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Are there services that will come cleanup for my 84 y/o Dad? He has trouble sometimes holding his poop. Are there seniors citizen friendly that would come clean maybe twice a month? Would this be covered by insurance or medicare?
How about doing an enema once/day. This would empy the descending colon and your controlling his bowl movements to make this convenient. My wife has constipation and can hold a bowel movement for 3-4 days. i set her on the toilet and have her lean way forward and I then insert the nozzle and give a big squeze on the bottle and then remove. Since she's sitting on the toilet out comes the feces in a nice clean movement with little cleanup needed.
There are no on call cleaners. Personal care assistants under contract want a minimum of 4 hours on a scheduled time. Otherwise he needs MC or skilled nursing facilities. For house cleaning, there should be plenty of businesses that you can hire
That service is called a wife. They are the only ones who can be counted on to do this sort of thing for the incontinent. They don't get paid! They are required to work for free! And their services aren't covered by insurance or medicare.
No. There are no first responders of incontinence who will come and clean up your father's poop when he has an accident. No homecare agency is going to keep a caregiver 'on call' for this reason either.
He will have to get a homecare worker. Speaking as someone who did this kind of work for 25 years and now is in the business of it, no agency is going to send a caregiver out for an hour even if it's every day. It simply is not worth our time or overhead to accommodate this kind of request.
There are homecare agencies that will send caregivers to work a two-hour assignment. They are rare and will insist on a certain number of days per week, but they're out there.
As for hiring a housekeeper who would be willing to go couple times a month to clean the place including incontinent messes. Cleaning ladies clean up this kind of mess. I did for years. Your father should not be living with pee and bowel messes anywhere in his house because this is a bio-hazard that must be cleaned up immediately when it happens. It can make him and anyone else who comes into the home very sick. This kind of mess can't be left for days at a time. If he can't clean up after himself he needs some homecare help coming in DAILY. We help out with (hygiene care, medication reminders, rides to appointments, meals, companionship) and we also do basic housekeeping which would include cleaning up incontinence.
If I were you, I'd look on a caregiver website like care.com and look at a few profiles. Put up one of your own and state exactly what you're looking for. No one is going to do a one hour here or there as needed though. Get your father a private homecare worker who comes every day and makes sure things are running smoothly too. When you have a private arrangement in homecare, you negotiate the price with the caregiver. It always ends up being way cheaper than hiring an agency and the caregiver ends up making way more money.
If your father still functions safely on his own and only needs a little help, a private hire would probably be perfect for him.
Maybe look into an aid for an hour/two/per day so you'd have someone who could help when it happens. There's usually a minimum w/ agencies unless you hire someone privately. They could help w/ other things, personal care, too, if he needs that.
the key to cleaning up fecal matter is to prevent the need to clean up. If your dad is living alone, maybe he shouldn't be or Maybe dad needs a caregiver to come in daily to help him.
Dad should probably be wearing disposable incontinence underwear/briefs. And if this is a constant problem and dad is otherwise continent this might be something that should be mentioned to his doctor. If this is bouts of diarrhea there may be a medical reason. Or there may be a dietary reason.
But to answer your direct question...no there are not people that will come in and clean fecal matter a few times a month. You can get a housecleaner that will come on a schedule but if they are constantly cleaning up fecal matter they will refuse to continue. And no this would not be covered by insurance.
You can probably have the home cleaned, shampoo, but I warn, it's pricey. They cleaned every aspect in my aunt's house, from floors to ceilings, walls, to windows, inside out. Mattresses, bathrooms. It was pricey, but worth it. Unfortunately, the mess came back again within two days or so. Now having someone physically clean your loved one, that, I do not know, unless you have the money to pay for someone to do this. I imagine this, too, will be very pricey.
No there aren't such services, and of course if this is a a daily ongoing problem it would be impossible to predict when such care would be needed. That would require 24/7 home care which isn't affordable. It is time, when there is chronic incontinence that family cannot/does not wish to address, to consider placement in-facility.
Are you saying this happens maybe twice a month or you’d wait for clean up to happen twice a month? Either way, not covered by Medicare or any insurance I know of, and hard to find a caregiver who will not require more hours of employment than twice a month
Seriously? Are you asking for a "senior citizen friendly" housekeeper to come over twice a month to clean up old, crusted feces your father leaves around? I really, really doubt it. Housekeepers are not interested in scrubbing old, biohazardous materials off of surfaces and I don't blame them. Place your father in Assisted Living but in the meantime, be sure he's wearing disposable briefs. Medicare doesnt even cover disposable briefs, nevermind housekeeping services.
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APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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So how are you going to help that, AARP?
He will have to get a homecare worker. Speaking as someone who did this kind of work for 25 years and now is in the business of it, no agency is going to send a caregiver out for an hour even if it's every day. It simply is not worth our time or overhead to accommodate this kind of request.
There are homecare agencies that will send caregivers to work a two-hour assignment. They are rare and will insist on a certain number of days per week, but they're out there.
As for hiring a housekeeper who would be willing to go couple times a month to clean the place including incontinent messes. Cleaning ladies clean up this kind of mess. I did for years. Your father should not be living with pee and bowel messes anywhere in his house because this is a bio-hazard that must be cleaned up immediately when it happens. It can make him and anyone else who comes into the home very sick. This kind of mess can't be left for days at a time. If he can't clean up after himself he needs some homecare help coming in DAILY. We help out with (hygiene care, medication reminders, rides to appointments, meals, companionship) and we also do basic housekeeping which would include cleaning up incontinence.
If I were you, I'd look on a caregiver website like care.com and look at a few profiles. Put up one of your own and state exactly what you're looking for. No one is going to do a one hour here or there as needed though. Get your father a private homecare worker who comes every day and makes sure things are running smoothly too. When you have a private arrangement in homecare, you negotiate the price with the caregiver. It always ends up being way cheaper than hiring an agency and the caregiver ends up making way more money.
If your father still functions safely on his own and only needs a little help, a private hire would probably be perfect for him.
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I envision a little toilet shaped car with lights and sirens...
I'm sorry, I know it's a not funny situation, but incontinence first responders is a riot!
If your dad is living alone, maybe he shouldn't be
or
Maybe dad needs a caregiver to come in daily to help him.
Dad should probably be wearing disposable incontinence underwear/briefs.
And if this is a constant problem and dad is otherwise continent this might be something that should be mentioned to his doctor. If this is bouts of diarrhea there may be a medical reason. Or there may be a dietary reason.
But to answer your direct question...no there are not people that will come in and clean fecal matter a few times a month.
You can get a housecleaner that will come on a schedule but if they are constantly cleaning up fecal matter they will refuse to continue.
And no this would not be covered by insurance.
They cleaned every aspect in my aunt's house, from floors to ceilings, walls, to windows, inside out. Mattresses, bathrooms. It was pricey, but worth it. Unfortunately, the mess came back again within two days or so.
Now having someone physically clean your loved one, that, I do not know, unless you have the money to pay for someone to do this. I imagine this, too, will be very pricey.