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Medicaid is a number of different programs. Each has its payment systems done uniquely. Like Medicaid as health insurance is different than Medicaid paid for services done thru Community Based Medicaid programs (like in home healthcare) or done thru Medicaids LTC program (paying for custodial care cost to a NH or for AL / MC thru a waiver). Which is it?
If your family member had died and this ? is about concerns on Estate Recovery, whether or not your State uses an outside contractor for this, will make a difference.
Also if they were enrolled in hospice or in a PACE, that will matter.
I know this isn’t an answer….. but you have to know which program your concern is based on. It makes a difference.
From what I understand, the amount usually depends on the state since Medicaid is run a little differently everywhere. The best way is to call your state’s Medicaid office and ask for the estate recovery or collections department — they can tell you if there’s any balance owed. I’ve also heard some people request an official accounting in writing so they know exactly what’s on record. If you share your state, folks here might be able to point you to the right number or website
Has the person on Medicaid passed? If so, call their caseworker and ask for a letter telling you what the recovery amount is. No amount will be given until the person dies I don't think.
I did this and when I had not heard from recovery in the 3 months after Mom passed, I called them. I had a house to sell and needed that lien placed. She was on Medicaid 3 months and owed about 6k. Mom had a tax lien but no other debts. That tax lien comes before Medicaid. I think all debts have to be met before Medicaid gets what they are owed. If Mom had not had the house, I would not have worried about recovery because she had no other assets and I could not be held responsible.
From what I was told recovery had no record of Moms death. A letter should have gone to her LTC facility asking for contact information of the POA or person down as the contact. Once that info is received, then a form goes to the POA or contact to be filled out. If the person has no assets, then thats it. No recovery. If they do, that info is listed. For me it was a house and a lien placed. The assets allowed (my state 2k) go to the persons estate as does any money in the Personal Needs Acct. This money does not revert back to Medicaid.
This post is from August. I suggest you make your own post on the forum. Also, Medicare and Medicaid are two different things. Medicare is a health insurance you receive at 65. Yoy never owe Medicare you owe the providers. Medicaid is a program for low income people. It does provide healthcare and Longterm care in a vacility. I answered this question below how to find out how much is owed to Medicaid.
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I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
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Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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Medicaid is a number of different programs. Each has its payment systems done uniquely. Like Medicaid as health insurance is different than Medicaid paid for services done thru Community Based Medicaid programs (like in home healthcare) or done thru Medicaids LTC program (paying for custodial care cost to a NH or for AL / MC thru a waiver). Which is it?
If your family member had died and this ? is about concerns on Estate Recovery, whether or not your State uses an outside contractor for this, will make a difference.
Also if they were enrolled in hospice or in a PACE, that will matter.
I know this isn’t an answer….. but you have to know which program your concern is based on. It makes a difference.
I am reporting to have it closed for comments.
I did this and when I had not heard from recovery in the 3 months after Mom passed, I called them. I had a house to sell and needed that lien placed. She was on Medicaid 3 months and owed about 6k. Mom had a tax lien but no other debts. That tax lien comes before Medicaid. I think all debts have to be met before Medicaid gets what they are owed. If Mom had not had the house, I would not have worried about recovery because she had no other assets and I could not be held responsible.
From what I was told recovery had no record of Moms death. A letter should have gone to her LTC facility asking for contact information of the POA or person down as the contact. Once that info is received, then a form goes to the POA or contact to be filled out. If the person has no assets, then thats it. No recovery. If they do, that info is listed. For me it was a house and a lien placed. The assets allowed (my state 2k) go to the persons estate as does any money in the Personal Needs Acct. This money does not revert back to Medicaid.