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I have tried for two years to get POA Starting when she was still doing ok and my father was still alive. She steadfastly refuses and now since my father is gone (her dementia led to an earlier than needed death) she has gotten much worse. She is furious with me to the point of threatening me physically when I try to help. She hasn’t paid her bills for what turns out to be at least a year, let her insurance lapse and still owes taxes from last year. I have been able to help with a few things and she has signed a release so I can talk with her doctor. My brother has been released from prison and is also trying to help (he lives with her) but she doesn’t trust him either. I have talked to the family attorney and he suggested seeking conservatorship but I am sure she will refuse which means taking her to court - something that will take time and she might loose her house before we can get it accomplished. Does anyone have some advice about what I can do to get help that doesn’t require a lot of money. I feel like declaring her incompetent is costly and time consuming plus she can seem ok for short periods oftime.

What a nightmare. I’m so sorry. Have you tried calling the police when she gets violent and/or contacting adult protective services about her inability to care for herself? I don’t have personal experience with this, but I have read on this forum that very often the state can get a conservatorship much easier than an individual.

It’s late now but I hope others will chime in soon with more suggestions for you.
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If you want to help by legally managing her affairs then you will need to work through the courts. I don't think there's anything more you can do to achieve this end except what you're already doing, which is working with an attorney towards conservatorship/guardianship.

If she has a fit of violence or a medical emergency, then you call 911 and once she's in the ER you can explain to the discharge planner that she's an "unsafe discharge" and is refusing care and management at home (and do NOT tell them your brother is living there or else none of this strategy will work -- they will assume she has a caregiver and discharge her anyway). Then ask to talk to a hospital social worker to see if she can be transitioned directly into a facility. After that you will still need to get legal control through the courts but at least she won't be at home.

I'm so sorry for this distressing situation. I wish you success in getting her appropriate care.
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This sounds like sundowning behavior. When she threatens you, keep a safe distance from her.

People with dementia will sometimes have periods of lucid behavior that is short lived. If you can offer care during these moments, she may agree to help.

However, depending how violent she gets, please call the ambulance and have her taken to the emergency room. Tell them that she is not able to function on the outside, and that she has stopped paying bills, stopped self-care, bathing and keeping up her home.

She may showtime to get out of a diagnosis and return back home against her better judgment. It may take several ER visits before people catch on.

I'm sorry that you are having such a hard time with mom.
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You seem to be following all of the step, and are doing all the things that I would recommend.

It is, however, now that dementia is a certainty, far too late for POA. That can only be conferred upon you by a competent adult.

The seeking of conservancy to save the home, if the home is paid for and of value, is worth the cost, but you would need to start with thorough evaluation through her MD and thru consult by neuro-psyc, and would have to start with a battery of letters and examples from her bankers or the companies involved that she is in arrears on her bill-paying.

The other last ditch try I will suggest to you is that you take all you have told us to APS and let them know she is a senior endangered by herself and in need of consult. They may be able to get you, with a call to a Judge, a temporary guardianship.

You can call EMS with any attacks on person, and that will help, with hospital social workers, in getting assessment started.
I'm just so sorry you're going through this.
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Your mother has dementia and is clearly suffering from Sundowning. Please do what Scampie1 is advising. She has been in caregiving for many years. I have as well for 25 years and am now in the business of it. We've seen this. Avoid her as much as possible whe she is sundowning and under no circumstances should you try to reason with her or try to calm her down. Just leave her as is. If she gets too crazy or violent call the police and explain what's happening. In fact, you should visit the police department and ask them to do regular wellness checks on her. They will for free and this will look good if you petition the court for conservatorship/guardianship of her.

Next, give a call to your state's Agency on Aging and one to Legal Aid in your state. I was advised well by an elder law attorney for free through them when I didn't have money and needed legal advice. Most lawyers in practice offer free initial consultations too.

You can petition the court yourself for conservator/guardianship of your mother without a lawyer. You will have to show documentation that she is not competent to make her own decisions. Keep this in mind though. If you get conservatorship/guardianship and the plan is to keep her home, your brother who just go out of prison will not be allowed to live with her. He will have to leave because when a conservatorship/guardianship is court-ordered the person who has it regularly has to answer to the judge. Financial records have to be shown, the living situation as well.

The court will appoint a lawyer who represents your mother that she will be responsible to pay. Any time someone tries to get conservatorship or POA over an adult through the court this is so. The lawyer will not be free. You do not need to have one, but you should and if you are given conservatorship/guardianship of your mother, you may use her funds to pay for any legal fees including any lawyer you hadto retain.
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next time she gets Physically violent with you or threatens abuse call 911 they can take her to the ER Place her Under Observation and Make a formal diagnosis . No One should be afraid of someone Physically Hurting them .
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Generally when you apply in probate, You will get a court date and she will receive a letter of that date. She will have to hire her own counsel and appear in court on that date to contest. Would she be able to do it on her own? You do not help her here. Her competency has to be proved on her own. Ideally you should get a letter of competency for her doctor to fill out.
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Hello. Please buy some St John's Wort extract, it will help her with the agitation. Also try to give her some finger foods so her mind focuses elsewhere. Due to disturbance in her neurotransmitters her brain gets in an out of control mode. She needs your help. All dementia patients experience these symptoms. But they need help.
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LoopyLoo Sep 14, 2025
Yes she does need help.

But not from herbs or snacks!
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Do you have financial and medical POA to handle these things for her? Or is it too late?

You can file for guardianship in probate court in your county. You can obtain the forms online, fill them out and take them to the court. You will be assigned a hearing date and you will present the facts to the court. You do not need a lawyer, I did it myself.

Of course if it is granted, then you will have responsibility for everything for her. If she is uncooperative and combative, you might not want the responsibility and heartache involved.

If you do nothing, and she has no one else looking out for her, eventually she will become a ward of the state and probably lose everything. It is a such pity to go down this rabbit hole, for everyone.

I wish you much peace.
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Become your mom's court appointed Guardian, so you can make financial and health decisions. This is easier with refusing discharge in the hospital. Your mom can be declared incapacitated and you can sell her house to move her into assisted living.
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We did two IVCs on my mom, getting her into the hospital under observation for a week each. The second time the doctor wrote a letter to me stating mom was not competent to make her own decisions. The social worker said mom was not safe to live alone. I got her placed in a memory care facility and sold her home and vehicle. She is much, much better now, though in the past week I've noticed a major slowing down, far less energy. I'm glad we got her placed before she hurt herself or lost her house through foreclosure.
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Jillyjelly1969: Prayers forthcoming.
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If she doesn’t want to give you POA, taking her to court is just going to destroy the relationship further. Ask her what she wants if x-y-or-z happens and give her the respect of being an adult who raised you when you were a vulnerable child.
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