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first of all (((((((Sharyn))))) congratulations on the pending grandchild. They are a huge blessing and my prayers are with you and your daughter for a healthy pregnancy and delivery,

cm - apparently my sister's email did circulate - at least her son got it and I had a very nice supportive email from him this morning. He called the email "deeply unpleasant" which was a nice way of putting it. Yes, some may buy her story. and it is a pain, but one I have dealt with all my life. I have only one hand from birth, and it is not a handicap so much as a nuisance or a "pain" sometimes and reason to protect my right shoulder which is showing signs of wear. I look at this in a similar way - a reality of my life and something that has to be dealt with. Frankly my sis is more of a handicap. It will be interesting to see if I get any other support. My nephew knows his mother's problems better than anyone else, besides myself and has had the brunt of her anger and manipulation, as have I. His support is very meaningful to me.

Thanks everyone re encouragement to contact the lawyer. I emailed mother's lawyer yesterday and am waiting for her response. I hope it does not come to a legal battle between us, but if so, then I will engage. To me, my sis's comments are so selected to put me in a bad light that anyone should see through them. She completely ignored many of the points I made including the ones abut the food service being the same, which has been mother's main concern. Her arguments would not hold water in an assignment in any class I taught, as they are not adequately supported. Oh, well.

Re father's enabling sick mothers - same in my family, and I think it meant my father died sooner than he would have and had a less healthy old age. He drank too much and that contributed as well. She blamed him and then included me in that for everything she perceived went wrong in her life -and that was daily and meant daily rages and rants. He developed adult onset diabetes and vascular dementia. No one else in his family had dementia and many lived to a healthy old age.

sad - thanks for sharing about your neighbour. I know at some point I have to sit down and write everything out. I have saved about 30 voice mails - the recent ones and will transcribe some things from them. I can remember pretty well what I have done in the past 16 years. I set a pattern of visiting and helping on an annual basis. I wonder why sometimes too, but trust that God has a purpose. more about that later. I too wished that my parents would divorce, to stop the daily verbal and occasionally physical battles.

Going to stop here and continue in a new post. (((((((((((((hugs))))))))))) to everyone
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Hey there, just checking in...Hope everyone is warm and safe after that cold spell!!! I haven't been online at all much lately, but I have been thinking and missing you all! XOXOX to everyone here!!!
We are still here, just surviving, but we have floors and heat. I finally have a room and bed to sleep in...hoping the bed will bring some good sleep and good energy, in turn, the recliner was not the most restful spot! I rarely slept the night thru between midnite diaper changes and I would be awake for hours sometimes in the middle of the night.
Otherwise doing ok I guess mom n I!! feeling very lonely and isolated coming off the holidays. I sure do miss having family, just not my family, hahahaha, not!!! We did go to the BFF's and had a wonderful time and two amazing dinners, Crab feed Xmas eve, and Turkey dinner Xmas day! Well for me I am glad to see 2013 gone it was one of the worst, def in top 3! Looking forward to a better time and life for us this next year!!! This past Saturday
I did get away from mom, for the first time in years, to go to my Dearest friends baby shower. Rushed but nice break, nearly 2 hrs each way drive and 2hr for shower. Glad I got to go, it was iffy, had Flo not offered to watch my mom the day before I would have been able to go. It was early, brunch and I could not have gotten us both there. So I turned on the the radio and enjoyed the ride and scenery and had a great morning, socializing, wow what a concept!!!! I sure would like to do that a little more....but the lady who watched her does not do any diaper changing or maneuvering....she just sits with her so she is not alone. Anyway. once we get thru this financial mess of the home repairs maybe I can look for some foster care to take her for a day or two now n then. I am hoping!
I am often thinking and praying for all the wonderful people here! Hope you have a good day and weekend and to those in the freeze take care and stay warm,
Peace,
Juju
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Austin, I need to learn that – what you learned with your mom on your last trip together. Father is progressing in his senility and we are now both very very short tempered with each other.

Sharyn, I can barely lift a 20 lbs. rice. I cannot even imagine lifting a 40 lbs object. You guys are Strong. Watch your back (literally, those weights can damage your back), though. Congratulations on going to have your very first grandchild!!!! {{laughing}} Now you can spoil him/her and the parents will just have to undo it! =)

Emjo, I like your plan of action. She’s doing a smearing campaign to try to get others to believe that you are up to no good. Do what you need to do to protect yourself. And watch your back. {{HUGS}}

Zoolife. Thank you for sharing that. I had tears in my eyes as I read your words. No male ever said that to me. My parents never apologized that they did that to us. {{HUGS))
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Emjo, you are such a joy, I look forward to seeing you here. We can't pick our families how we arrive here on this plain. But it's what we do with what we've been given to deal with, and you have blessed us all with your humor, kindness, and wisdom. Let the rest of your family eat cake, after awhile all the guilty game playing doesn't even work anymore they just appear even more desperate, bitter and ridiculous. So glad you have a good man in your life to support you through all of this.

Yes my childhood like so many others on this board was a nightmare thanks for the acknowledgment as you do with all on this board.

I had a really healing experience happen this evening while speaking with one of my favorite men friends, just friends he's a great support. We talk a lot about dysfunctional families relationships he was a minster for years he has such a heart for people walking them through their brokenness, and for God. He was trying to understand a women in his life he cares deeply for, as she came from much the same back ground I did. After I spoke about the abuse I sustained growing up in an alcoholic home, my phone shut off, he called me back and said Sherry, I want to apologize on behalf of my fellow man, your father and other men who have abused you, let you down, treated you with disrespect and shamed you. I want you to know you never deserved to be treated with such lack of integrity, it was wrong, and I'm here on their behalf to say how sorry I am for pain their behavior brought you. As he went on I just burst into tears, it reach deep inside my soul, I was heard, and recognized as valuable, worthy of much more than I received. It was a beautiful thing then he said a prayer for me. I feel so very blessed that in my path today are a small group of very kind and loving people who have nurtured me through all of this mess. I can't believe they all have stood by me when I've been falling apart, but they have, this forum included. This is going to has to be the year of setting ourselves free to allow choices that will bring joy to those that suffer here, our lives count just as much so we have to take the time to say NO, set boundaries and HEAL! When were not laughing our hinders off, cause you can't make this stuff up it's so ridiculous! God Bless you all!
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Sad1~Thank you so much!!! This is so awesome with the losses on my brothers side of family and them now having to face the lose of another child to colon cancer at such a young age.

We are keeping the news quiet until my daughter and her husband are ready to announce it to the family. Of course they have told my sil's parents who are as elated as we are. Planning my two weeks vacation around the birth...OMG...how great is this!!
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Sharynmarie! Yay! Congrats to you and your family! Grand babies are the best! You are going to have soooo much fun- =)
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With in the chaos that is going on.................finally some absolutely awesome news for us!!!..............OMG....I am going to be a grandma!!!!!!!!! i am a basket case over this news. It is so awesome...I can't get my mind around it yet. Yes it is my daughter...she has not had official confirmation from a dr. but the otc tests are confirming it and they are very accurate today. Wow is all I can say...OMG...My baby is going to have a baby!! Ok enough without going completely overboard!!
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emjo - definitely contact your mothers attorney and get as much written down as possible so you are prepared - just in case. If and when it comes down to the nastiness - you will be upset and forget a lot of what has happened or what you have done - so much better do sit down calmly and get it on all paper. We unfortunately had to do mediation with a neighbor and I had everything in a folder all organized along with photos and he had nothing - I felt so much better about it - as I knew that if I forgot something it was in my binder. The neighbor looked like a kook - and they sent us out of the room to reason with him. I believe being organized helped us a lot in that situation. BTW - he still is a kook! So sorry you have to do the legal battle as well. I really do wonder sometimes why we have to go through what we do.

Sharynmarie - I agree - talking to my councilor will help me understand why my dad stayed with her - I can remember at age 11 wishing they would divorce and I would live with dad. Ugh.

Hope everyone has a wonderful weekend - and try to be happy! For those that are in the frozen part of our country - stay warm!
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Sad1~Your mother sounds so much like how my mother was before the Alz took over her personality. She destroyed my father (he enabled her too). It is heartbreaking to realize these things about your parent...talk with your therapist about your father too, she can help you come to terms with what happened.

Joan~I think it is a good idea to contact your mother's attorney letting her know about these accusations from your sister. I hope it does not come to a legal battle between the two of you but you have to do what you think is best in the long run.

Have a quiet and peaceful weekend...if possible!!
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Your sister can think what she likes - the trouble is the risk that some innocent soul might take her seriously for a moment. A recurring pestilence, but easy enough to clarify, surely? - since I've been coming to AC, I think, you've been dealing fairly and sensibly with what amounts, frankly, to nuisance calls from the pair of them; plus that utter nonsense - around Thanksgiving, wasn't it? - when your mother was pulling the did/didn't want to see you hooey… urggggghhhh. And a professional who gives an opinion based on someone else's opinion, instead of an interview with/examination of the patient, needs to have a serious think about her reputation…

I know, you know all this. And even if the steps to be taken are straightforward it's still a pain. Goodness you must get so fed up with it.
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cm - if my sister was normal, she would be put right, but she isn't. She claimed in her email that I have hardly ever tried to communicate with mother. She did not qualify that to the last few months - when there may have been some partial truth to it, though in the same time period mother twice stated that she did not want to see me, then begged me hysterically to come and help her move furniture and stop the ALF from stealing from her, both of which were ridiculous. Further communication then seemed rather pointless. But, sis made a blanket statement and also implied other negative things. To say that I have hardly ever made attempts to communicate with mother - say in the last 16 years since she has been out here - is absolutely ludicrous. And she has an answer to why mother is not taking her meds - from a nurse in Scotland and from mother's comments - completely ignoring that mother's doctors and the mental health team here are treating mother and recommend that she take them. It is as far out as that. She is picking and choosing in a rather obvious way and, as G said "To what avail? Why be so antagonistic about it?" She is like mother and wants control, and to put people down. and lash out at them. I have always been her target from childhood. So this is not logical or sensible in any way - but from an unhealthy mind. Yes, she is a pain and always has been. I will write mother's lawyer today to keep her in the loop.
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My GOD she's a pain..!

The correspondence relating to your enquiries about resigning your POA might be helpful here. Anyone who imagines you're in this for the money would be very quickly put right..!
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thanks sad - I don't intend to get into an email war. It would be totally pointless. But I would rather not get a surprise letter from her lawyer without having taken some action myself. As I said above, I can see where this is going. Some one suggested that I write out all I have done for mother over the 16 years she has been here, just to have it handy. It may be time to do that.
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That had occurred to me cm - thanks. I know she has a lawyer friend, and she has suggested that I have too many vested interests in mother's demise to be POA and the another unbiased party should be appointed. I think she is leading up to getting me unseated from POA and putting some friend of hers in. She is the one who took her children to court to get family money from them, so I know she is capable of that kind of thing. She is the one who has stated that she wants all the inheritance. I will contact mother's lawyer to let her know what is going on and go from there. I would not be surprised to see her to go to court to take POA away from me. I have no interest in getting into an exchange with her - I know it will only be nasty and will not accomplish anything. But I may need a lawyer to address the accusation about my vested interest in mother's demise and unsuitability as POA, as I can see where this is going.
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Emjo - can you respond with a simple thank you for your thoughts and that is it...or at least wait a bit before you may be getting into an email war that you don't need.
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Um. Emjo, you can let an email like that go unaddressed if, for example, it's so absurd that it doesn't merit a response… Are you sure you want to dignify it with one? I'd certainly keep any reply I chose to send to that curt and to the point. For goodness' sake. What's she trying to achieve? (I know: a juicy scene for the soap opera…)
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Austin - I have read about your experience before and you really had an AHA moment re your mum. and earlier, I believe re your husband. I guess I had the same, as already, I am less affected by the garbage. I think it may take a while to sink in yet, but I am feeling more and more, "They cannot hurt me". It is a relief, and I think it is the answer to getting rid of the PTSD.
Now I have to deal with my sister's email. I don't think I can let an allegation of wanting mother's demise go by unaddressed.
Thank you so much for sharing. (((((((hugs)))))
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Mbvargo - omg - we must be twins! Lol sounds exactly like my mother! I had always blamed her behavior on her drinking - going out to dinner was a nightmare. I used to break out in a rash when she would come. My dad was the sweetest person ever - but totally enabled her. I am currently reading "You're not Crazy, it's Your Mother" and it has been really helpful! One of my favorite things is she has terminology that is perfect - like when you and you mother aren't speaking she will send her flying monkeys! Lol - and that's exactly what happens. Used to be my dad - now it is her one friend left. To make it just a little more fun - my mother had a stroke and is aphasic - so she talks crazy. If you don't understand her - your stupid! And you are spot on with the doing or getting things for her. Since my mother is in asst living - every time I go she has a list of things to get along with ads from the newspaper. If I don't bring exactly what is on the list - which is usually 3 different places - it's crap! So for the last year I drive 3 hrs to do something for her - run around to shop and then get yelled at. Never a nice to see you or thank you....and god forbid ever a I'm sorry for the behavior. Walking out has been helpful - she screamed after me down the hall - what's wrong with you, are you 12?? Just kept walking! The counciling has been really helpful and so have the books. I too mourn for the mother I should have had. I just saw a elder mother walking with her daughter at the grocery store and the we're holding hands....so sweet. I don't even want to touch my mother - she so foul..

And Judd- I had also just called my mother a black hole also - as I sat in the back seat - I closed my eyes as she rambled on non stop spuing negativity - I just went someplace else. I must be moving from sad, to mad to acceptance and feel ok. I am seeing my councilor next week for a tune up! I still want help on a few things. Part of me feels bad still because of the stroke - but I didn't give it to her.... When we left I sat in the car and had some clarity - it sounds terrible - but I think everyone here can relate. I hate my mother. She is ugly from the inside out. She is vile and hateful and will suck the life out of anyone near her. My poor father - had the life sucked out of him 5 years ago. The problem with narcissists is they do have that nice funny or sweet side that they pull out of their hat when they need to suck you back in. I refuse to be my mother chew toy anymore. It is taking time - but so thankful for my husband and family!
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Joan~I know you are right about the situation with my sis. She is so deep in denial now about her health and I know for a fact, she will not be willing to step down regarding her duties as DPOA and executor of mom's estate. The reason she has done nothing is because she doesn't have the stamina to do it but she won't admit it.

As far a L goes....well I just work with her, have no intentions of seeing her outside of work even though she has a big heart, she is too involved with people instead of being involved in her own life regarding herself. She really should get a job where she does not have to be physically active. Even the other girl at work last night was getting tired of L's tirade and they are good friends outside of work, LOL!! All I could do was laugh....really, the job requires being able to lift and move 40lb boxes. I was actually shocked that they were going to train her for management....maybe they were just calling her bluff since she is never happy with anything they have her do or the shift they put her on, idk....
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The last trip with my Mom a light bulb went off-I had told her-since we were sharing a room at the hotel-if she were too warm or too cold just tell me and I would fix whatever-it was hot in LA and I had the a/c on she yelled at me are you touching that a/c again 'I DID NOT COME TO CALIF TO FREEZE TO DEATH' I smiled and turned it down for a while and then thought she can no longer hurt me-I am not giving her the power-boy it felt good-she picked up some infection on that trip and was in the hospital then had a stroke and died-even though I was with her in the hospital 24/7 for a week nothing she yelled to me about hurt my feelings.
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sharyn, I am afraid you may be in for more stress from your sis too. If you look at it longer term, and she continues to not look after herself better, she will be borderline capable or incapable of doing the job. She may be approaching that now. I am glad you put some fire under her butt regarding the house and contents sale.
Your work situation does sound nutty. I would steer clear of L - not the kind of person who would make a good companion or a good manager!

Have to figure out of I am going to respond to my sister's blast and if I should circulate it to the family, as she claims she intended it to be. The one thing she said which concerns me is that I am interested in mother's demise. That is quite an allegation and I am wondering if I need to do something about that.
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Oops...out of twilight zone. Whoohoo!!
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Joan, when my mom gets abusive those feelings of PTSD flair up quickly. Sis p'd me off yesterday...long story short is she has not worked in 2.5 weeks and has done absolutely nothing regarding mom's affairs. So I put a fire under her Burt to get the house and contends sold.

Yes, I have been working at the funny farm the last 2 nights with L. She has been on a rampage since she found out on Wed night they were going to train her to put a supply load away. She ran to the store manager complaining...I am 54 years old...blab blab blab. When we came to work yesterday she was still on it and complained to the deli manager. I am 54 years old...let the younger men do it...I just shook my head and went in back laughing. The deli manager said when you came to this store you said you wanted to be trained in management. The supply load is part of it. L was having non of that saying why would you start me on the load instead of the computer Lol! The manager was getting angery...I asked her if she wanted to find the nearest brick wall......its a situation
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margeaux -I still feel a warm glow for the card and flowers and my grandson putting the Christmas lights on. These little things help a lot. I think many men are not sentimental. G is not usually, which made this all the more special.

Zoo - love "Dysfunction Junction" - that says it all. I am sorry you were beaten as a child - inexcusable. Don't take on any more that you want to. I am glad you are taking a break. You know you can come and vent anytime. Things will pick up - you can do it. Be good to you. (((((((((((hugs))))))))))))

cm - you are right - this too will pass

mbvargo - oh dear, the one in a million thing - the need to be unique - You are so right that they set themselves up for No Win and all you can do it keep out of the way. I don't know if you can stem the tide of words. Can you walk out of waiting rooms and come back when she has settled down?

judd - I got the FOG horns from my sis as well tonight.. I know the no real sharing - no honesty - never has been. It is amazing how difficult even a short period of time with them is. Setting boundaries is great - will get more comfortable in time. Having your own best friend inside is good. I like the way you put it - your heart is trampled by your mother. yeah mine too and by my sister. Even better that you regained yourself and your peace fairly quickly. yes, less and less time...

Well I am not one of those peaceful ladies tonight. I sent out a family update and got a blast back from my sis that I never tried to communicate with mother, don't do anything for her, that I was interested in her demise ?????, that I should give up POA to someone else, that she had asked a nurse about the meds and mother should be careful about strong drugs and so on. For someone who has had little contact with the people looking after mother she thinks she knows a lot. Gary just laughed at it and said that she is in the same class as mother. I think he is right. Sis started the letter by saying that she hoped everyone got it, and then she sent it only to me. Her daughter who lives with her, could certainly help her to make sure everyone got it, if sis does not know how to do that.. I smell a game here and I am not going to play.

I have been getting in touch with the PTSD and realized that when mother or sis blast/abuse/speak the crazies my anxiety levels go straight up. I know this comes from childhood and the abuse then.So I said to myself "They can't hurt you any more". And I keep repeating to myself that they cannot hurt you any more. They cannot hurt ou any more" and It is working. Judd - like you said - from the inside -
It was great having Gary here too and seeing his reaction to sis's letter. I calmed down faster. I know this will take more work, but it is happening. I want to be rid of the PTSD -I have had it too long and want it out of my life!!! - tuna cans, blue tights, magic bracelets, gold tiaras whatever it takes - I am getting rid of it! That is one New Year's resolution I will keep.
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LOL!!!...I am glad you are all finding the humor. My day was similar but did not involve my mother...it was my sister.
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I make my mom sit in the back in the car. She can't really see that I'm ignoring her. I picture her different ways also it may sound crazy though but picture her as a fish. Or mr peanut. Like you can watch them talk then but it's internally amusing so you can tough it out then. A pig in a tutu. An ax wielding logger. Shoot but really it takes away the...sting? My question is what do you do when they blow up in waiting rooms? She tells off people with perfume or loud talking or whatever. I want to hide under the chair. I usually make that crazy sign to that person or apologize. So tired of THAT fun game. It's exhausting isn't it no wonder they have no friends. How about food? Keep feeding her so she can't talk?
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First of all, thank you everyone for bravely sharing such personal feelings and stories. You have written things that have helped me accept, acknowledge, and begin to think through stages of coping. One thing is for sure: even though I no longer enjoy my mother's company, I am so grateful that at 92 she is still so easy to be a caregiver for: I don't live with her, she doesn't have Alz or dementia, etc.
Just a lot of head trips, and insane ideas mixed with the beginnings of dementia or forgetfulness, and the whole gamut of blaring F.O.G horns, reserved especially for me, her favorite daughter! When I am with her I am someone else.
"Yes, uh-huh, how nice, hm." There is no real sharing. She doesn't let me say even 4 words. Yet she complains to me or others how "all she does is talk".
So weird. Driving her to the doctor: I need to adjust the temperature. She is blabbing on and on about nothing really and she doesn't feel listened to because I am not somehow giving her my 100% attention even though I am driving and keeping the window from fogging. ugh. She is like a black hole. In the doctor's office she was yaking on and on and I looked away from her to a sign I hadn't noticed and wondered what it was. She eats up the opportunity to see if she can make herself look good in front of others. "Look at me when I am talking. That's rude. It's only common sense and decency to look at someone when they are talking you know."
I am so closed down around her! By the time I got home I wanted to shoot someone. Happy to be alone and safe in my own abode, I went to to the bathroom mirror and literally talked to myself. "yuck! I feel yucky all over! But what can I do? I can't think of another way to be that person!" I pretended I was talking to a comforting second self. Maybe the mother I never had. maybe my higher Self, my Soul. She answered, "Don't worry. You have never done boundaries before with Mom. This is the first time you are not buying her trips.
This is good for now." Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Any suggestions? I often wish I was one of those sweet angelic ladies who are always calm and never let on they are put out by anyone. My heart is so trampled by my mother. But after an hour of lunch and back to my work, I had a wonderful day! and the best part was I regained myself and my peace. Maybe it takes less and less time to recover.
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sad1daughter!! oh SHOOT you had MY mom in the car with you, sorry about that. Hahaha. Oh man, oh I really felt THAT one. Ouch. Crazy right? People woudln't believe the things they say. I'd tempted to video tape her and make her watch it. The HAIR, every time I see that woman she cant say enough bad things about my hair, my dress, my jewelry even. Insult insult insult then its all pooooooor meeeeeeee waaaaaaahhhh then it's all about me doing this crazy crazy mindless stuff for her, look up this or find this or move the refrigerater so I can clean behind it. What lady?? and she will fight and argue with every doctor, THEN exaggerate everything the dr said cause everyone should know that the dr has never even SEEN a case like this she is one in a million, refuse the meds or treatment because he's "stupid" then tell complete strangers about all these fake illnesses the dr said I have this or that or the other thing. So now she thinks she is terribly allergic to LIGHT. Light. It will burn her skin right off. ( so I'm thinking we need a trip to the beach right? ) I need to get shades for the car windows so when I drive her all over creation she won't get her skin burned off. I am so thoughtless... sooooo thoughtless, shake your head and click your tongue. Tell me how I wasn't raised to be so thoughtless. I suggest SPF 45, oh I am so STUPID and she blows up, she doesn't NEED sunscreen, I am sooooooo STUPID, she can't even CONTAIN her anger and distain...sunscreen. tsk tsk. I really enjoy all of your stories, I know they can break your heart though. One thing I learned with my kids is to let them figure things out on their own, they grow up more and can be responsible for their own happiness. I have been trying that on satan with some limited success. I learned to say, OH that must be AWFUL to be BURNED by the SUN like that, who would have thought? Then change the subject to remember when you.....fill in some glory thought to puff up her chest. So...it gives me another game to play with satan. Our other games aren't so fun. but DO NOT EVER BLAME YOURSELF!!!! EVER EVER EVER EVER. Cause its NEVER YOU NOT EVEN ONE NANOSECOND. They have set themselves up in a No Win world, you can't do a thing about it but keep out of the way.
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Oops jumped the gun - also meant to say, don't forget that while it does feel wonderful to stop banging your head against a brick wall, you also go dizzy for a while! This too will pass x
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What sort of operations were you working on (and enjoying), Zoolife?
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