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GinaMom, please go to your Private Messages.
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ginamomgoodman Sep 2020
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Dear, i will set a bottle of cold beer on the step outside after you drink this tall glass of water with shaved ice, lemon, and a droplet of juice. and maybe a swig of vodka to help keep it down. Mios drinks.. thy have caffein in the them, vitamins, taste good. I might help.. Green Matcha tea with lemon is wonderful. anyway, before he drinks- offer him a glass water.
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To go to your private messages, click on your avatar(symbol, picture) and the click "profile". Your private messages are there.

Gina, you keep asking for suggestions.

We keep telling you to call 911.

Why won't you do that?

You husband is dying. He is suffering from insufficient oxygen to his brain. He is not thinking clearly. YOU need to be the one in charge now.

You have 2 choices. One is to call a local hospice organization. They will send someone to examine him. The other is to call 911 and have the EMTs examine him.

I would certainly fear not doing anything and allowing him to die unattended. If he dies with no evidence of medical care, you will be asked why you didn't summon care for him.

You don't talk your husband into letting you call for help. YOU call for help.

There is a hospice organization in Hesperia called Amazing Grace Hospice.

Call the doc in the AM and ask "Is it time to call hospice if my husband won't go to the hospital?"

(((((((Hugs))))))))
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GinaMom,
You don't know how to go to your private messages. There is no reason I cannot post here for you, as I know the feeling. I am still learning my way around the page after more than a year.
Gina, is your husband still entirely rational? Is this the reason you are not "taking things into your own hands" and calling 911? Or do you not understand that your husband may be now ACTIVELY dying? Have you asked your Husband "Hon, do you want me to call 911 if I cannot arouse you; if I believe that you are dying".
You say that your husband said "They cannot do anything" if he goes to ER. Indeed, that may be the case. IF that is the case then your Doctor will order hospice. There should be paperwork called a POLST in place so ambulance drivers don't attempt to resuscitate (if legal in your state).
But it is time for all of you, husband, you and doctor, to talk about all of this and make decisions.
It is time to face the fact that your husband may be dying of his cirrhosis. There is nothing that we on forum can do to help you. You must have the help and advice of medical care whatever the decisions are. If you knowingly allow a dying person to simply die you could be accused of neglect. This is what we are trying to prevent for you. I think it unlikely, with his history, and the way he will "present" now (look).....but it is a possibility. And it may leave you questioning yourself as to what you "should have/could have done".
I am so relieved you have an appointment today. However, if anything happens to prevent this "appointment" you must call 911 and have your husband taken to the hospital. (With your description of late I can't imagine how you will get him to an appointment at this time). THERE they will document his refusal for treatment even if such decision does indeed take him more quickly.
We are all on the Forum worried for you both. Our thoughts are with you. We wish you both only the best that can be.
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ginamomgoodman Sep 2020
Yes my husband is lucid, and always tells me not to worry, he says the swelling is because of his drinking and that he only has a bleeding hemorrhoid. Yes, I continually tell him I want to take him to the emergency room, but he does not want me to. He will be talking to his primary tomorrow, they said the doctor is not available today, so his normal appt is tomorrow. He sleeps, and still eats as much as he can, says he gets hungry which is good. I do see sometimes he has to take a breath, but for the most part he is very lucid, knows everything that is happening. He’s not cold, just won’t stop drinking beer, even though he is not drinking as much, he is still drinking it. Lots of congestion, but now he is not spitting up the foam from the beer.
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GinaMom can you give us an update. Many of us are concerned about you.
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sounds like he is very depressed and accepting the outcome, whatever that may be for him.
POST AND DNR FORMS SHOULD BE IN PLACE.
LIVING TRUST AND/OR WILL SHOULD BE IN PLACE.
LOVE AND COMPASSION SHOULD BE IN PLACE.
911 cannot help him, if he does not want to be helped. If it is physical, perhaps he doesn't have the physical energy to help himself through that process.
feed him water. and if he feels he needs the taste of beer, well, put a spot in it for him to taste. after reading this, I need to slow down too, and stop the fast food. The fast food is slowing me down too. Nothing in my kitchen is fresh from the garden... :( except my lemon tree. I do use those in my water everyday. If yo see a lemon tree in your neighborhood with actual fruit, stop, knock on door and ask for a couple.. they seem to help me a bit. I met a lot of people by giving the fruit that is covering that tree...
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