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I wish I could visit her just once and it not just be a bitch fest from her. And now, she's adding racially disparaging comments to the mix. Which she knows is wrong because she lowers her voice while she says the specifically racial comments, then raises it back once those couple of words are spoken. This is how I know this is not just the dementia talking. Where I do think the dementia comes into play with these racist comments is that she forgets that I am the natural mother of 3 men of color. Which she thinks I adopted. Staff and residents have made complaints about her rude and nasty attitude towards them. I guess my question today is do I just ignore her comments about race and pretend she didn't say them, like I do with her fake whimpering and heavy breathing that she doesn't do with other people? Or do I do as I did, and tell her I will not tolerate such language and leave?

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You are so in charge of how you feel. When she starts talking badly announce nicely, (while feeling like a benign strong power and only adult in the house), that you are leaving because you will not permit anyone to speak badly about anyone in my family. Add...I'm leaving now and I'll come back when you feel better. This may work if she's trainable.
Or, only when she starts talking ugly, put on a noise cancelling head phone, not just ear plugs but the ones that look like muffins on your ears so that she can visually see that you are not listening, and do the things that need doing then split. Before you leave you say I love you mom, it's been another great visit. Before I go is there anything you need? See you soon. If see starts up again put on the head phones with a smile and a good-bye.

If she was not saying ugly racial things before then cut her some slack and know that this is the crazy way of a dying brain. Not exactly like those folks suffering Tourette syndrome, who are smart but unable to control there outbursts, your mom's brain is broken.
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mommabeans Jun 19, 2025
My mother lives in Assisted Living.
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I would lower my voice and say, "Remember, whites a color too!"
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mommabeans May 15, 2025
And she would pretend she didn't know what I was talking about.
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In your shoes I wouldn’t listen to a minute of it, dementia or not. I’d let her know she’s wrong for her attitude and leave her presence every time it happens. Protecting your own emotional health is always wise
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The one way to find out if M can control her racist statements is to react in a way she won’t like – walk out or talk back. No fuss, that's a wanted reaction. If it cuts back and stays cut back, she can control it.
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https://story.californiasunday.com/covid-life-care-center-kirkland-washington/

The story of Twilla is the story of dementia. Twilla would blurt out racist things despite what those around her felt about it. Unknown how much of a factor this was with her daughter, but the daughter lessened visits. Whereas the daughter of the roommate gets on staff’s case about obvious missed showers.

Especially if you are poa, it is your obligation to verify that mom is clean, dressed and fed. You need not have any interaction beyond this if you wish not to.
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mommabeans May 15, 2025
Mom does not have POA. At all. She never bothered.
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My narcissist mother’s behavior was the worst on Mother’s Day every year . She felt Mother’s Day gave her the right to be her worst that day every year . In her mind that day was for her only . She acted like she was the only mother in the world ever . She waited all day like a Queen for each of her 5 kids to visit , so she could berate us. This was going on long before she was even in AL or had dementia .

This will not stop until your mother either loses the ability to speak or she passes.
Leave when she does this . You don’t have to stick around to listen .
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mommabeans May 15, 2025
She didn't even know it was mother's day.
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You're asking how to stop the pain when you put your hand on a hot stove burner. You can't. Your mother feels as she does and every time she insults you or your family, you're going to feel the pain of her words. Limit your contact with her, that's my advice. And treat yourself to something nice and relaxing afterward. Something to look forward to to remind yourself you've done nothing wrong and this is HER issue.

My parents kicked me out of the house w/o money as a young woman for falling in love with a POC. I rented a room in someone's house and held down 2 jobs to pay the $200 monthly rent. This was the 70s, when there was little tolerance for interracial couples. We were spit at, cursed and shunned. In our mother's minds, it's still the 70s and we are embarrassments to the family.

I never had a good relationship with my mother (especially) after that, until the day she died at 95. Being ugly and totally unsupportive of one's children due to racial beliefs is unacceptable imo. And they reap what they sow. Little contact with their daughters who they cannot muster up an ounce of respect for, no matter what.

My mother took her ugliness with her to the grave. Which is when I no longer had to listen to ANY MORE of her nonsense. That's when it stops hurting.
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golden23 May 14, 2025
I am with you. lea. It stopped hurting when mother passed and no more interactions.
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I say shut her down every time and leave. And if it doesn't stop after you do this consistently for a few weeks, dial back your visits to the bare minimum. If she asks why you don't come by more often, say that if she can't stop saying such ugly things she will just see less of you. And follow through. And if she can't stop herself, for real, stick to your guns for your own sanity.
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The boss I had 15 years ago (white) had a daughter who married a black guy with whom she had five children. I was invited to the baby shower of one and the racial chasm between her and the in-laws was huge. It wasn’t even anyone’s fault. It is what it is.
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BurntCaregiver May 15, 2025
@PeggySue

That's really sad. The families shoud have respected the couple for the fact that they actually got married and had a family. That it wasn't a baby-daddy/baby-mama set up. How sad because they will miss out on the grandchildren.
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Mammabeans, you can practice the Gray Rock Method, Google it , it helps, on both sides.

You can also pretend you are working, and mom is a job, and you are working for , just any elder that needs help. It does help. You could were the same sort of clothes, that reminds you that , this is a job, to keep your emotions out of it.

You can smile , go into your car and scream. Let it all out!!!

The important thing is to try to let it go , when you leave! Know that you are worthy to be happy! You deserve happiness, no matter how miserable your mom is. This is not your fault. My mom seems to be declining lately, it's not easy to not bring it home. I'm feeling a little down about it tonight. Nothing about this is easy. We are going through some crappy stuff, best thing to do is try your hardest to not worry when you are home. That will eat us alive! 💞💞
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mommabeans May 15, 2025
I don't tolerate it from my patients either. There's nothing I CAN do will visiting my mother that would even remotely resemble my work with patients like her. With my patients, I tell them that's not okay, finish the job and leave. I'm not there to make sure they feel loved and supported. I'm there for 5-10 mins tops to obtain a sample, and be out. My patients who remind me of her are starting to irritate me as well and I have to actively keep my mouth closed unless I'm giving an instruction or asking a job related question now.
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I just want to clarify, I'm not asking how do I get her to stop. I'm asking what should I do for ME when she does it, so it doesn't upset me so much.
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KNance72 May 13, 2025
it is Really best to ignore the comment and Behaviors . be the Bigger person hold your breath and Ignore what she is saying . You Might want to create a Boundary and Not see her at all if it tortures you so Much . I Know My Mom would give me hateful Looks and then Look at people and roll her eyes yet I was the One who ended up changing her diapers and feeding her and catering to her . Thank God the nurse said after she was admitted again " You have to Place her , you can Not do this 24/ 7 . here is the name of a attorney who can help you . " In the end she Thanked me . I didnt Have any Bitterness towards her . She was a real B..tch at times to me growing up and could be very Mean . Learn not to hear her comments . Pretend your Not hearing her or wear ear Plugs . Or dont see her again . You have choices .
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Why continue the visit if she is making comments like that? Tell her 1 time to stop saying things like that. If she continues get up and leave. No good bye, just leave.
if it is on the phone do the same things with the warning if she continues hang up, no good bye just hang up.

I am sure the staff has listened to talk like that and I hope it is ignored. Maybe when you do visit make an extra effort to smooth any "ruffled feathers" or hurt feelings. Greet everyone, bring an occasional treat.

"Holidays" are such minefields. We all see the Hallmark movies and are fed such unrealistic views of family life that we begin to think it is possible to have that and / or somehow we are at fault or "less than" if we don't have that in our lives.


Your mom's views are hers, not yours.

I will say that part of dementia is the dropping of social filters that we put up so that we can live peacefully in society. (Some have better filters than others)
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mommabeans May 13, 2025
I don't even give her one time. I just leave. Of all her little games she plays, that's the one I have the least tolerance for.
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Mammabeans honestly there is no right or wrong way to handle this. It's more of a personal way your way! My mom , said something yesterday, that she knows she isn't suppose to say to me anymore, and had a little smirk, mother's Day or not I don't allow this anymore. She teases me on being learning disabled. I didn't say near as much to her as I should have, I let it go a bit , but did say , that it's her genes that made me this way, so it's not my fault for being disabled. .

Anyways, personally, demented or not , I think many are smarter than they let on. If you feel you need to say something, say it, see how it goes , how she reacts, but if you feel she truly can't help herself then let it go. I know for a fact my mom can, help herself. So I think you need to do whatever is best for you in your circumstances. I'd never think poorly of anyone stick up after someone says something racist.
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My mother who did not have dementia did the same thing although she didn't lower her voice, it was a terrible experience.

Her generation had no filter, or at least that is what I have been exposed to.

Me, I stopped taking her out she was not going to change, I had to change my way of dealing with her.
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I'm a POC myself and have worked around people with these types of racial comments. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this is cultural passed down from generation to generation. I've seen people who couldn't remember their own families but could spew every racial name in the confederate vocabulary. LOL

I think the black rappers had the right idea by making a mockery of this language using it as ebonics in the rap songs.

At my age and coming up during the Civil Rights Movement, old habits of this sort die hard.

I'm trying to be politically correct here. LOL

All jokes aside, this is dementia. Most of us ignore the comments.
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My Aunt with advanced dementia blurted out her racial comments as loud as any other part of her conversation. She never uttered that stuff to me when I was growing up. I agree that the fact your Mother lowers her voice probably means she knows at the time that she's saying something that will create consequences. That being said, since she has progressing dementia I don't think you'll be teaching her anything she will retain or ever agree with. You need to create a boundary for that behavior and defend it consistently. You're the only one who can change when the other person has dementia. I'm so sorry for the pain and sorrow this is causing you and your family. May you receive peace in your heart as you interact with her.
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mommabeans May 13, 2025
Not trying to teach her anything. Just trying to figure out if I just ignore it, or call her out. Which would be better for my mental health.
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My mother does the breathing and whimpering also. That performance usually only for me since I was a child. No one can hyperventilate and be unable to breathe for more than forty years and still be alive. It's a performance. Until I just started ignoring it. You're doing the right thing there. If she doesn't put that particular show on for others, then that's what it is. A show. Blow that nonsense off.

As for the racial slurs and nasty language. It may be possible that your mother enjoys seeing you angry. If she's lowering her voice to make nasty racial comments to you, she's aware of what she is saying. So here's how you handle it.

If she says very quietly to you that she can't stand that (racial slur) you ask her plainly and more importantly LOUDLY to speak up. Tell to not lower her voice. That if she's not ashamed to call people a (racial slur) she shouldn't be ashamed if everyone hears her say it.

I was a caregiver for 25 years to more vicious, nasty, verbally abusive, racist elders than I can remember. I will tell you that in these situations causing a little bit of embarrassment for the person works like a slap in the face.

Years back I was a supervisor at a very nice AL facility. We had one resident who every time I would walk past her she would say, 'There goes that fat b*tch'. I listened to this several times a day for some time and just ignored her. Until one day I didn't. That day when she said it again, I stopped dead in my tracks, rounded on her, got right in her face and said 'What did you call me?' My intent was to stand there with her backed against the wall and make her repeat it. She did not. She got all flustered and started stuttering a bit that she didn't say anything. I told her that I better not ever hear that again from her and I never did. She never said it again and I worked there for about another two years until the place closed.

You call your mother out when she lowers her voice and says racial slurs to you. Don't get angry. Get loud and clear. Embarrass her a little.
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mommabeans May 13, 2025
I think this is probably where it's at, although I do believe she does not remember that my children are mixed-race. Several months ago she said my one son was adopted, and I could swear she said that just to piss me off. My mom has always been manipulative and would play the victim every time she got called out. So this is just more of that. When I got up and said I was leaving because I'm not tolerating that, she started, "I ask God every night to let me die," stuff and I just said, "Okay, Mom. " That's always been her way. Emotional blackmail type stuff. Just worse now. And it's really hard to even want to visit her when she's gotten so much worse. She can't say anything positive, until you call her out and then, after all her, "I want to die" stuff, it's "Oh, I love you so much, honey. I'm so proud of you." Sap and I can't stand it.
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Yes, this IS dementia talking, and you really are going to have to accept that she no longer has the inhibitions in place to protect you and the rest of the world from who she is. We ALL have unpleasant things that come through our minds. We ALL have personal grudges and opinions and things that, if said out loud, would be hateful and cruel. 3 years olds and dementia patients SAY them out loud: "Oh, LOOK mom, that lady is SO fat!!!!!!!!"

You are being hurt by your own expectations, and to me, that's what holidays are all about, whether Christmas or Mom's day. They are ways to show the world that we don't measure up, our KIDS don't measure up, our parents don't measure up, our world is imperfect.

Do as you please, because WHATEVER you do, it will make little difference.
You can say any of these things:
1. "Mom, that is very racist and unpleasant, and that you said it our loud shows that you are no longer well enough to know better"
2. "Geez, Mom, I can't take you ANYWHERE"
3. "Mom, you once knew better than to say every unpleasant thing you think; too bad you don't anymore."
4. "Do you really think so Mom?"
What does it matter WHAT you say to her; it's unlikely she will have a clue what you said tomorrow.

As to her racism I will repeat what an old Irish nurse said to me when I was crying in the hall after seeing someone say something cruel to a fellow nurse who was African American: "Things change one coffin at a time". It is true. Whether or racism, homophobia, or anything else, things change one coffin at a time, and Mom's (like mine) will be popping up any day now.
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BurntCaregiver May 12, 2025
@Alva

The fact that the mother lowers her voice so no one else will hear shows that she still possesses enough self-awareness to know it's wrong. That's when a little embarassment and calling her out on it comes in.
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The staff needs to get a thicker skin if they are going to work with Dementia patients. Its not uncommon for someone with a Dementia to use racist comments. I am sure Mom is not the only resident who has done this. The other residents, your just going to have to say "its the Dementia talking". If staff is complaining to you ask them what do they think you can do about it. Just tell her that what she says is not nice and she hurts others by saying it. Will that work? Probably not. You can leave when she starts and tell her why. Will she do it again, probably. Its the desease. Nothing anyone can do.
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MargaretMcKen May 15, 2025
This is not directed at the staff or the other residents, it's direct quite specifically against her daughter. Chances are that daughter is also the 'other' she wants to hurt.
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She is most likely to keep saying these things no matter what you do.

It's socially and morally unacceptable for her to speak in this way, but someone with dementia has lost her filters. She won't understand or care if you chide her, chastise her or punish her by walking out. That won't teach her anything because her brain is broken and she can't learn. She can't be trained because after you tell her off and leave, she won't remember it next week and will continue her racist talk until she gets on another loop (that could be even worse).

If you CAN accept all of the above truths about dementia and the way it's affecting your mom, keep going to see her. You don't have to apologize for her. You didn't do anything wrong - she did. She's sick. She's going to get worse. I'm pretty sure the staff at the facility has seen this before.

If you CAN'T accept her symptoms, still take her remarks personally and decide you can't stand it anymore, then stop going. I fully understand why you might wish to avoid her.

You decide.
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BurntCaregiver May 12, 2025
@Fawnby

Yet the mother with dementia is still self-aware enough to lower her voice when she's saying the racial slurs to her daughter. So she knows it's wrong. Maybe embarassing her some in front of others will put the brakes on it a bit.
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