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hx, Daisy. I had a lot of years to learn about it.
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Golden, that was so well said!!
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This is one of the ways a manipulator works. They find fault which lowers the other person's self esteem. So the other person keeps trying do better and please - which will never happen. As long as others play this game, the manipulator has power over them.

Some "wake up and smell the coffee" and realize it's a game that they will never win so they quit playing. Kudos to those of you who have quit the game with the manipulators in your lives.

Bob, your mom is jerking you around to keep you there. The only one who can change this is you. She's got what she wants - basically a servant who does what she wants. She goes on knocking you down to keep you in your place because if you start to feel better about yourself, and realize you deserve to have a life of your own, you would make some different decisions and not be her servant any more.

I remember reading that you have had dreams about what your life could be. It still can happen. Know many here are rooting for you to start living your dream.
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@Blickbob

I say this in the spirit of friendship because someone needs to say it to you.

You're a professional victim. You've been living in your own victimhood for so long that you don't even try to get away from your mother's abusive behavior. All of your posts here say the same thing. Your mother is an entitled, abusive senior brat who has no respect for you. No matter what you do for her she either minimizes your efforts or finds fault with it somehow. Yet you keep coming back for more. You remind me of the cartoon character Charlie Brown. Every time he came running up to kick the football, Lucy would pull it away, he'd fall down, and everyone would laugh. She'd promise time and time again that she wasn't going to and he always believed it.

How many more times are you going to fall flat on your face because let your mother pulls the football away?

Your mother is not going to change. She will never respect you. She is never going to appreciate you or show a moment of gratitude for anything you do for her. So stop.

Stop doing for her. Stop letting her ruin your life. Walk away and let her fend for herself. You have to look out for yourself because no one else is going to.

You're letting your role of being a victim abused by your mother to be your life. Don't you want better for yourself? You deserve better.
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blickbob, How old are you? If your mother is just starting her RMDs she is about 73 which makes you pretty young. Why are you allowing your mother to destroy your life?
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blickbob ,

Your mother will never do PT ( at home anyway) . She likes things just the way they are .
Read about grey rock . Don’t let Mom see that her disapprovals bother you .
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My MIL never liked how I loaded her dishwasher. Instead of thanking me for clearing the table and loading it, which most people would do, she would take everything out and reload it again. It used to drive me wild. I finally decided it was better for me not to do it anymore and I stopped.

The stupid stuff can drive you nuts.
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Blickbob, my mom's the same way, makes me feel like I can't even clean a toilet the right way.
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My mom needed to have some forms filled out to get her yearly RMDs from the one and only thing she directly inherited from my dad. He didn't have a will and if he did, it was never found.

She had a family friend fill them out instead of me, likely because she doesn't think my perfectly legible handwriting is good enough and doesn't trust me even though I'm perfectly capable of doing such a simple job. My mom has said it without saying it.

She's been speaking highly of the friend's handwriting on multiple occasions and made positive compliments about other friends' handwriting and likes how an older cousin of ours has the handwriting of a 3rd grader...with me standing next to her while she said it all.

Talk about being tone deaf.

It's the equivalent of someone not getting asked to a big dance that would be a perfect date and his/her friends are openly talking about their plans in front of the person in question while he/she is staving off depression and rage.

I made note of the lack of trust on my mom's end to the family friend as I showed her out the door and showed her how my handwriting looks. I showed her the pictures of the past envelopes my mom wouldn't accept because they were a little too high and the handwriting wasn't 100% perfect. I noted that because mine isn't good enough in my mom's eyes, it was the reason why it was her filling that paperwork out instead of me. She was stunned and while we talked, she told me she wanted to tell my mom to finally start PT while she was here. However, I noted it was a good thing she didn't because while she and my mom were visiting, my mom got emotional over my dad, telling her that his birthday is coming up.

The PT talk + a notable event upcoming, along with Mother's Day...no bueno.
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6th best wisdom quote for today:
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“My self-love is so strong, it could lift weights.” 
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5th best wisdom quote for today:
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“Let your light shine bright so the other weirdos can find you.” 
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4th best wisdom quote for today:
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“You can’t spell ‘awesome’ without ‘me’.” 
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3rd best wisdom quote for today (self-love)…
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“I love myself even when I forget where I parked.”
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next best wisdom quote for today:
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“Being in a relationship with myself means I get all the chocolates.” 
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EXCELLENT quote of wisdom:
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“I love myself because, well, someone has to set a good example!”
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🙂 how to handle the garbage that toxic people tell you:

“If caring is a crime, I’m innocent.”
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Notwhoshewants - So glad we have been able to help. Stick around and share more. It lightens the burden.
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Notwhoshewants, I'm 😊 we could help.
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I think DrivingDaisy's mom, BlickBob's mom and my mom are identical triplets! Seriously I have learned so much in the past few days just reading comments here. Some of the most helpful:

"FOG"
and
"Dont set yourself on fire to keep the other person warm".

WOW. Thank you all so much.
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Windjammer - Welcome to Aging Care. your mother sounds much like mine, Mother moved several times looking for a "better place". I finally said I would not help her move anymore. If she wanted to move that was on her to make all the arrangements. She didn't like it of course, but that was my boundary. Fortunately my mother handled her money well all her life and when she started to slip she handed it over to me.as POA. Her lawyer contacted me and said as POA I must take over her finances when she shows signs of not being able to manage.

Your mother shows that she is not making good financial decisions. Therefore, you have to do that for your mom. She won't like it but that is neither here nor there at this point. It's not about pleasing her or doing what she wants - it's about meeting her needs - which is, as she is not longer capable of handling her money sensibly, her appointed agent (POA) has to do it for her.

Looks like your mom is playing you like a violin. That has to stop. I am glad you are taking your life back. The caregiver's needs count as much as those of the person being cared for.

Time and again here we read stories of the demented senior running the show and the caregiver child (adult) driven to distraction by the craziness. That's no good at all. The roles have to be reversed. It has to work for the caregiver and be on their terms, with consideration, of course, for the senior.

I suspect she has been manipulative all her life and that makes things harder for you as you have been groomed to believe that her whims and wishes are more important than anything else. You do NOT have to run around daily getting/doing things she wants. Decide how much time you can/will devote to her needs/wishes and don't do any more than that. You are very enmeshed with her and need to disengage somewhat. Not easy but doable.

Her money should be paying for all her care and keep. Not a cent of yours should be. If she cannot afford where she is now living, find somewhere that she can afford and plan on her using medicaid. I believe there are some ALs that take it and certainly NHs do. Your job is to look after you first and then her. You need your finances for your old age.

Sounds like your mother uses FOG - Fear, Obligation and Guilt to get you to run in circles for her. I see you feel it is time to get out of the FOG and take charge of your life. That is great. All power to you. Draw the boundaries you need for your own welfare and for this situation to work for you too. Set up the consequences that you can enforce. Focus more on you and your needs. Your mom won't like it but that's OK. You are important too. Set time apart for yourself when you do things for you. Come here for support - we can do that for you.

Wishing you all the best for this very difficult situation. (((((hugs)))))
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Windjammer:
You need to have control of all finances now as the POA. When my brother got Lewy's I managed ALL finances, as Trustee and POA. I set up all accounts; I paid all bills; all bills came to me. Took a solid year to get it all set up, but once up and running was a simple matter of keeping files and keeping track of every penny in and out of accounts. I was the sole signee for any checking accounts as the POA. I provided my brother with a small personal checking account for his own needs, and somehow he only GREW that; was always a saver.

Your Mom has dementia and is giving away her money. That won't stop. You need now to get together with this banker and need to get this all set up so that it is running smoothly and your mom has no control of finances. This is very hard work, but once it is accomplished it is all protected and settled.
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Golden23....been to the bank 6 times for a new card. Told me last week she got a loan for 5k and I have to take her to the bank asap! They locked her acct. we went in.... bank mgr asked mom "did you give out your username and password?" Momma said "yes bc they are gonna deposit tonight and sit there while I watch it go in on my app." And banker asked "what happens after it goes in?"
momma replied "well then I can use it."
banker "what about next week when your SS comes in?"
mom said "they will take a payment."
banker "how much?"
mom "I don't know but i wrote it down"
banker "do you have any ppwk?"
mom....."no but his name is Steve Smith and he talked to me for a long time."
So we googled the phone #.
scam alert.
"banker closed acct"
30 min later we are home and this man called her landline and left a vm.
Steve Smith is a fake name for some off shore scam company called "Lending Free" not "The lending tree"
I am now flat broke!!! Every penny goes to her upkeep. She wants to help me but she wants to help herself more.
I brought her acct up to positive....again.
assisted living is not cheap. But apparently i am and im wondering who is caring for who here?
im taking back my life. I've lived through hers for 4 years and ive got no friends bc my bff died 2 yrs ago and I was taking of my moms daily wants and I should have been there for my friend before it got too late.
im exhausted!!!!
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So I contacted the fruit phone company (read between the lines if you will) and said "look...my momma is 81 with vascular dementia, we have GOT to lock this phone down!! I want to set up an account for a nine 9 year old and change this number today.....bc apparently yall can protect kids but not aging parents with dementia so weee gonna go that route!" She was soooo helpful!! And we did it!! It took a couple hours but we did it!! Now I'm able to get on there and do ALL THE THINGS that momma did rummaging through my room when I was at school! Lol
I can look up screen time and how much time is on this and that. I'm already her POAH and it started to get ridiculous. She's traveled all over the world and done amazing things! Daddy passed 4 yrs ago and he wanted her in assisted living. She wasn't ready then... she's moved 5 times since then. ..always running to a better place. she is in Assisted Living now and still trying to move independently and it's very obvious she's not able. So... I'm her FOG child. Retired nurse... knows enough that she can sabotage anything. AL director told me she "presents very well" of course she does.
So...she told me she had to have the internet to look up her pillfinder app bc they aren't giving her the right pills. So I granted her an hour access to do just that. And she can book a trip in 20 minutes yall!! Internet was removed from phone. I get a call and text every single day on how she's gonna get a new phone and she's not a child and how dare me!! And after that comes "when you come tomorrow I need you to wash some clothes I don't want them washing and bring me this from storage and take this to storage and bring me a happy meal. Every day. And some days I do and some days I don't.
She refuses to go eat in the dining room so she charges $5 a meal to bring them to her room.
but today.... today is the internet.
I'll catch up with yall tomorrow bc when the activity director sits me down and said "Wendy...go home" we can take care of her." I cry....a lot.
but no pity bc I created this by allowing her to be a Queen. I'm taking back a little bit of my freedom one day at a time starting yesterday.
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🙂 today’s words of wisdom:

“One negative voice aimed at me has the incredible power to drown out a thousand positive ones. One of the greatest things I can achieve is to never let it.”
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.."Mom called me in a huff because she imagines people are judging her for her un-mowed lawn."

Maybe they are.. maybe they aren't..

Mom is just venting right? No need to get involved. No need to solve this issue for her, right?

It's Mom's lawn. So Mom can decide what she wants to do about her lawn.

Her choices are;
1. Cut it herself
2. Ask someone to cut
3. Hire someone to cut it
4. Leave it to grow

If Mom asks YOU to cut it - answer her. Yes or no as you choose.
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Not, there's a site called Out of the fog that you might find useful.
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Notwhoshewants, also someone on here has said , Don't catch yourself on fire, to keep your mom warm. Something like that, not sure if it is worded the same.
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Notwhoshewants - Welcome to Aging care. I like your name - I wasn't who she wanted either but iwaswhoshegot. And I was the "servant child".

As Daisy says you have to look after yourself. Her lawn ( and whatever else) is her problem, not yours. She has made the choices that have resulted in knee high grass. So be it. Don't take that on yourself. Decide what you can and what you cannot do for her and set your boundaries. Be sure you follow through with the consequences.

She is manipulating you through FOG - fear, obligation and guilt. I had a personality disordered mother and she was jealous too. She always had to come first and have everything better than anyone else. I learned not to tell her things about my life as she always turned them around to cause friction and stress. She wanted things her way in every sense. Nothing else would so and even then, most of the time it wasn't good enough.

With people like that you have to set boundaries. There's a good book by Cloud and Townsend on Boundaries. You don't have to listen to her huff from a sefl induced problems. You don't have to fix it or worry about it. It's not your problem. You can offer to help and if she refuses -OK. You've done what you can. Let it go.

Please keep your vacation days for yourself. I bet no matter how much you do or try to do for her she won't be happy. That's her choice. Her feelings are her responsibility, not yours. You can't make anyone else happy. Concentrate on improving your own quality of life and let her work on her own stuff. She wants to be the center of your universe. Don't let her be that.

My mother wou;d get angry if she didn't get her way or all the attention she wanted. I learned that was not my problem. My first responsibility was to myself.

Take care of you!!!
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Notwhoshewants, are your mom and my mom sisters?

I understand what you are going through, I've been there, you have to put yourself first, and put boundaries up. It's really the only way to get through this . Learn "Gray Rock Method" online. It really does help. First few years of caregiving, my mom's summer flowers and lawn looked beautiful, then I'd come home and my were wilted 🥀 and I had no energy to care. I promised myself, no more, my flowers, my home my doctors appointments come first. You need to put you first. Yes sometimes things can't be helped. I had an appointment one day, called mom and she sounded horrible, cancelled my appointment took her to doctors, she had covid, got paxlivoid in her on time, so she didn't get very ill. Things do happen but you got a put your needs first
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So last night mom called me in a huff because she imagines people are judging her for her un-mowed lawn. My brother said he would look at getting the lawn mower looked at but he has never done it. He is always making promises to her and not following through.
Anywho....
The grass is taller than knee high.
She won't let me mow it because I am a woman.
She won't let me hire someone because she wants to make the decisions.
She won't hire someone because she wants to pay family members to do it.
She wants to pick and choose which family members do it.
Family members who are nowhere to be seen.
Meanwhile the doorbell rings. She finally gets to the door and the man is walking away, pushing a lawn mower. I said "Hurry, open the door and call after him!"
She wouldn't do it.
Meanwhile, she is jealous that I got my own lawnmower fixed and I mowed last week.
I'm handicapped.
Alone.
30 miles away from her.
She is jealous of me for doing one very neccessary thing for myself, when I spend every vacation day that I take off taking care of HER.
I change the subject. Tell her how glad I am that my friend is going to come over this week and install a new kitchen faucet.
(I have been without running water in my kitchen for 2 months but have been so darn busy taking care of HER that I couldnt address it)
Instead of being happy for me she says, with much attitude-
"I need MY FAUCET replaced!"
ME: Oh? Is it not working? What is wrong with it?
MOM: "Its old, and the chrome is flaking!"
ME: Does it work?
MOM: ".....crickets...."
ME: Mom, why does your faucet need replaced? Do you have running water?
MOM: "Well, yes it works. But its old"
ME: Mom, my faucet does not work. I told you, I have to carry water from the bathroom to wash dishes, or cook or make tea....its a big problem.
MOM: "....crickets..."
ME: Mom, I have gone without running water for the entire 2 months that we have been dealing with your cataract surgeries and appointments. But I am so grateful its getting fixed this week!
MOM: "....crickets...."
"....crickets...."
MOM: "People need to stop judging me for my lawn, nobody knows what I am going through!"
At this point her phone went silent.
Ummm ok.
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