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We feed him from our groceries, buy extra for what he needs that is different than our regular food. We are available 24 hours a day in anything he needs. We do his laundry, bring him his food, keep his room and his bathroom clean, take care of his medical needs including picking up his medication, giving him his medication daily, helping with all of his catheter needs, help him get a shower when ever he wants one. I just don't know where to look for what is the average cost of having him live with us and us being available for everything for him. He has a little money saved up but is not on Medicaid or hospice.

Use his funds to hire a helper so you get regular breaks. Otherwise you will not be able to keep this up without major burnout. It’s also wise to have dad accustomed to help that isn’t you. It’s not wrong for dad to pay for his groceries and needs. A big part of that is extra help. Also consider a weekend getaway or vacation sometimes. We all need breaks. I wish you peace
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First you determine how much is fair rent. If the only space he and his things occupy is a bedroom, research what the average cost of a rented room in a shared house goes for in your area. Then talk to a few homecare agencies and get a price on how much it would cost per month for a live-in caregiver companion. Explain to them what your father's needs are and let them tell you what the cost will be.

After you have done this research talk it over with your father then go to an elder law attorney and have legal contracts drawn up. Include the cost of everything. Rent, care, food, transportation, hands-on caregiving, 24-hour availability too.

Charge as much as legally possible. A nursing home or assisted living facility certanly will. An arrangement like this will likely allow for money to build up, but if it's done right through a god elder law attorney with experience in estate planning, what your father pays to you becomes Medicaid-exempt should he need to go into a care facility at some point.

Of course you can let him spend. Give him an allowance as part of the contract that comes out of what he pays. You can also let him spend what he wants off the record if that's possible. You're not trying to take all his money and assets for yourself. You woud be trying to protect them from being gobbled up in no time by a nursing home or AL facility should he need to go into one. Go and have a consultation with an elder law attorney who also does estate planning and set up something like this.
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My Mom lives in a house next door to me that I own. I charge her the bare minimum of rent based upon the annual averaged cost of property taxes, insurance, some utilities, and some upkeep/maintenance. In the end it is a "pass-through", not a profit from her paying rent. Then I charge her separately for the food I buy and prep for her, it comes out of her account monthly automatically. I adjust it annually, it's a more loosey-goosey number. I do not charge for any other help I give her.

I have durable PoA for her and an understanding that if/when she becomes unsafe in that house or I become overwhelmed by her care that she WILL go to a facility (there's a great one 3 miles from our house that my MIL was in) OR she has to pay in-home aids hourly, which is very expensive (and a lot of management and coordination still).

Never promise to never transition him into a good facility. Make sure you talk to an elder law attorney about the PoA and other documents, and how to manage your Dad's finances clearly so that if/when he needs Medicaid there's nothing to prevent him from qualifying.

Make sure you understand what hospice care involves (they do take over most of the hands-on caregiving -- that will still be yours to do and then some).
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Geaton777 1 hour ago
Correction in the last sentance:

"...(they do NOT take over most of the hands-on caregiving...)"
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If he has little to pay you for his care then you will become poorly paid for long hours. Also if he does pay, you need to enter a contract with him and include your "windfall" in your taxes. When he becomes eligible for Medicaid, you need those traceable data. Otherwise Medicaid might look at it as gifting and delay coverage. I am sure you would not like that if his care becomes 24/7 until he qualifies.
He might also qualify now for extra hel0 at home with Medicaid, which will give you a break. When ready for full time care, he can be covered by Medicaid in a nursing home. Work on this early rather than in crisis. See if you can contact your town social services for information on Medicaid as a start
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Do a search for the cost of caregivers in your area.
I would do what it costs per hour not as a live in since it does not sound like you are having to do caregiving around the clock. (changing a brief at 3:00am, repositioning him every 2 hours things like that)

I would also have an agreement drawn up.
this can prove helpful if there is ever a time when there are questions as to where his assets have gone.
I would also indicate at what point you would no longer be able to care for him safely and what he would do. (Hire caregivers, move to a facility that would be able to safely manage his care)
Also if you do not have POA for Health and Finances get that done. Also make sure you are aware of his wishes for End of Life.
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He can pay you, but you should have a caregiver agreement. Do a search on the internet for "caregiver agreement for family member." A caregiver agreement will comply with Medicaid requirements as long as it contains the required provisions and is prepared according to your state's laws. You can do it yourself but don't just make things up.
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Standard rent would be 1/3 of the costs you incur on a monthly basis if there are 3 of you living in the home. Include food, mortgage, taxes, bills, etc. Draw up a contract that you all sign.
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Fawnby 17 hours ago
Rent, but then add an hourly fee for care?
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