oh boy, your going to need this!!" I take 1/2 pill as needed, and it just mellows me out, does not make me sleepy or anything,, just less tense. Try adjusting the dose.
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Dysfunctional families are the gift that keeps on giving and giving and giving. My nephew called my house earlier. I don't know how he got the number. My niece has only my cell number. One of the guys answered the phone. Nephew told him a bunch of BS and wanted to know when I was going to let my great nieces go home. I refused to speak to him. I blocked his new cell phone number. I called my niece. She said he had been trying to cause her problems. She said she had blocked his calls because she didn't want problems with regaining custody of her little girls. I went to the gate and made sure they still had his picture and instructions to not let him on the property. He's such a nasty jerk. I am not letting him ruin my weekend.
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Happy Friday everyone!
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smeshque - is your friend taking it to sleep, or taking it for anxiety, or maybe seizures? If it's for anxiety, is this the first thing she's been given for it? When my doctor decided to treat my anxiety, I was given an SSRI. (It didn't work, but I had the option to try others till we found one that worked. I gave it up after 6 months, though, and went with counseling instead - which is what I asked for in the first place, in the form of a referral to a psychiatrist.....I was pretty much denied based on "wait times."  Oh, and later on I started taking CBD oil, which definitely helps and gives me zero side effects.)

Well, mom seems to be getting a little bit back to normal. Hopefully things will continue in this direction! I ordered her a bunch of new pajamas of Amazon, which arrived today, so she's happy and fast asleep in bed.

I wonder if it's always going to be like this? It's starting to feel cyclical. Happy-calm-normal-ish, then mom's escalation of mean and defiant behaviours, then a big poop incident....then I play the big bad authority figure, she sulks for awhile, and then everything goes back to happy-calm-normal-ish. Definitely feeling a little cyclical and almost like....she is testing me every so often. And it always seems to peak with a poop incident!  Like she knows that's the one thing that will break me so she does it on purpose.  I mean, I kinda doubt it's on purpose....but then again, who knows?
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Thank you Becky- she is not very thin, she doesn't drink, I think too that the dose needs lowering.
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Smeshque, Ativan is a benzodiazepine. Could be that her dosage might need adjusted. It can be started at 0.25 mg up to 2 mg. By any chance is this a very thin low weight person? Sometimes body weight makes a difference. Also, if she is taking any other meds there might be an adverse interaction. It also should not be taken with any kind of alcohol at all. That would cause the falling and the being out of it. Some people take a week or so to get used to drug. It's generally labeled not to drive or operate machinery until one sees how they react.
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thanks Dori
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Lol Sharyn and Straw - it's actually a long-time true thought in my head though. :-P

smeshque - I don't really know anything about Ativan. Years ago I had a friend who took it to help her sleep. She was a very tense, anxious, agitated person as a way of going - I can't imagine what she would've been like without it.

Well, mom didn't get up today, but she did let the home support workers change her last night and tonight. Tonight, actually, she didn't want to, but I just said, "We don't want a repeat of Monday morning, DO WE?" And she relented.

Gosh, I'm soooo exhausted.....

Edit:  oh yeah!  The butter chicken turned out great! 
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Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with Ativan? A Dear Friend has been started on that and now she is just totally out of it, sleeping all the time, and been falling a lot. Just curious as to anyones experience with this. Thank you.
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Ah Dori! “You got everything else, lady! I got the hair! Suck it up!”, I had a good laugh reading that line!!
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Dorianne your comment about the hair gave me a good chuckle! I got my moms amazing flowing locks...just wish dad had kept his flakey scalp genes to himself -sigh-

Thanks for the laugh; glad to read you got away from mom and in the pool for a bit!
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Well, I sucked it up and bought a swim cap this morning. Had to get one for long hair, so the shape resembles a Smurf cap. (I should have gotten the white one just so it would look deliberately Smurf-ish.) But I think my hair survived the pool, finally, and that is the most important thing.

All my life, my mom - extra slim, pretty, blue-eyed, delicate-looking, former beauty pageant winner - expressed jealousy over my hair. I got dad's flat feet, lazy eye, wide shoulders, and thick bones. But my hair - that's what the fine-haired beauty queen was always jealous about.  And I've always thought:  "You got everything else, lady!  I got the hair!  Suck it up!"

I'll be d***ed if I'm going to let chlorine wreck it now. :-P

Becky - oh gosh, I would LOVE to say something like that, lol. I suck it back now because of the dementia. But yes. Good for you! I wish I'd seen it!

smeshque - Thank you....hanging in by the fingernails....
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Dorianne, My Mom didn’t have dementia and didn’t have health problems until the very end. She had  vision and hearing deficits and mobility issues. Mostly she was mean and self-centered. She would ask me that question. One day I had had enough of her I said take a long look in the mirror- I’m what growing up with you turned me into. After that a ton of other stuff hit the fan with my brother and his family and I moved out.
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Guest - I appreciate that. I HAVE tried to talk about the dementia with her kidney team. All they've done is snip at me that I have to get a referral from the GP to geriatric psych.  I guess I will discuss this article with the renal social worker.  (Edit:  though based on the article, it might be too late to treat it in any meaningful way.  Mom has had kidney disease for about 15 years.) 

CM - I've washed the tea towels 4 times now, in laundry detergent, vinegar, and Resolve. Lol. At least now I know for sure how I ended up with anxiety problems as an adult. And yeah....dad wasn't perfect, but he's seeming positively saintly right now.  Even with dementia, he was a total sweetheart.

Swimming today! Thank goodness for the one aspect of my week where my biggest worry is keeping my hair from getting chlorine-fried. Then best guy friend is coming for dinner....poor sap doesn't know I'm making my first ever attempt at butter chicken tonight.
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Dori, I've pm'd you a link to an article from the Kidney Foundation about end stage kidney disease, dialysis and dementia. You really need to have a conversation with her doctors with an honest discussion of the latest symptoms. This fecal exposure is not good for your health and may cause you long term liver and other health issues.
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