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I would not do this with a MC resident. Any restrictions would be the facilities. I may take the resident out for a few hours but you can't change the daily routine of someone who suffers from Dementia. They do not do well with change.
I too have to ask...if your loved one is so "high functioning" why are they now living in a memory care facility? Or are you the one in denial that they're actually much worse off than you think? Regardless of the answer, removing anyone with dementia out of their daily routine can be very difficult on them as folks with dementia need routine to survive well. Yes you can take them out of their routine, but often there will be hell to pay when you do. And then the facility has hell to pay when the person is returned to them and has to calm them back down, and try and get them back in their routine that was disrupted. It's really hard on the person with dementia to have to have these unnecessary disruptions and try and bounce back from them. It really should be now about what is best for your loved one and their wellbeing and not about you and what you want. I'm just saying as someone who's late husband had dementia and absolutely HATED when I had to disrupt his routine whether to take him to the doctor or even just having family over to visit. So needless to say I tried very hard not to disrupt his routine any more than I absolutely had to. I hope you will do the same for your loved one.
My mom's MC facility takes some residents out on field trips. One woman goes on cruises with her brother. She gets to leave to shop with an assistant at the local grocery store. She seems pretty sharp, but shows signs of advancing Parkinson's. My mom on the other hand does not do well when she returns from a fun trip. She is OK with leaving to visit a doctor, but fun trips cause her stress. I don't think she has fully recovered from her May trip to the mountains. Some people handle it better I think.
That's one of those things that's okay until it's not. Everything goes smoothly until they have a meltdown for the first time, poop in their pants for the first time, cry uncontrollably, or refuse to get in the car. Or worse, try to get out of the car when it's moving. Then you find out they are not as high functioning as you thought.
If you decide to do this, be prepared for the unexpected, and good luck.
I know none of these responses were the answer you were looking for but wanted to add that, with today’s technology, you can include MC residents in family life via FaceTime or something similar. Most elderly just want to spend a few minutes in the hubbub anyway. They want to see everyone having a nice time and know they are being thought of.
I would not recommend or encourage you to do this. Remember why your LO got moved to memory care in the first place. Taking them for overnight home visits is not a good idea. Disrupting the daily routine of a person with dementia can cause serious setbacks in whatever level of independence they still have.
Please read all the comments here with special attention to Fawnby's who is telling you pretty straight. Are you prepared for the hysterical meltdown when it's time to go back to the facility? Or the incontinence? Or (God forbid) they wander off or try to exit a moving car? All of these things happen when you're dealing with dementia. Don't do it.
I would discuss this with the individual facility. I am afraid I agree with others that this may not long work, but if you have the rare individual it HAS worked for, and it's efficacious to all, discuss with his or her facility.
There are or can be restrictions. I would discuss this with the facility and find out what their policy is.
First I do not think this is a good idea for a MC resident. they begin, or should begin to think of the staff as people that they can trust and depend on. If you remove a resident from that they have to "relearn" to trust the facility staff again.
If you do an extended visit away from the facility they will most likely charge you for the time your LO is away. So you will be charged for all the "extras" as well. If you are charged a flat fee that includes laundry, medication dispensing, 3 meals you will still pay that same fee. And if any part of the fees are covered by Medicare, Medicaid or other insurance each of those may have restrictions as to how long a resident can be gone and still keep the bed open. (there may be others that need the bed/room)
Why did you place this LO to begin with if she's so high functioning, with dementia, in a Memory Care Assisted Living facility?? I'm curious because most elders in such a position would be beyond furious to have been placed in such a situation!
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APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
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APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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Or are you the one in denial that they're actually much worse off than you think?
Regardless of the answer, removing anyone with dementia out of their daily routine can be very difficult on them as folks with dementia need routine to survive well.
Yes you can take them out of their routine, but often there will be hell to pay when you do. And then the facility has hell to pay when the person is returned to them and has to calm them back down, and try and get them back in their routine that was disrupted.
It's really hard on the person with dementia to have to have these unnecessary disruptions and try and bounce back from them.
It really should be now about what is best for your loved one and their wellbeing and not about you and what you want. I'm just saying as someone who's late husband had dementia and absolutely HATED when I had to disrupt his routine whether to take him to the doctor or even just having family over to visit.
So needless to say I tried very hard not to disrupt his routine any more than I absolutely had to.
I hope you will do the same for your loved one.
If you decide to do this, be prepared for the unexpected, and good luck.
Please read all the comments here with special attention to Fawnby's who is telling you pretty straight. Are you prepared for the hysterical meltdown when it's time to go back to the facility? Or the incontinence? Or (God forbid) they wander off or try to exit a moving car? All of these things happen when you're dealing with dementia. Don't do it.
I would discuss this with the facility and find out what their policy is.
First I do not think this is a good idea for a MC resident.
they begin, or should begin to think of the staff as people that they can trust and depend on. If you remove a resident from that they have to "relearn" to trust the facility staff again.
If you do an extended visit away from the facility they will most likely charge you for the time your LO is away. So you will be charged for all the "extras" as well. If you are charged a flat fee that includes laundry, medication dispensing, 3 meals you will still pay that same fee.
And if any part of the fees are covered by Medicare, Medicaid or other insurance each of those may have restrictions as to how long a resident can be gone and still keep the bed open. (there may be others that need the bed/room)