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I have 4 older siblings (all retired) and then there is me, the baby sister at 54. I had been caring for my mom every other week and alternating with my sister. We did that for almost 2 years. However, I was driving an hour each way and had to let go of my job.


Fast forward, I got offered a job that I have wanted for 2 years. I accepted the offer. That week I was caring for my mom. I immediately sent a group text to my siblings to let them know and see who would be coming to take my place within 8 days. I heard from no one.


16 hours before I would go to my dream job, still no one had stepped up to relieve me. I talked to my mom, who agreed to pay me close to what I would have made at the new job. Nobody stepped up, and I withdrew my application.


I had nothing but a verbal agreement with my 89 year old mom. Boy, that was a mistake. After the 1st week, my pay dropped. After 3 months, it dropped again, and 2 weeks ago it dropped even more.


So I guess I’m asking, why am I still doing this? I love my mom and want to help but my family and mother are so controlling. $125 for 24 hours under the table is equivalent to how much an hour? Under $6 per hours if my math is correct. Does anyone think this is crazy, or is it me?

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I run employees for my in-laws care through my business to cover payroll. Care agencies do a poor job of paying workers...with about 70-100% overhead...so the family end up with disenfranchised workers that are unreliable....causing more pain to the family then they are worth. I can't tell you how many have family issues of their own, arrive late, don't sow up, constantly are sick.....etc.

To stop all that we pay $32.00/hr, while most agencies pay HHA or CNA workers $17-22/hr. The cost after benefits is $40.44 /hr....with holidays, pto, and. SEP-IRA, and some insurance.

Agencies in N Texas charge from $34.00/hr to $50/hr. We are on 24/7 care with my wife providing care for free daily...meals, support, part of a shift, shopping, meds, cooking.

Despite the free care for 2 (father-91 and mother-94) our costs have risen from $46,000 to now around $289,000.

Their money will now only last 2more yrs. This is my plug for LTC insurance....don't be fools and push this burden on family members.

One sister supports 10days a year, and makes 2 visits for a total of 6 days, and my wife with 2 PhD's and gave up here career is on her 6th year, at a personal cost to us from not working over $700,000 plus all my hiring and payroll and estate planning, tax planning, and financial mgmt support.

To lower costs we have convinced one sister to help my wife, but she won't without replacement income. They don't have much money. We have agreed to pay her 5,000 /mo after taxes and deductions., and provider her living space....

My wife gets no respite care and we spend nearly no time together or have time for vacations...so we are willing to do this. So I'm going to hire her through my company and bill her parents.

That should lower the costs from $289,000 to about $140,000.

A guy I hired yrs ago at a large Aerospace co before I retired was telling me about his Mother in Indonesia needing 24/7 care and his brother was arguing with him about the costs.....get this...$400/mo. Yes you heard that right...$400.00 per month for lives in full time support.

II told my wife we are shipping her parents to Indonesia.

Last year I helped my mother in FL, away from my wife, for 9mos...when she got a brain tumor.

We are "so over" all of this but it goes on and on. I now have a CSA and HHA certification....to teach me how to manage all of this, and OUR ONLY HOPE after $215k in LTC policies is find a way no never burden my 3 children.

The USA has huge care issues! This destroys lives and retirement, but we are obligated out of love. Be responsible...instead of that home and car....step down your costs in life and buy LTC insurance.
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AlvaDeer Feb 2025
LTC programs have issues of their own. Not only are they too expensive over all, but if you don't get them very early they are enormously expensive, prohibitively so later in life. Not only that, you would be getting if often for two people? Most people in USA cannot afford to do this. Moreover, as their income fails with aging the cost of the insurance, as they near their 80s, is impossible and they lose everything.

Add to this, if you have LTC insurance some policies are in impossible to access and implement when needed because of "rules" in the small print; for instance, facility needs to have RN on premises 24/7. THAT doesn't happen.

Another problem, LTC (reverse mortgages also) can increase your monthly "income" not enough to afford a facility, but just enough to make your income so high that you cannot qualify for Medicaid. Then you are faced with Miller Trusts and Q.I.T. Trusts which most Americans don't even have a clue about, and some states don't allow.

There is a whole wealth of issues, and we in American, thinking we have the best care in the world, have often the worst and the worst mortality, cannot see anyone but an RN or PCP, and have wait times that are enormous.

This is all coming to a head now with many Americans aging, their children desperate, and programs being on the chopping board to cut in terms of Medicaid and Disability programs. If anyone thinks that any political party is ever going to care about the problems of the old and disabled or their families they should think again.

We will see how all this works, but you sure give a good solid picture of how it MAY work, and how much worse it might get.

I myself just wish they would issue us a pill; let us decide when we would like to exit for the good of all.
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Something else came to mind even though I answered some where below. I remember missing days at work to take care of situations at home. I worked in sales back then, and family kept calling me at work about problems with mom. She was starting to go in and out of hospitals with her health. It never dawned on her that her health problems stemmed from drinking and taking care of my sister non stop until she got too sick to do it.

Anyway, my boss intervened and told me I needed to stop family calls immediately which I did.

The home health aide who was taking care of my sister years ago told me to get back to work. She said that no one was going to take care of me if I lost a job. She was right!

Continue to be on the upward bound and get as much training as you possibly can. That dream job will come to you, but you must keep working towards it. Keep applying for jobs. I'm getting ready to do the same.
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My grandmother asked me to move in to take care of her when I was in my 50's and my mom was worn out. She said she'd pay me whatever the college was paying me. I knew nothing about caregiving then or about money in general, but intuition told me not to do that. Yours did too, but you didn't follow it. I told Grandma I'd visit and take her on walks and shopping on my days off, but no to daily caregiving, I had to teach for my own good. She cried. But it all worked out when my mom got her some help, then eventually placed her in assisted living. I did move in with my mom when she needed help, but kept my job, and got her in home caregiving too, then assisted living, and memory care. You need to go back to work and help your siblings make other arrangements for your mom, or better, let them figure it out because you are done. Please don't continue to ruin your own future this way.
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Maybe getting into some individual counseling to determine why your self-worth is not sufficient to take care of planning for an "adult" life at present and not sufficient to plan for a retirement that is not impoverished. You mention that your "family and mother are so controlling", but the reality is that you are unable to plan properly for yourself as you cannot withstand their disapproval to live your own life. I don't mean for this to sound horribly harsh, but you are your own worst enemy in not planning at all adequately for a worthy, self-sustained life. You are already 54 years old, so if you work at a an adequate paying job until you are 70 yrs or 75 years old, and pay into Social Security while saving money in an Trad. IRA or Roth IRA: You have a chance to have retirement years that are not terribly meager. BUT: It will take consistent work, careful planning, and lots of frugality to get to that goal. Please get some counseling help to make a plan for yourself, and to figure out how to withstand the disapproval of your family (mother included) in doing so. The family will all be gone when you are in your latter years. I am sorry that you quit and earlier job, only to be meagerly "paid under the table", and now: You withdrew your application for a Dream Job....That's maddening and horrifying! Try calling to see if it's too late to say, "I really would like to be considered!". Your Mom needs Assisted Living full time, or other residential placement. Get some counseling to help you understand that you are a worthy person without a need to please Mom or the siblings. A worthy person plans for her own later years, and feels OK about doing so.
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Instead of criticizing siblings, consider they have established boundaries regarding caregiving. It's time for mom to pay for professional caregiving and let her children live their lives, free if this burden
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Please stop. Apply for more dream jobs and grab opportunity with both hands. This will only escalate and consume your entire life.
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What is crazy is working for your mother and being paid under the table, if I am understanding you correctly. In addition to that's being illegal, you are losing all the benefits you would normally accrue: Social Security, unemployment, workers' comp. Yes, you would have to pay taxes on your income, as would your mother. Right now, if your mother died tomorrow, you would receive nu unemployment and you would have very little accrued towards Social Security. If you decide you must continue working for your mother (I hope not!), you must have a legally enforceable contract. You will probably need an accountant to determine the taxes to be withheld, and your mother should pay for the accountant also.
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I am in the same boat...brother doesn't do anything for mom and I have lost sleep, lost money, and have just about killed myself over the years managing her care, selling her home, buying furniture, moving her to different facilities, etc. It is a lot for one person. Your siblings will happily let you bear the brunt of the care of mom. When they did not answer your text, that was their way of telling you they weren't helping. Does mom have dementia? If so, mom needs someone there all the time to care for her and manage her home. Sounds like your siblings can't be counted on for that, so unless you are willing to give up your life and be the only one responsible...mom needs placed. I would call a family meeting to discuss.
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I am in your shoes. My siblings NEVER help. I have been working from home and trying to care for a mom who can take care of herself...but refuses too. She does have health issues... but doesn't need as much help as she wants from me. My work performance is paying the price. Even when my daughter became severely ill, and also needed care; my family (siblings) did nothing to help us. They showed up at the hospital and demanded to meet with the doctors, but can not help with her or give me a break.
I talked to mom about getting in home care, but she refuses to pay for it. She doesn't qualify for state help or financial assistance with care. When my daughter was so sick and i had to leave to go help her with my granddaughter.. I was told "But I need you here!!"
I dont have many friends that would help, a church family, and no family that I can count on.
I cant even go away for a day with out getting a call that she's not feeling well.
I get the "well this is what you signed up for when you moved in." comment.
I am burning out, frustrated, and unhappy.
I don't know what to do.
If its an option.. get someone to help you. Call in assistance. I wish I could.
I hope things work out soon.
Praying for you.
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JeanLouise Feb 2025
Moved in? You live with mom and she expects a servant? Please, get your own place. Your life matters
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I feel for you. Some tough love might be required. Resend your request to your siblings one at a time. Harder to ignore. Tell your mother what you have done and the outcome, reminding her of your agreement.

If, again, no takers, again remind her of the agreement, tell her you love her and present her with a contract for her to sign with a direct debit form from her bank.

The contract should have a notary stamp after/when she signs it as you will likely need it to defend yourself to your siblings when your mother passes.

good luck
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It’s not crazy…you’re being a daughter that appears to care and love her mother (I’m there as we speak, except I’m an only child). Try to do this, contact the employer and ask to speak with the hiring personnel; see if you can explain your situation at the time you rescinded your interest and advise them that you want the position, if it is available. Try to place your mother either in a facility or senior care center, speak to her doctor about options or assistance to care for her while she’s with you by a caregiver…and contact your siblings and tell them that there are no exceptions or drop her off at their place…. Don’t ask them for help. Tell them to do it.

Note: If your dream job employer contacted you there’s a reason for it. There may not be that many other qualified candidates which means the position may still be available. It’s worth a shot. Don’t let go of your dreams. Take it from someone who has walked in your shoes. We have our own lives to live as well. Wishing you all the best 🫶🏻
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You are not being treated fairly. If nobody is willing to step up, take mom to ER so that the social services/case management department can help her get placement.
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Is that dream job still available?
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Tough decisions….no wonderful answer. Personally I do what I do for my mom because no one wanted the job {brother} and I love her. She was a great mom who happened to get old {91} and demented. Did I enjoy these past 6 years?….…NO. I have lost my retirement. I am getting old myself..74. Make a decision then stick to it before you get old…moms now days can live to 100-105!
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“I have been caring for mom for two years without help from any of you. I am taking a job now and it is up to one of you to take over caring for mom. If not one of you is willing to step up, then you can help mom find her new home in assisted living of her or your choice. My last day with mom will be ———. “ And do it. You have been abused and underpaid long enough. Some people who love their moms above all, will not understand your decision. All moms are not created equal and the way you have been treated by yours kind of proves it.
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Gina6418: Unfortunately you should not have given up your dream job.
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I think you do it as you do love her, but that often leads to unrealistic commitments.

Even I got mad reading it when you said you gave up a job you really wanted for this. Pay aside, this is a job you wanted.

I have not read all comments yet, but can your mom pay for outside help?

In response to your question: Are you crazy? Yes, in a way, not for thinking the pay is low but for doing it anyway

I was a relationship seminar once. The counselor who led the seminar said he always gets gripes from say a woman (or a man) asking why the significant other is doing such crazy things, why are they behaving this way.

The counselor said the right question is not why are the other people this way, the question is why are you staying with someone who acts that crazy

And it sort of applies here
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I am sitting here reading your post like a person who is watching a horror movie yelling "don't go in the basement!" except I was yelling "no no NO!!! Don't give up that job offer!". Never jeopardize your future to accommodate someone else. They will never appreciate it. But the damage is done. Now you need to fix this mess. Start looking for a new job. Even if it isn't a dream job but a good one TAKE IT! Do not worry about someone filling in for you. NOT YOUR PROBLEM. Save yourself. If your mom is capable of lowering your pay she is capable of hiring someone else to look after her.

I was out of work for a bit and my father thought that meant I had more time to drive him around. What I didn't have was money to fill my gas tank and I told him as much. He was offended! How could expect him to pay for my gas. I informed him I wasn't expecting him to pay for my gas, I was telling him I couldn't do this because I couldn't afford the gas.
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I am in the exact same position….please listen to what you need to be successful. I would not quit your job, I have been looking for work for over a year. I would allow someone else to manage your mother. I needed $400 a month for travel expense, just to get there and back with tolls and gas,and they were hard pressed to pay me that. And then I became ill, and social security doesn’t cut it. And don’t let go of your job. I am better now, and am job hunting full time, and I hope to keep working for eight more years.
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What is your mother's situation? Get help for your mother, either at home or a facility. Do not expect your family to help, nor provide more help for your mother so you can keep working to avoid going homeless.

Try to get back your real dream job. If you decide to work for yourself, do so legally. Remember, job-hopping is never a good situation. What will you say to employers to apply for new work, and how do you know employers will trust your reliability? Your siblings also need their own jobs to fund their own retirements.
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I'm in a similar situation, I have 3 brothers that never call to check on us or ask if I need time away, but I'm 65 now and get medicare, but there are some days it's so hard my mother is 91 with dementia & is now bedridden & unfortunately has bed sores she is under hospice care, so that is some help, hang in there! I pray and cry a lot. I also miss out on a lot of outings with friends, but I love my mother & couldn't put her in a nursing home, she was there before for rehab & at one facility she came home with half of her face bruised & at another facility she fell & fractured her clavicle! I
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Shayann Feb 2025
Me too. Same situation. Alone. Four older siblings. He's bedridden, dementia, and other conditions. No calls, no help. Very rare if anyone asks if he, or I, are doing ok. I won't put him in a nursing home. It's hard.
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I am so sorry to hear all about this betrayal.
You were trying to do the right thing and help/care for someone you love that helped/cared for you. I feel your siblings should have at least had the decency to call you and talk about the issue. Even if the could not or did not want to care for her. They could have helped you work on a solution. So many people these days are ALL ABOUT THEMSELVES, and the hell with anyone else. I believe you have a good heart and did what you felt was right. Now you are seeing that your mom may have changed in her personality (or maybe not), and you can also see that all of your siblings have left you and your mom with no offers of any type of help. I would agree with other people here, that you also have to care for yourself, as you can see, it is not even like your own family will care enough about you. I can see you live your family, and that is a wonderful, loyal, loving quality. I would now shift into finding a new solution for your mother’s care, so you can give some care to yourself. Your siblings do not have to do anything, but that does not excuse that they should have shown love and care towards your mom and you. That is what family is all about. At least it should be in my opinion. In life some people are like elephants, kind, loyal, smart, and living. Others are like sharks and could care less about family. Best of luck to you, and I am sorry you were let down. Your mom probably cut the pay because she knows it will run out. I hope she is able to appreciate all you have done for her.
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No you not crazy, I’m experiencing the same. My wife has 3 son who act as if their mother has passed away. Zero communication from her sons.
She does have a wonderful daughter that will take over if needed.
Daughter lives 3 hours away, so I’m thinking of moving, which is ok.
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You need to put her into care as it seems that the other siblings don’t care and why should it be up to you to care for her all by yourself
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I’m 57 years old and I have been living with my Mom for over 18 years. I didn’t have a full time factory job that paid more than $25,000 a year before taxes and benefits. So I couldn’t live on my own and my Mom was 76 years old back in 2006 when I moved in a 2 bedroom 2 bathroom apartment. We moved out of my older Sister’s house because it wasn’t big enough. Even has 9.5 acres of land. So my Mom has been healthy enough to live to be 93 years old with dementia and hard of hearing. If it wasn’t for my tolerance, persistence and faith I don’t know how I would’ve have had the will to survive. Well my hobbies have helped as well. Burnt out on Caregiving and I didn’t sign up for it. My Mom has Medicare so that has been a stigma.
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Igloocar Feb 2025
Why is Medicare a stigma? Everyone gets Medicare at the appropriate age! Do you perhaps mean Medicaid, which should not be a stigma, but may bother some people because it requires your income and assets to be lower than most of us would prefer?
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Ok so reality is no one wants to do more than their ‘share’
i personally do not think you shd have given up the job
Care should have been arranged for your ‘shifts’
you have made sacrifices and this was your life. Your mother and father didn’t give up their lives for their parents
I’m sure
youve done what you can but you want to pursue your own dreams now while you still can
look Into what care options are available
If your siblings feel up to their eyes as well then the tone has gone for mother to be in care and you all visit as much as you can
as for others opinions
everyone always has one!
You can no longer cope and this was your dream - you want to pursue
don’t feel bad about siblings not offering more- they prob feel the same way you do and want a break/release so will naturally feel offended even that you are allowed to jump out and they not
the solution is everyone has made sacrifices and hard conversations now about everyone rejoining their lives
it doesn’t mean you care less
find out what care options are available then call a family meeting to discuss
you can no longer cope you want a life as well and mother deserves proper care. It prob isn’t fair to ask anyone to take your responsibility ( your slot) so the conversations are for everyone’s benefits- we need to discuss next phase and that means assisted help
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Igloocar Feb 2025
Jenny10, no one else has made sacrifices except for the OP! I think you misunderstood his post.
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I think you already know the answer.
I'm glad you were able to vent. I'm sure so many people can relate!

Of course it was a mistake to let the dream job go!

And, it is not up to you to find your replacement caring for your mom.

It is up to your mother to make the decisions she needs to manage her own life!

Your siblings may or may not step up. That is not your concern.

Stop acquiescing to your mother, your family, your guilt, and go get another job!
Hopefully your dream job! Let your mother figure out what to do when you are no longer available to her!
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So you gave up a job, paying into your retirement, all benefits and perhaps retirement matching through your company to make 6$ an hour.

How are you going to fund your golden years? Struggling in your 70’s-90s doesn’t sound like fun to me.
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Sami1966 Feb 2025
I totally agree with you. You need to fund your own retirement. Do you receive health benefits working for your mom? She should be in assisted living and you should be working so you are not destitute some day. Take care of yourself. It does not mean you are a horrible daughter. Your mother is being selfish as are your siblings.
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I'm sorry you gave up your dream job and didn't get a written agreement for pay. Who's dropping your salary? Mom?
I imagine you feel stuck now. But you are not stuck. This was an excellent life lesson at an age you can still work and have your own home.
When I paid a friend to care for my husband for a day while I went to a niece's wedding 4 hours away, I paid 15 dollars an hour for a 16 hour day. Going thru an agency would cost 25 dollars an hour private pay.
You need to have a decisive talk with your Mom and your siblings. While they are retired, you still need to work to earn a descent retirement and descent social security. Social security needs you to earn and pay into it 10 years in order to get any benefits when you get to retirement age. Don't get paid under the table. Get a care contract if you decide to continue providing care. Pay taxes.
Only you can decide what your finances need to be.
Are you able to work part time when not caring for Mom on alternating weeks?
Another consideration is what compensation will you receive when your Mom dies? Most likely you will be splitting things equally with siblings who did not care for her at all.
Yes, I think the situation is crazy. Maybe it's time for Mom to pay for an agency to provide caregiving instead of you doing it.
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I'm sorry that you gave up your dream job.

I'm going to type all caps: FAMILY IS SELFISH! PERIOD!

Where you made your mistake was to tell your family so that they could sabotage your moving forward. Each time you turn down a job to move forward, you are turning down an opportunity to pay into your own social security, Medicare and future savings for your own retirement.

Get your resume out there. Pick up a part time job at a grocery store, bank teller or anything while looking for another dream job opportunity. In other words, start detaching from this nonsense. It is not your responsibility to take care of your mother.

Let your mother pay out of pocket for a home care aide. Stop believing lies. Too many caregivers have ended up homeless listening to so-called family members.

As we say in AlAnon, your best thinking got you here; meaning, where you are now in your current situation. You used a warped thinking process to land where you are. It is not up to anyone else to get you out of this mess. It starts with you. It's called self responsibility.

Get counseling to figure out what is driving your behavior to self-sabotage yourself into staying in a no win situation.
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