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My Mum has been a really awful person for as long as I can remember. Awful to anyone and everyone; from the waitress her brings her coffee to her grandchildren who she supposedly loves.


No one treats her the way she wants to be treated.


She kicked out my youngest sibling when she was in high school. Luckily I am 10 years older and was able to take her in so she could finish high school. She says really nasty things. She is racist, ablest and aggressive.


Over the years all of her six children, except for me, have gone no contact. There is never one thing, it is years or nasty and then the final straw and they say they are done. Her siblings who live interstate and overseas have all gone no contact. My father left her years ago. He isn’t a very nice person either. He left when the youngest kid was 18 and never looked back. He doesn’t want anything to do with anyone. I have no idea where he is.


I have tried to express my feelings to her when she has been particularly nasty to me. But like she does with everyone she just gets angry and leaves. Or she will deny she ever did or said whatever horrible thing. She loves to tell me about the relationships other people have with their children. They love their mum. I don’t love her. I help you out of guilt and obligation.


When my children were babies I never for a second thought that I could rely on my mum. After the birth of my first I told her I was home from the hospital and she sent me her shopping list and said she wasn’t feel well could I do it for her? She would visit and I was exhausted, the house a mess and she would just sit there telling me her problems and saying “I would love a cup of tea”. There were times I would have to tell her that I needed to sleep and she would not care. She would just talk about how tired she was. If I said I was going to bed she would get angry and yell about how she is my mother and therefore I should do this or that. And she wouldn’t treat her mother like that (her mother was not in the same country)



Her nasty has now extended to her grandchildren and their partners. She sent out a text message accusing them of treating her badly. They do not want to deal with her anymore.
I am the last one to not block her. I barely speak to her. I only reply to text messages with emoji’s. I find this way she cannot pick apart my response and accuse it of not being the right behavior/response/action on my part.
She is moving and I have offered to help. But I know she will corner me and say what she loves to say “why am I being excluded. What have I done wrong? Why won’t anyone talk to me? How can I fix it if they won’t tell me?”
Do I cut her off too? I feel like any advice I give her she will get really angry about. If I suggest she sees a therapist she will be angry. Do I play dumb?
Maybe there is no answer. Perhaps I’m just wondering if anyone understands.

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If your M “has been a really awful person for as long as I can remember”, she will have had many many experiences of family and friends telling her why they are walking away from her. One more time from you will achieve nothing.

Why have you offered to help her move, when you don’t even text her except for emojis? You say “I know she will corner me”. Give contact details for a moving firm, and stay minimum contact. I worked for a judge earlier in my live, whose mantra was ‘don’t stick your a””s out to be kicked’.
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I’m sorry you’ve never had the mother you needed or deserved. It seems pretty clear from your description she has lifelong mental illness of some sort that’s gone undiagnosed but is present and dominant nevertheless. People have wisely distanced themselves to protect their own emotional health for good reason. Only you know if you can or should continue to communicate with her. Protecting yourself is never wrong. Never try to justify or explain yourself, it won’t work. Neither will trying to make her see or understand her behavior. I wish you healing and peace
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I've had horrible parents at times. They took turns being awful. My mother was so mean to me after dad left home. I joined Al-Anon and was told when she starts up with the verbal abuse to go outside on the porch and take a flashlight and my ODAT. The One DAY AT A TIME was a daily reader of Al-Anon approved literature. I remember sitting outside on the porch at night in my coat with a blanket, flashlight and book while my mother ranted and raged in a sometimes drunken stupor saying horrible things that would probably make Satan cringe. She would terrorize me if I stayed in the house.

My advice to anyone with an abusive parent is to remember that the umbilical cord was cut at birth. All womb donors were not cut out for motherhood.

Don't help this person move and block your number. You noticed I didn't use the word mother but person. I wouldn't bother about answering her about why everyone stopped calling or coming around. People can speak for themselves.

Don't further traumatized yourself having conversations with her.

Both of my parents are deceased. I haven't visited either one of their graves in ten years.
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BurntCaregiver Jan 2025
OMG, Scampie. That's terrible. My mother was not an alcoholic but she would rant, rave, and escalate. One time when I was a teenager she went too far and I got physical. That's when I took my younger sibling and we left.

I still have an ODAT from Al-Anon and I still read it. Every caregiver should have one and a copy of the Serenity Prayer. I can't tell you how many times saying that prayer saved me from losing my temper.
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There is an answer. Be honest. Tell she has alienated everyone in the family from her because of her miserable treatment of them, and that you have finally had enough too. Then say goodbye, block her yourself, and don't look back. Why do you deserve to be treated this way? You don't. Please get some therapy for yourself to understand that, and to be able to live the rest of your life in happiness and peace of mind. THAT is what you deserve.
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I don't have any answer, but I surely do have a question.
You are not a child anymore, but an adult; why are you having ANYTHING whatsoever to do with this person?
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Get out of the FOG...(fear obligation, guilt)
You owe her nothing.
No matter what you do or don't do she will not change.
I do not think you should help her move. She can hire people to help her.
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You tell her the truth. Because your a nasty person with no sympathy or empathy. You feel the world should revolve around you. Sorry Mom, it doesn't. When someone loses a husband, children and now grands, its not everyone else, its you.

Then you become the last child to have nothing to do with her. If you can't do that, then you are going to need boundaries. And I guess you already know, don't ever take her in or live with her.
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IF you insist to continue helping, 'Sorry mom, you'll need to ask them. I'm not a mind reader.' ad nauseum. Then grey rock the rest of the time.
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Yes, you also cut her off.
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Tell your mother that you are not going to speak for other people . Tell her that is between her and them and you will not get in the middle .
Rinse and repeat when she complains she can’t fix it if they won’t talk .

Mom is trying to get you to do her bidding . Classic pitting one child against the rest .

I would encourage your grown children to ignore her and her nasty messages.

It’s up to you if you want to cut ties .
Her behavior will not change.
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