
I guess I'll go first with this one.
The thing that stands out the most for me about MIL with alzheimers.......
Everything is ALL ABOUT HER. I could cut my arm off and be bleeding on the floor right beside her and she would worry about who was going to bring her a cookie.
I am treated as" a nothing" in her world.
Then I feel guilty for thinking she's an old battleaxe.
Well that's my confession.
How about yours?
please stop by to vent, ask questions,etc. there are a lot of wise women and men here who have walked the walk and most give such awesome advice.
blessings to all who walk this caregivers path!!!!
Heck, I was able to forget labor and childbirth enough to have two more kids, so I'll hope it works the same way. ;-)
If he doesn't, tell him to get a life and p***off.
Are you POA for your elderly parents.? Sorry about all the questions but its one thing to be saddled looking after them but not your brother who clearly does nothing to help you.
The reason I'm angry about your plight is, because I'm angry with my siblings who do bugger all to help me with my father, and just give useless platitudes that do nothing to solve the situation. I don't know your circumstances but I feel terrible for you.
Please look after you. 🙏
there’s no solution to that — they never change. the attacks, abuse never stops; on the contrary, might get worse with time.
they feel good, when they attack verbally, blame/criticize/invent/lie about things to criticize. they know they’re wrong. they know very well they’re the problem, and not sweet, kind you. but they enjoy it: putting you down, trying to destroy you.
there are things that can’t be done without the cooperation of the abuser, where contact is necessary: hence, low contact/no contact isn’t possible.
they want to make you miserable.
they target you, but treat others well.
it’s evil.
it takes days/weeks to recover from verbal attacks. by then you’re damaged, and there’s been a new verbal attack.
don’t let them “win”. for them, this is about “winning”, trampling on you, seeing you sad/mad, etc.
they’re sadistic.
if you can somehow still smile, flourish under such
circumstances...
i wish us courage, strength, hope and good solutions to our various situations!
hug!!
NO NO NO
a previous suggestion was someone take a week, the other the next, meaning every other week, and talking moving in.
i know this isn’t much but I have read here over and over and over what happens , I am thankful for the knowledge here.
I really hope you are able to find ways to help you not to just cope but flourish in. If not, you may have to re-think your circumstances and come up with a new strategy! Remember that you count too. Sometimes we forget in the midst of the storm that we matter too!
Sending you hugs!!!
2nd: My mother has taken over my life. She thinks I’m her sister, best friend, and thinks all my friends are hers now. She wants to go every where I go. She monopolizes all dinner conversations with my husband. She acts like she has been the one married to him for 43 years.
Before all his health issues started for years I had been actively trying to dislocate myself from him and have better boundaries to protect my mental health. Now
I am his legal guardian. Yes, he has been evaluated multiple times. Yes, 5 physicians, 2 psychologists, and 2 judges all deemed him incapacitated. Would I rather my dad be able to live on his own and take care of himself heck yes! But those are not the cards that we were dealt. My relationship with my dad is definitely not perfect. It’s not even a good relationship. I’m not especially close to him for my own personal reasons but he’s my dad, and I wouldn’t abandon him. Especially when he needs someone to help him with these new challenges. It is what it is. I’m just trying to be the best advocate for him. He fights me constantly.
I just want to scream Tough S*#$ You’re stuck with me and it’s either me taking care of you or the state. Be thankful it’s me! I’m certain no matter where I placed him, no matter how nice it was he’d still complain about everything! Like the man didn’t give 2 poops about taking care of my mom’s and his house. Nor did he care about eating healthier or his health in general.
lastly I am a firm believer that it’s ok to dislocate yourself from unhealthy relationships, even if they’re your parents.
Thanks all! Spring is just around the corner! Gotta Keep Swimming!
It sounds to me like you have exactly the same relationship with your father that I have with my mother who I am caregiver to. The constant complaining and total misery all the time no matter what. It's only for us though. We're their whipping posts. They're nice as pie to everyone else. All the nasty, vicious, downright mean BS is saved for us. You know what else? I got treated like this all my life by my mother and you probably did too by your father. It's called being the family scapegoat. They take it out on someone and it's us. We're the family dumping ground. I find it to be an irony that most of the time we're the ones who end as their caregivers with all the responsibility of them put on us. Not on our siblings that they jumped through hoops for all their lives, but on the one they really couldn't care less about. Life can be a real pisser sometimes and don't people like us know it.
Many times in this group, I say that caregiving can only work if it's done on the caregiver's terms and not on the elderly parent's. You don't have to put up with as much as you think if you don't want to.
I asked several of my mother's numerous doctors and specialists (the list is like the Mayo Clinic up in here) if she has dementia. I had reason to ask. None of them think so. In fact, one of them took me aside and said he's seen in many seniors with total mental clarity, a kind of 'selective dementia' that's a piece of performance art for their family caregiver. An act like they don't understand and can't comprehend when it comes to something they simply don't want to do themselves. Like being put on hold during a telephone call. Or paying attention themselves to what the doctor is telling them during an appointment. Or getting themselves something to eat because they want to be waited on by you instead. I make my mother do for herself in the ways she's able to. She can't drive anymore and has some mobility issues so I help with things like this. I won't wait on hold with the insurance company for an hour to straighten out her coverage. She can still do that.
You're not alone in your situation. So many of us in this group are exactly where you are.
I feel guilty saying this but I'm glad I can get it out. This is my first post. Thank God I found you guys.
Example: yesterday Mum was praising my Cluster B sister for being such a good mother. I reminded her that the same sister stole money from her own kids (money we both gave them) and got a large sum from Mum. Mum responded by reminding me about the time my late father paid off my loan, and I reminded her that I paid him back, and she attacked me, asking "So are you saying you knew my husband better than I knew him?!" I reminded her she knew because I gave the repayments to her personally. I could see she remembered but was pretending not to. She changed subject to "the time you ran away with" (a guy, when I was young). I reminded her I did it to escape from the toxic atmosphere at home. She said we were all a happy family and totally minimised it. And the fight went on...in her head anyway. I just walked out of the room.
She made me Durable POA because she does not trust anyone else in the family with her finances but she resents me. When I say I am leaving after the pandemic lockdown, she cries and says she will not be able to manage without me, will be robbed by my sisters and bullied by them...
He often asks, "How am I going to get to...?" And I say, "I have to work, so please call a cab."
"But will they charge me?"
"Yes, Dad, but only a few dollars because it's only two blocks away."
"Oh, ok. I'll do that..."
Three days later, we do that again. He has NEVER called the cab. He calls me and asks me to call him a cab or an Uber, becuase he knows if I do it will be on my credit card. Meanwhile, he gets a lot of government help and has a lot of money in the bank...and under his mattress. Cheap bastard. He never sent my mom one cent in child support in 18 years either, but always tries to convince me she's the one who is lying. Ugh!
My FIL won’t ask for anything. He could be thirsty and not ask for water, and when I bring him some he says thank goodness, I was so thirsty! Or the TV shuts off and he sits in front of a blank screen instead of letting me know. Or sits in a room bundled up instead of asking to turn up the heat. Or once accidentally turned his space heater in his room overnight so it was 89 in there! But he doesn’t say anything. So, it requires I constantly anticipate his needs, read his body language, and even the tone of his voice. Sometimes he says no and it means no and sometimes it means yes, but I don’t want to bother you. Yesterday, I told him it was time for a haircut and he said that it was about time, his hair has been bothering him for a week (I am expected to mind-read, lol). Yet he will tell my BIL we keep the house too cold/hit, or is tired of eggs for breakfast or this or that bothers him. I know it’s not personal because he has done the same thing when he visits my BIL.
The other is DH who checks out when he comes home from work. Gets on his computer and doesn’t pay attention to or talk to his dad. Sometimes he can go days without even really looking at him. I am almost always the one who picks up on a problem or a need. He loves his dad but they just don’t communicate. I try and make conversation but when DH does, his dad really perks up. Sometimes his dad tries to make conversation and DH answers with a sentence and then turns on the TV. It makes me sad. I ask him to turn the TV down and carry on the conversation with his dad.
Yup I get that very much. My dad waits for me to notice or figure out that he needs/wants something. I’ve developed a seventh sense tuned just to him; my “Spidey sense” has saved his life more than 5 times at least. My bf has lived with us about a year and a half now and he still doesn’t always engage with my dad in a way that works. He’ll speak too softly for my dad to hear when greeting him or not see that he needs help with something because he’s looking at his phone. I told my bf he will never learn to see my dad if he doesn’t really look at him. He takes care of him only if I ask. I think it’s because his grandparents were very self sufficient until into their 90s and he doesn’t see my dad as needing much help as long as he’s up and walking about.
I only hear from them when they want me to do something or to complain about how I do it. They send group texts and emails complaining about me and lying about me and insulting me, then they don't understand why I am done with all of this. They get angry about things that I had nothing to do with, and take it out on me. I'm tired of being threatened and bullied.
Now, it's just nothing. I have to tap his arm and have him look at me when I try to talk to him, and it's just a blank stare or a comment that has nothing to do with what I said
Folks say not to take it seriously or to heart, but it's very hard not to when she screams and brings it up. Every. Day.
Feeling concerned about home safety and how my father would respond to an emergency situation, I asked "What would you do if I collapsed right now in the middle of the room?"
"Hmm", my father replied, apparently giving the matter serious contemplation,
"I would have to find somewhere else to live".
Yep, I guess that sums up pretty well where his priorities sit!
Although devastating to hear, I couldn't help but have a little chuckle to myself afterwards. Don't we all perceive things differently, after all?
I get that very much! When I decided to help out with my dad over 10 years ago, it was understood that my dad didn’t want assisted living but wanted to live comfortably at home until his death. He knew that his kidneys were going to fail him at some point but since he had dialysis four yrs prior in 2007 he said he never wanted to be on it again. I thought this would mean that when they failed again, he’d decline quickly and pass and I’d get to living my life again. But 2018 we were told his kidneys were decline and his dr strongly suggested we try a different form of dialysis: Peritoneal dialysis was supposed to be less stress on him and done while he slept at night. We watched the videos, did research online and I asked him if he would be ok trying this out and if he felt he would want to continue living this way. He said he wasn’t ready to die yet and he’d be willing to try it. By the end of that year, double pneumonia took him hard and I was forced into a position of starting him on hemodialysis months before his kidneys would have failed naturally and he was oxygen deprived on multiple occasions for that hospital stay and had to be in isolation and developed strong confusion and distrust of most things medical and even somewhat with me. Longer story shortened...I never anticipated at almost 34, when I agreed to care for him after my mom died that he would live to do dialysis again and I am at almost 44. He thought last year he could get off dialysis and still live (he had been repeatedly told by drs and myself that dialysis would be for the rest of his life, his kidney function wasn’t going to miraculously come back and he was too old & frail to do a transplant); imagine if I was an unscrupulous person, I could have told him ok let’s try you off dialysis for a few weeks. But I sat crushed & explained once again he could not live long without dialysis. We had been told a month at most once off dialysis. Trouble is, he isn’t “living” his life just existing. Watches tv and ignores that his legs are wasting away and that he will lose mobility(he’s an amputee missing his lower right leg already) & be bedridden. PT/OT are harder because he has worsening COPD. But yes, he could live for years yet. I reached my near breaking point back in January and started looking into assisted living. I explained to him why and he seemed to understand but he still relies heavily on me to get him going in any activity. But I’m so done waiting for my life to restart. My brain is fried from doing his thinking plus my own and I have no wish to wait until he’s gone to refresh. Like some of responders here that are in their 60s,70s...I’d take myself out of this life (if that was the only option left!) vs keeping on caring for him another two decades. I have so much to give to the world ( I used to be a massage therapist and want to work in the medical field to better help people worldwide) and I’m tired of wasting it on one person who barely acknowledges that I’m his daughter, uses any excuse not to do something to help himself, psychosomatically gets sick when new changes are presented and waits until I’m screaming and/or crying before realizing I’m not ok. Plus his doctors fail to recognize the burden it is on me being his sole caregiver. They just look to me to keep him alive so they can get paid; they are decent drs but clueless of how hard doing caregiving on my own really is.
Now I’m supposed to have respite care in a couple weeks...if I can keep him healthy enough to get and stay there for 2 weeks. Only the cosmos knows if I’ll get what I need..but I’ve stopped thinking my own wishes to live life are selfish. It’s self preservation. I miss my dad when he’s passed, but I will work to savor and live my life to its fullest possibilities after him.
I know that my mom is ready to die and be with my father in heaven.
After watching many others suffer, I hope and pray that I have a quick and easy death like my grandmother had.
It is torturous for a disease to linger for years and years.