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Ever since my mother's stupid eye doctor told her she was okay to drive last week, she has been RELENTLESS. She won't drive unless I give her my blessing (thankfully), but it is so bad. In our daily phone call today, she yelled and swore at me the whole time, wanted to know why I insisted on treating her like a baby, why I don't trust her, why I want to ruin her life, why am I so unkind to her, why does she need permission from her daughter to drive when none of her friends do, etc…. (I should mention that my brother let her drive while he was visiting her this weekend, so she doesn't understand why he is so kind while I am not.)
It was so, so difficult and so frustrating and upsetting, and I am afraid I made the huge error of trying to explain and actually using the word "dementia" at one point.
I know what a huge mistake that was. That will be the main thing she remembers. But I was so shaken — I still am literally shaking — and I vomited at one point. I am not cut out for this at all. Please help me.

Your mother has dementia and should not be driving at all or living alone. Get her to a doctor for a cognitive evaluation and a score. Then she can be told she can no longer drive and that's that. If she does not accept her diagnosis she's suffering from anosognosia, the inability to recognize or acknowledge her deficits. That's not your fault either. You didn't make her old or cause these conditions. Her non acceptance of her condition does not invalidate it, either, or make it not real. An eye doctor saying she can "now drive" due to an eye issue being remedied does not mean she's capable of driving. It's time for a Come To Jesus meeting between you, your mother and your brother to talk about what comes next. That mother can no longer live alone, drive or do as she pleases. She needs help with everyday living now.

Its best to come to terms with the facts w/o making yourself sick. None of this is your fault and it's not your job to keep mother happy and to enable her every desire. Safety is paramount now. Please do get her a diagnosis so you can all come to terms with moms compromised mental state.

Best of luck to you.
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LilacGirl Mar 11, 2026
This is part of the problem. We took her to her doctor two weeks ago, thinking it was going to be a real turning point because we called him ahead of time and told him everything we were seeing. He gave her the MMSE screening test and she scored 24/30 -- just below normal. His diagnosis was "memory loss" and he just basically told her to come back in 3 months. Useless. :(

I really feel bad for telling her she has dementia in the heat of the moment. I mean, she knows she has "memory loss," but the word Dementia really upset her. She told me she would never forgive me for saying that.
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LilacGirl, you did not do anything wrong. You are keeping your mother safe. You kept her safe by not saying go ahead and drive, even under such extreme pressure. (You are also keep others out on the road safe as well.) Give yourself credit.

You've written before that you and your brother have put off getting her a formal diagnosis because it would upset her. Well, she is this upset now without the diagnosis, so there's no point in putting it off any longer, difficult as that will be.

Does she generally have a lot of anger? Is her anger escalating? This can happen as dementia increases. Her doctor(s) can prescribe medications to calm her. This not only benefits you, it benefits her because going through life with anger and frustration is not a pleasant way to live.

Do either you or your brother have your mother's POA? If so, you'll need the diagnosis to start taking care of her various matters, if she's uncooperative. Also, it should help bring your brother around to taking her car and keys away.

I'm sorry this is so rough. Please take care of yourself, and keep us posted on how things go.
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LilacGirl Mar 11, 2026
Yes we both have durable POA and we have been taking care of her finances, etc. ever since my dad died in December. I do believe a lot of her anger is based in grief and I know she is just super upset about losing all her independence, feeling like she is imprisoned in her own home, feeling prideful about asking people for rides or help--no wonder she is angry. My dad hasn't been gone that long, which is one reason we have been trying not to push too hard when it comes to moving her into AL. I have a space reserved for her now though and we just have to figure out how to get her there. (Meanwhile, see my reply to the previous answer -- we tried to get a diagnosis from her PCP 2 weeks ago, it was basically useless. But I did just reach out to that doctor to see if he can send a letter advising against driving based on her MMSE results. Will see what he does.
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Ugh that really stinks Lilac girl. Your mom will definitely melt down when the diagnosis DOES come through, that's for sure. You're in a very tough spot. Tell her you used the wrong word......you didn't mean to say dementia...you meant to say mild cognitive impairment. See how that goes. My mother was the same way. She lived in Memory Care Assisted Living but God forbid anyone use the word dementia. She was always prone to histrionics though. Take her back in 3 months and see if she does poorly on the MMSE.
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If she is really a danger on the road then it's time to get creative and preemptive with the whole driving thing.

Find neighbors, friends, other family and even church/synagogue members to call her up and say they are running errands on such-and-such day and does she need anything? Would she like to come? If you can get this to happen regularly (at least for the short term) then she at least knows she can have some freedom to look forward to.

I did this with my Aunts (both elderly, living together, one was the drive, the other the copilot). My Aunt the driver had advancing dementia so I had to report her to the state's DMV and her license didn't get renewed. This was very upsetting to 2 people. But I covertly arranged for rides and also gave the drivers a GC to my Aunt's favorite places to eat and asked the drivers to please also take them out to lunch. It took *most* of the sting out of their loss of spontaneous freedom.

My own Mother was another story. She was already fighting me on not driving so I got her primary doc to talk to her and also arrange for a Virtual Driving Assessment through the OT dept. She failed both the executive function test and physical reaction test and the OT broke the news to her and the Dept of Public Safety cancelled her license. She was still mad at me but couldn't deny her own test results. She got over it.

Then there was my uncle (Mom's brother) who, in his early 90s was driving home from his office (he was retired from his 60-truck plumbing business) along with his wife. His kids should have stopped his driving. One day he went through a red light and was t-boned on his wife's side. She (and the dog in her lap) died instantly (she was a 2-time cancer survivor) and the people in the other car had some injuries and car totalled. I'm sure his kids (my cousins) would say if they had to do it over they'd endure my uncle's anger rather than causing all that grief.

I hope this gives you the courage to continue keeping an unfit driver off the road.
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LilacGirl Mar 11, 2026
Yes, that last scenario is exactly why I am so firm about it! I do have some good news. I reached out to her PCP today and he is sending her a letter to stop driving and also reporting her to the DMV! I’m dreading the day she gets the letter. I’m sure she will blame me and maybe disown me. But I know it had to be done.
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LilacGirl, thanks for replying below. Very unfortunate about the PCP not taking your concerns seriously. That seems to happen a lot. Are you able to get her a neurologist? There's probably a wait so best to make an appointment soon. Would the PCP, if contact him privately, advise her to see one based on the "below normal" score? Or maybe she would go to try to prove you and your brother wrong.

I'm sorry about your dad. It must feel like such a cascade on you right now, especially while you're grieving too. Thank goodness you have the POA, at least.
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I'm so sorry this is happening. If I were you, I'd keep those daily phone calls short. Warn her next time she starts yelling and swearing that you won't tolerate such behavior and language, and that you will hang up if she does it again. Then do it. And don't take any calls from her. YOU decide when the two of you talk. Not her.

Your mom is abusing you. That's right, this is abuse. You don't deserve that. No one does. She's making you sick, and what good can you be for her if you're gone? As in unalive? You're shaking, vomiting, and what's next? Your heart giving out? A stroke? Wow, mom would be really mad then, but you wouldn't be around to observe it.

Help yourself by not taking any more abuse. That includes no contact at all if she doesn't respect your wishes. You're not required to die on the hill of her choosing, and you need to put yourself first. You can do it, and I wish you the best as you recover from Monster Mom. I have an idea that if you lay down the law and mean it, she might improve her behavior immediately if not sooner. Try it!
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Hang up when she starts in with you. I would also call the eye doctor and tell him you will sue the pants off him if your mother kills someone.
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Time to push back on your mother. First of all don't answer the phone every day. You don't have to, she can call someone else afterward, like your brother. Secondly tell her you aren't going to listen to her ranting at you and if she expects any help from you anymore, she better pipe down and listen. Lastly, it's just too bad if she doesn't like you or the dr saying she can't drive anymore. It isn't safe for her or anyone else on the road or crosswalk that she might hit. There comes a point when we start to parent our parents. This time has come. Be strong.
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I agree, the minute your mother becomes angry, insulting or abusive, end the phone call, and don't answer again for the rest of the day. Don't listen to her voicemails. The next day, same thing. If she starts again, hang up again. Lather, rinse, and repeat. We teach people how to treat us. And do contact her doctor about medications to calm her agitation and anger.
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Stop kicking yourself about the word “ dementia “. A lot of us have said that as a last resort .
She’s going to be mad and not understand why she can’t drive no matter what words you use .
You aren’t shaking because you used that word. You are shaking because Mom does not understand anymore because she has a broken brain and you can’t fix that.
I resorted to telling my mother to stop blaming me for taking freedoms away from her. I told her that age is doing that. I also told her “ Mom , I didn’t make you old and I can’t fix old “.
I also agree with ending the phone calls .
” Gotta go Mom , I have an appointment “. Keep visits short too
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Hope21 6 hours ago
As usual, you have great advice! My Dad is in no way abusive. BUT, he is getting tired of taking meds (and that’s when we get much needed hydration in too). Lately he has been pretty annoyed and complaining and kind of accusatory every time he has to take something. I remembered what you had said about age not being your fault, etc—so I’ve taken to responding that “Hey, I’m not the one who prescribed this stuff and I didn’t do anything to create the need to take it, I’m just following orders“( and if it’s a med that keeps something especially nasty from happening, I let him know that too)—in a light-hearted tone. That usually shuts it down!
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Did this doctor understand she has Dementia? Were you in the office when he said this to her? If not, he may jot have said that. If your Moms car iscwhere she can see it, put it somewhere else. Tell her before she drives, you want to take it to the mechanic to have it checked out. Ask sister to sell it. Out of sight out of mind.
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Were you with her at the eye doctor?

An eye doctor can only verify that a person's vision is adequate for driving, and whether or not the driver needs corrective lenses while driving. It is not within their purview to make a determination as to anything else that goes along with driving, ie. cognitive ability.

If you actually heard this doctor tell mom she was "all right" to drive, a complaint to the AMA (or whatever organization oversees ophthalmologists) might be in order. BUT - if you weren't there, it could be that mom heard what she wanted to hear and is insisting now the doctor told her she was ok to drive.

Or perhaps mom asked after her exam "So, am I ok to drive?" and he answered her as far as the eye exam told him.

In any event, you did NOT screw up; you are doing what a responsible person does when confronted with a situation as this. You are NOT required to listen to her heap abuse on you; either screen your calls or hang up when she gets nasty. She is never going to understand why she can't drive, and there isn't much you will be able to do to convince her it is no longer safe, I'm sorry to say. Just keep telling her that you will NOT give her your blessing to drive anymore.

And disable the car.
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MG8522 10 hours ago
This is a good point. I have sat in doctor appointments with people and then had them repeat only the parts that they wanted to hear and deny the negative information that the doctor clearly said. I imagine this happens even more so when describing interactions to someone who wasn't present.
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There are definite "reasons" a narcissist will maneuver their daughters into being "responsible" for their driving. Or any controlling mother can do that.

What follows is that you become her servant and are required to take on this abuse that you have described. It is not your fault that you have been brought up this way. You did not "screw up" with attempting to "explain" things.

A psychologist doing a deep-dive into your relationship with your mother would offer you techniques to cope, or advise you to withdraw from her care altogether,
for your health, and mental health going forward. This in no way implies that you are mentally ill, or the problem.

There is nothing wrong with you that has not happened to many caregiving adult daughters who are kind, wanting to help their mother, etc. Try to notice how many times you are needing to explain to all those around you. Then, just stop. Stop explaining.

As for your mother driving, tell her to ask your brother, or someone else for "permission". Make a note of the fact that no one competent to drive needs anyone's permission to drive. It could be possible that she knows unconsciously that she should not be driving, so has set you up to take responsibility to stop her.
Then, she benefits by blaming you, being angry at you.

It is perfectly okay to take the position that she should never drive in her condition,
and you will never give her your blessing to drive, so stop asking you.

Do anything to stop her from driving, secretly, in the background. Do not engage her in this topic. You will never be successful. You will be the recipient of:
"No good deed goes unpunished".

The fact that this makes you sick (shaking and vomited) could be a sign of caregiver burn-out. I don't think anyone is cut-out to take abuse without sacrificing something in themselves. So, get help for yourself. You know the truth, you don't have to prove it's true to anyone.

Your Mother. for whatever reason or conditions she has, will be continuing to target you. Getting immediate help for yourself is more important than helping her continue in this lifestyle choice. This does not mean she is a bad person.
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Oh WOW! Congratulations!
I just read what you have accomplished. Many hugs! You did it!

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22 hours ago
Yes, that last scenario is exactly why I am so firm about it! I do have some good news. I reached out to her PCP today and he is sending her a letter to stop driving and also reporting her to the DMV! I’m dreading the day she gets the letter. I’m sure she will blame me and maybe disown me. But I know it had to be done.

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GOOD FOR YOU!

Caregiver awards for you today.
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Thank you! I’m terrified about what her reaction is going to be. But I know it had to be done.
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Take a breath. You did not make a huge mistake. You pointed out the truth, even if it was hard for her to hear.

You are making a mistake, however, by trying to explain, to rationalize to your mother. You cannot explain to someone with cognitive disfunction.
When I read your story, it reminds me of a parent dealing with a teenager. You are the parent in this scenario.

If you know that it is unsafe for her to drive, why does she need your permission? Do you ever agree and let her drive? That seems kind of inconsistent.
If she is never to drive again, here's what you do: You disable the car. Or take it away. Or take away the keys.
You help her with using a ride share service or you offer to drive her.
You must act for her safety and the safety of others. She won't like it. She doesn't have to like it or agree with you. Let her know with kindness, and offer to help her through this transition by helping her to find another way to get around.
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Please be kind to yourself right now. What you're describing, the shaking, the vomiting, that's your body telling you how much you love her and how hard you're fighting for her safety. That's not weakness. That's devotion.
The driving conversation is genuinely one of the hardest in caregiving because it lives right at the intersection of safety and dignity. There's no clean way through it.
Your brother letting her drive wasn't kindness; it was avoidance. And now you're carrying both of your shares of the emotional weight. That's exhausting and unfair.
Here's something I uncovered while talking to a lot of such elderly people: what's really happening beneath her anger is that, at this stage of life, many elderly people start feeling dependent, vulnerable, and invisible. That anger isn't really about the car. It's about feeling like they're losing themselves. When an elderly person genuinely feels they are not alone, that someone is in their corner, that they still have agency over their own life, so many of these battles soften on their own. They're not fighting for the keys. They're fighting to feel whole again.
The dementia word landing the way it did, you said it because you're human and you were shaken. You can walk it back gently next time. "I was upset and didn't say it well, I just worry because I love you" covers a lot of ground.
One practical thing: call her doctor privately and share your concerns. A physician carries authority with elderly parents that we simply don't as their children. The conversation that goes nowhere with you can land completely differently coming from her doctor.
You're not screwed up. You showed up for her while literally shaking. That counts for everything. 💙
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I will bet it was an innocent question to the eye doctor who was not aware she was covering up her condition and the issue was not corrected at the time of the visit
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