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Yes, this one time occurrence is reason enough to move into Memory Care where exterior doors are kept locked. If this were my dad and such a thing happened, I'd be freaking out and kissing the ground he's still alive! Family has no say in when a resident is asked to leave AL, especially due to being a flight risk of THIS magnitude.
Accept that dad needs to be in Memory Care now for his own safety.
Absolutely it's time for memory care! Next time dad may not remember how to call for assistance to get back in.
The facility should suggest that he needs the next level of care, if they haven't already. Get him into memory care ASAP. I'm so sorry this has happened.
My dh worked for a CCRC licensed facility for three years. It was an all owner-condo development. It didn’t have a memory care. All residents were free to come and go. Them forgetting their key cards coming back was so common that they had to employ someone whose job was to buzz them in.
If that was the extent of the assistance, I’m not sure I’d even classify it as true elopement.
Why did he leave? Did he have a reason that could be seen as valid, or was it for a reason that didn't make sense, or random wandering? Did he know it was the middle of the night, meaning he's confused about time of day, or was he simply determined to do something intentional then? Was this really a one-time occurrence, or have there been other signs of cognitive issues?
Not trying to cross-examine, but pointing out that this incident should trigger a realistic evaluation of what his current state of cognition is, and what he needs to be appropriately safe going forward
My father attempted exit-seeking a few times. Then it was diagnosed as a symptom of a UTI. He was treated for the UTI, and he stopped. They let him stay in AL.
I am sure the facility will discuss when the time to move him to MC is. Most likely it will be soon. There is no way they want the liability of a person leaving during the night. My gut reaction is if he has dementia, if he wandered out once that you are aware of he should be in a secure wing. I have to wonder how many other times did he wander off during the day but was able to get back in because the doors were open. Even if he just walked outside and wandered around the parking lot or walked around the building. At what point would he try to walk to the store. Or if he were included on an outing to the store or a local restaurant might he wander away and "forget" he is on a bus/van with a group? I would make the move to MC as soon as it is possible.
More context is needed. Why is he in a care facility? You need to consult with your dad’s healthcare team to rule out transient causes of confusion/dementia such as UTI, meds, metabolic disorders. Is there a history of dementia? You also need to discuss the episode with the care facility staff. If someone is telling you it’s time for him to go to memory care, you need to consider many factors in coordination with his entire team, and the family should be part of the equation. However, be advised that if the family goes against the advice of his doctor and the staff, then it is the family who needs to step in and take over his 24/7/365 care including keeping him from wandering, which probably means he would need to be living with family. Remember, too, that the care team has lots of experience assessing these situations. They’ve seen this situation many times before, and yes, sometimes just one case of wandering off can mean it’s time for MC. So sorry. We at this AC site know how heartbreaking these decisions can be.
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I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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Accept that dad needs to be in Memory Care now for his own safety.
The facility should suggest that he needs the next level of care, if they haven't already. Get him into memory care ASAP. I'm so sorry this has happened.
If that was the extent of the assistance, I’m not sure I’d even classify it as true elopement.
Not trying to cross-examine, but pointing out that this incident should trigger a realistic evaluation of what his current state of cognition is, and what he needs to be appropriately safe going forward
Most likely it will be soon. There is no way they want the liability of a person leaving during the night.
My gut reaction is if he has dementia, if he wandered out once that you are aware of he should be in a secure wing.
I have to wonder how many other times did he wander off during the day but was able to get back in because the doors were open. Even if he just walked outside and wandered around the parking lot or walked around the building. At what point would he try to walk to the store. Or if he were included on an outing to the store or a local restaurant might he wander away and "forget" he is on a bus/van with a group?
I would make the move to MC as soon as it is possible.