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As the title says, my 81 year-old father has no end-of-life documents (other than a will). I gave him an ultimatum to complete the documents (POA, Living Will, Healthcare Surrogate, Funeral/Burial, etc.) as he has been in and out of the hospital and rehab for the last year. He also lives in a hoarding situation where it is very difficult to move from room to room.
Dad texted me today that he will comply and complete the paperwork, but will not give copies (except the living will) to anyone. He will keep them in his safe (that stays unlocked) and give a key to his disgusting condo to a friend in case something happens to him.
I am my mother's POA and my sister is her healthcare surrogate. Mom and Dad are divorced for context. Mom gave us copies of everything 22 years ago including a list of her financial institutions. Even with this it has been a nightmare handling her financial and medical affairs as she has dementia.
I'm trying to avoid an emergency situation with my Dad, because handling this for my Mom has taken a toll on my health and caused unbelievable stress for my family.
Does anyone have an idea of why my Dad is being so difficult, awkward, and secretive? I've already seen his will and nothing surprising there. And would I be wrong to keep pushing for copies of the POA, Healthcare Surrogate, Burial plans, etc?
Thanks in advance!

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Your father probably has dementia. there is something mental going on here. Tell him you need the POA, you cannot act on his behalf without one.

You don’t even know if these documents actually were signed.. My father told me something similar. He and my mother went to an attorney for a consultation, I remember my mother showing me the boilerplate of the irrevocable trust and yelling about how she was going to lose their veterans real estate tax benefit (not true). They never signed any of it.

One day years later he told me that all his signed legal documents were in the china closet . I looked in there and found the unsigned boilerplate. He already did not know which end was up and that was years ago.

Also what happens if something happens to this friend?

Did he go to a lawyer to do these documents?

Too many unknowns to ferl confident that all is in place.
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When we cleaned out mom's hoarder home she had a document signing over something to me on her side table. It was dated about 20 years ago. She never completed it fully. She did reluctantly give me financial POA, but not health POA. I had to go to her bank to get my name put on the accounts so I could pay her bills. I had a notary come to her to sign the POA forms. I hope you can figure things out. It's difficult when they are so stubborn and failing in health.
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If he wants you to fulfill the roles while he is alive (POA, Healthcare Surrogate), then he needs to give you, or whoever he chooses to be responsible, copies of the documents.

Do you actually want to be the responsible person? For example, as POA, you might be responsible for clearing or managing his hoard with the condo association if he is sick or not competent. Will he abide by whatever health decisions you would make for him, or would he fight your choices? You might be better off not accepting these roles and when the time comes, you can then choose whether to take the responsibility or not.
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Your Dad is acting like he has a ton of money and everyone is after it. At least he did a Will, which is better than nothing.

Did you give him the actual FORMS to fill out and sign? He may not want to pay a lawyer, and thinks he needs one?
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Hoarding is an anxiety disorder. As such, lots of other mental health issues come along with it. I'd leave dad be with his plans as they are. You've either gotten thru to him or you haven't.
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I think you make one last attempt and do this: explain to him what happens when a senior becomes incapacitated without a PoA: they will become a ward of a court-assigned third party legal guardian who will not be anyone he chooses. If he's ok with this, then so be it -- let him have his plan and just come to peace with the fact that this is how it will go.

If he says he creates a PoA but doesn't show the document or keep it somewhere accessible, then the court-assigned guardian scenario will probably still play out. The PoA absolutely needs to have the documents with them when they are at the ER with the principal.

As others have suggested, he may be paranoid. Try having a non-threatening talk with him in the morning before he sundowns. Do not give him "ultimatums", just information and then act like you don't care which he decides and that if he makes things difficult you won't have any problem with a stranger making decisions for him. That's as much as you can do.

May you receive peace in your heart no matter the path he takes.
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I have a brother who’s a hoarder. In my experience that often comes with some degree of paranoia. They guard their stuff, from the important like legal documents, to the useless, like all the junk they treasure. If dad actually has those documents in an unlocked safe, perhaps you’ll have an opportunity to grab them and make copies, then put the copies back. In any case, it’s not worth fighting him over. My brother is a dysfunctional mess, I’d bet his legal documents are both impossible to find and not legal at all.
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