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Mom is 90, lives alone at her insistence with home help 3 days a week. She is mobile, but can’t drive; caregivers take her shopping, Dr appts, etc. Significant visual and hearing impairments. She loathes all the caregivers, and we’re at the point where the agency says they are struggling to find anyone who will work with her. She absolutely refuses to even consider any sort of assisted / supervised living or selling her house. She will not eat, then complains that she’s starving. We send boxes of groceries and she throws them out. She complains that no one “comes near her,” but refuses to allow anyone around her. Got her to a geriatric neurologist; scored 9/30 on MoCA test. She has fallen several times; will not use a life alert system. She’s been reported to APS three times (a care manager, the neurologist, and when I called 911 when she was incoherent and hysterical on the phone). Each time, APS came out, said she did not qualify as a danger to herself or others, and closed the case. She can barely use a landline phone; cannot use a computer or a cell phone, let alone Alexa or any such tech device.
I live 1000 miles away; my brother lives in Europe. We are both POAs. I handle her bill paying. Her money is dwindling. I am The Big Bad Wolf because I’m the one stuck with handling all her crises. The consensus is she NEEDS to be placed in a supervised setting, but she absolutely refuses it and is verbally abusive and horrible to everyone around her. She talks about wanting to die constantly - and has for the last 50 years. Bluntly put, she has poisoned every single day of my life for three years now, my own health is compromised, and I am at my wits’ end. Our relationship has always been very difficult, but she just gets uglier and nastier day by day. If APS is not helping, what else is there to do?! Thank you all.

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Stop providing support. Stop propping her up.

Next time there is a phone call with hysterics, call 911. Tell them she sounds ill, possibly a UTI

When she gets to the hospital, fax them your POA, tell social work/discharge that lives alone WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT and it would be an unsafe discharge to send her home.
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Next time she falls have her taken to the hospital and then refuse to let them release her unless they can place her in a nursing home. BUT get started on getting Medicaid (I assume that she would probably qualify) started RIGHT AWAY. The hardest part will be recognizing that you can't help her if she won't let you. Stop enabling her by sending her food (which she doesn't want)It is sort of like an alcoholic. They need to hit bottom before they will get/accept help.
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RunningOnFumes May 15, 2025
The one time a neighbor called 911 when she fell and couldn't get up, the EMTs got her on her feet and she refused to go to the hospital. So that was that. Sigh.
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She has dementia,.
She is unable to make decision as to her safety, Her care,
She needs full time care. does not matter if she wants it or not it is what she needs.
To that end there are 2 options.
She puts up with the caregivers that are there to assure her safety and care for her the best they can given the circumstances.
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Placing her in Memory Care. She will be cared for, she will be safe.

I guess there is another option.
STOP all that you are doing.
Let her "manage" on her own. A crisis WILL happen, it is not a matter of IF but WHEN.
I find it incredible that APS does not consider a person with dementia living alone, refusing help as a danger to herself.
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I'm so sorry for these circumstances. What would seem like a solution to you? You can resign your PoA and then inform her county's social services/APS that she is now completely on her own since she rebuffs all attempts at help and you live 1000 miles away, your brother lives in Europe and she is running out of money for her care. Then you back completely away. Do not help her: do not send or do any other type of intervention. A solution will occur eventually. APS will get her a court-appointed legal guardian who will put her in a facility and it will be paid for through Medicaid and her SS income. The guardian will then make all decisions and do all management going forward. The more you intervene, the longer it takes for an appropriate solution to be put into place. Honestly, the only other solution is for you to take time off to be with her in person, call 911 or bring her to the ER and then tell them she's an "unsafe discharge", then ask to talk to a hospital social worker about having her transitioned directly into a facility. You refuse to take her back home. YOu have the test results in hand while talking to the discharge planner and social worker. But in the end you and your brother will still be on the hook to manage her care. It will be bad for a while and then, once she's in a facility, the storm will pass. Your brother should just resign his PoA since he can't do anything from overseas anyway. I wish you wisdom as you make a decision, and peace in your heart over the outcome.
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RunningOnFumes May 15, 2025
My brother has been incredibly supportive to me, and he makes a lot of phone calls, emails, etc. to providers. So he is very involved, and I am deeply grateful for his help. Given my own current health issues, we thought it best to have us both on the POA so he can step in if needed. I have to say, if I die before my mother does, I'll be REALLY p!ssed!
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Next time she goes to the ER start screaming “unsafe discharge” to everyone. Those are the magic words.
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Bulldog54321 May 15, 2025
Oh and you also need to tell her straight up that if she doesn’t cooperate with a car helper that she will go to a nursing home. She doesn’t get a choice on that one.
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Enough is enough. Get yourself removed as her POA. She needs to have a conservator appointed by the court who will make her decisions for her. Please do not guilt yourself about it because really it is not practical for you to be her POA from 1,000 miles away. Stop propping her up and putting out her fires. She needs to be placed in LTC or a live-in caregiver needs to be brought in. I don't however think that will be a possibility based on what you've said about how she treats her caregivers.

Your mother is no longer competent to live on her own or make her own decisions. Whether or not she will "allow" help or to be moved to a assisted living setting really is irrelevant because the decision cannot be left up to her. As for her being so nasty to her homecare help that they are struggling to find caregivers who will work for her. I have a homecare agency. When a client gets dropped from one agency's service, other homecare agencies will not take the case.

What I think is your best bet to do is talk to the local police department in your mother's town and explain what's going on. Then ask them to do regular wellness checks because she has dementia and you're not getting anywhere with APS. The cops will do it. They always do. This will expediate her getting placed.
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I contacted APS when my mom had dementia and lived alone. My brother was POA & lived miles away & I was across the street but he wouldn’t let me see her. She was also a fall risk & I told them if there was a fire in her home she couldn’t get out on her own. The next week my brother had a live in caregiver for her
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First, I am going to tell you to stop worrying. There is nothing you can do for a stubborn elder who refuses help. You say she has worsening dementia, hates the caregivers that take care of her; so, what's next?

I blame the patient's bill of rights and the right to refuse care or change caregiving agencies and caregivers. After switching so many caregivers, an agency eventually runs out of options.

Unfortunately, there are no easy answers for this fiasco since APS refuses to do anything when called, and hospitals refuse to keep her. Again, I'm resting on the fact of the patient refusing the right to medical care. In this case, placement in a long term facility setting. I'm quite sure in house services may have been suggested to her by medical personnel, but she is refusing care.

She has a false sense of independence being propped up by you and your brother. Your mother cannot take care of herself.

From what you've mentioned here, everyone's hands are tied including the social worker, APS and the hospital. If she doesn't want care, no one can force her.

I had a client like this many years ago who should have been placed in Memory Care. I called the agency, reported changes and no one passed this information on to her physician.

My little lady was ninety-four years old. She was tired of living. I was sitting at her dining room table when she looked up at the ceiling asking God in a moment of frustration; "Why won't you take me?"

Last I checked, she was still living in her home four years later after I left the case. She was ninety-eight years old and still living alone.
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What BC said. Encourage the neighbors to call 911 any time she asks for help.

Call her PD non-emergency line and explain the situation to them. Ask for a weekly wellness check. You need Emergency Services' documentation that she's a danger to herself. This is how you get it.
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Good suggestions below. Is her dr aware of the whole picture? if not write it out and send it to him/her. (S)he is in a position to state that your mother is not equipped to live alone. I agree with not propping her up anymore. The crisis WILL happen. In the meanwhile look around for suitable facilities. I was 5 hrs drive away - things can be managed from a distance with occasional trips.

An evaluation by a geriatric psychiatrist or a neurologist should help. It sounds like she needs meds.

When my mother (BPD and narcissism, vascular dementia) was extremely difficult to deal with she was placed by a geriatric psychiatrist into a geriatric psychiatric hospital until she agreed to take meds that made her more manageable. It took 9 months

Then she was placed by them in a suitable facility. They were very good at "leading" her to agree with this though it took time.

Wishing you all the best in this very difficult situation,
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