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Since May of 2023, my father has been assisted livings due to not taking care of his diabetes. He lived in FL and state said he can’t go home. The state wanted him to be a skilled nursing facility, but he wasn’t ready for it. Assisted livings could care less about what they eat. My father’s sugar has been worse the last 2 years because he eats what he wants. His vision is 80% so he can’t cook etc. Can’t give himself insulin. I can’t let him live with me because he’s so combative, hateful and needs 80 degrees inside my home and can’t stand any bit of noise. He ran out of money in Feb of 2025, and I was using my own money to help pay. I couldn’t do it any longer so 2 mos. ago he was accepted into VA 6 mins from me. He’s rude and keeps saying I hate it here. My room is half the size of what I had at private pay ASL. His medical care is much better. I’m so frustrated because he didn’t plan for old age and spent his money horribly. I have a family of my own with 8 grands in MD. I moved him from FL to MD April 2024, and he doesn’t appreciate being 6 mins from me. I take him to lunch, buy him groceries with my own money to fill his small fridge in his room. In my heart I want to tell him off so badly. But I know it won’t help things. He wasn’t in my life very much for 20 yrs. I’m his POA. I know he’s in the best place for his social security, but he needs an attitude change big time. Just venting.

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You won't be changing your father's attitude.
That's a waste of time. Feel free to come and vent, but understand that you are not now and never were responsible for the happiness of your parent. I doubt your father was EVER terribly happy. And truly, life isn't about happiness. It's about survival.

When Dad becomes too much a chorus of despair, a litany of woes, excuse yourself and tell him you'll be back when he's having--hopefully--a better day. Stop arguing room size with him. Put on radio and listen to a podcast or ball game. Best out to you.
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Your father is where he needs to be now and I'm glad that the VA is taking better care of his health issues.
But like Alva said below, your fathers attitude will never change and he probably will never be happy. But that is on him not you. You are NOT your fathers keeper nor are you responsible for his happiness.
As his POA you have made sure that he is safe and being looked after 24/7, and that is all that is required of you.
So from here on out I would limit my visits to just once a month, and would stop taking him to lunch unless you want to do that at your monthly visit, and if and when you decide to talk to him on the phone the minute he starts to be negative, you stop the conversation and tell him that you will talk to him another time when he's not so negative, and hang up.
And quit hanging around anyone that is negative and get out there and enjoy your 8 grandchildren as they will bring you great joy that your life needs to thrive.
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Sounds like my 92 year old veteran grandpa only he still makes enough to pay for private facility outside the VA. We are in Florida and our VA said they won’t help until he needs SNF. At this point we have gone from ALF to MC within 6 months and he has done nothing but complain about both. He hates the people the food his room etc. Then I remind him these are the SAME complaints he had at home with us. He is safe where he is from himself and from harming/causing stress on us. I feel loads of guilt/stress when I do visit which is not often for my own sanity. Just know that you aren’t alone in this journey.
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MiaMoor Aug 10, 2025
Laura, try your best to let go of the guilt. It's not appropriate and isn't serving anyone.

You owe it to yourself and your loved ones to keep yourself healthy, so continue to limit the visits, but don't let the situation stress you. It's outside of you, not part of you, so don't take on your grandad's negativity.
Take care.
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I would tell him that "I hate it for you too! But honestly dad, this is what you planned for, so I am grateful that you have a roof over your head and you are getting care."

Then change the subject to something positive and give him a chance to respond positively and if he just wants to be ugly, tell him you'll see him later and walk out without looking back. Do this every single time and lengthen the time between visits and calls, give him the consequences for his behavior, never know he might find he misses you and will behave civilized, if not, his needs are being met, you don't need to visit.
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My mom has a new delusion that the facility is going to let her build a new room that is larger, private and has a kitchen. It keeps her occupied. She even started doing sketches. Sometimes they finally switch from complaining to delusion. Stop spending money on your dad and limit your visits. Let the facility take care of him as that is what they are being paid for and are trained to do.
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Your Dad is lucky he has you. Let him complain. Tell him, "Sorry Dad but you need 24/7 care that I can not provide. This is what you can afford. I cannot make you happy, you have to that yourself." Then when you visit you ignore his complaints. You say "I will come back when you stop complaining".

Why do you provide him lunch? He should be getting 3 meals a day.
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Dad isn’t changing except to likely worsen. Happy is over for him, nothing you do will fix that. You’ve done a great job making sure he’s safe and cared for, I’m sorry he can’t be grateful for your efforts. The change has to come from you. Don’t listen to a minute of the griping, leave or get off the phone when it starts “we’ll talk when you’re feeling better, bye” Keep the conversation positive and when it can’t be, stop it entirely. Continue to be his advocate, but limit your exposure to the negativity, no one deserves a steady stream of that. I wish you peace
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Rudy,

What would be so wrong with telling him off? I don't mean get down and dirty with name calling and insults. Tell him off by letting him know loud and clear that you do enough for him. He chose to squander his money on wine, women, and song (as my grandmother would say) instead of planning for his old age. So the VA is the best he's going to get, and he's lucky to even be getting that because there are worse places and old people with no money who need care are in them.

You should tell him that you will not listen to him complain anymore and that if he can't control his complaining you will stop talking to him and visiting.
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This sounds so similar to the situation that I had with my own father. He was living in Florida, had run out of money, just barely making it on Social Security. He called me only when he wanted money, wouldn’t move anywhere cheaper. He wanted to maintain a lifestyle he couldn’t afford and expected me to subsidize him. I moved him from Florida when I started getting calls from a VA social worker. He thought he was going to live with us which was out of the question (long story). I was his POA, so I took over his finances, and found him an apartment in a low income senior building. He complained non-stop. I then got him on Medicaid long term care, and eventually got him into an excellent nursing facility run by Little Sisters of the Poor. He never was happy, and never showed any appreciation for my efforts. As others have said, you can’t make them happy and you can’t kill yourself trying. You can only do your best to make sure they are safe and cared for.
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It sounds like Dad is in a good place. No sense trying to reason that although the room is too small for his tastes, its the best you can do. Frankly it's great that he is in the VA and has a safe and caring place to live,

Do what you need to do for yourself. Tell him if he starts whining or getting angry you will leave immediately. Then do so. Limit your visits to what is comfortable for you.
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I’m surprised they took him to live long term. It was my understanding that in order for that to be the case, the veteran had to have a military disability that was caused while enlisted. They don’t cover dementia/alzheimers/old age, otherwise every elder veteran would wind up in the VA. The accommodations aren’t luxury, but he’s safe. Hopefully they’ll keep him.
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You can point out to your dad that this is as big a room as he can afford. He probably did have a bigger room at the AL, but he did not have adequate care or supervision. You are not responsible for making up for his lack of resources. Tell him to pretend he is camping and be glad he at least has electricity and plumbing. Many people in the world do not have even those things.
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Do nothing, he is where he needs to be. If he starts, leave, if on the phone, hang up.

He will not stop it is up to you to change the dialogue.
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Shayna12 Aug 10, 2025
excellent advice.
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Rudy0618: Never use your financials for your father's care. It looks like he may now require a higher level of care.
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You cannot change your father. Stop paying for his expenses so you have money for your own future care. He can go on Medicaid to pay for his care.
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My advice would be to not even try to reason with him and definitely don't argue. Your words would be wasted. So let his words slide off you, like water off a duck's back.

Don't visit more than every other week and don't spend your money on him. Again, both time and money would be wasted.

There's nothing wrong with where your dad is - he's lucky to have it - and you. So ignore his whining and limit your contact so that he doesn't affect your mood and make you ill.
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Venting- good. Spending money on his needs-Bad. They should provide for his needs. Tell him to write down all his complaints and give them to the social worker.
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"You can have anything you can pay for."

My dad would often say that to me. I realized in my teens that he was right. The message was clear: Nobody owes me things. I must work to get them. I must save to be safe when I'm an elder. I got a job as soon as I was old enough to work.

Every time your dad complains or brings up money or where he lives or it's too small, you say, "Dad, you can have anything you can pay for." No variation on the theme, and you say it often. He's very fortunate that the US government (we, the taxpayers) via the VA has taken responsibility for him. Stop paying for things for him. And don't take any more noise from him. You can always resign POA, so keep that in mind, too. Good luck!
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Vent away. It is not easy dealing with an unhappy LO. Deep breaths and diversions are you go to when you father is ranting. Have empathy and tell him you understand his feeling but it is what it is. Leave when things become too difficult and you feel that you will explode.

A regular poster wrote: It is either them or you and you MUST choose you for your own wellbeing. These words are so true. Take care of yourself and if you need to limit the visits or shorten them to save your sanity.

Being a POA doesn't mean you sacrifice all for there comfort and happiness. That is a major misconception for others that are not in your shoes.
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What can you do! You've already done all you can...stop feeling guilty, the way he wants you to feel. Maybe you need to tell him off and put him in his place...stop taking the abuse as you are not a punching bag. The years of him being the authority figure are over. You are in that position now in taking care of him. Stand up for yourself and keep doing what you are doing. He'll adjust eventually.
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Surprisingly, what shut my mom's complaints up was when instead of being defensive, I switched to empathizing. When the started in, I would simply agree.

"Yeah Mom, it must be hell getting old and shuffled around. I'm not looking forward to it either. Life can sure be tough. Sure ain't easy getting old!"

Then she would just switch to going over how hard it is. Old folks converse like this among themselves often. Sometimes they just want sympathy and understanding.... You could give it a shot and see what happens?
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Probably not going to like this but...
Listen to him vent.
Listen to him complain.
Tell him that if you find a place that is better you will let him know. Tell him if he hears of a better place to let you know. But for now this is the best he has.

Now a side note here....I do not know if this would help. I do not know if there are any in your area but....
The VA does have what they call Medical Foster Homes.
The have families, homes that they have inspected, trained, approved and these people/families will take in Veterans that need medical care but not Skilled Nursing. The Veteran pays the Veteran Foster Home. I do not know the average cost. But this might be something that you could look into if it would be better than where he currently is.
Just a thought....
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KNance72 Sep 12, 2025
Great Idea and advice
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Nothing. Carry on. Take care of YOURSELF first. (legally, of course).
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There is nothing you can do to change his attitude.
Of course he's unhappy. He's aging, his health is failing, he can barely see, and he has very little control over his life situation. He had to make a big change and a big move that he didn't like. I'm sure he complains about every thing.
A skilled nursing facility will provide more care for his diabetes, and will provide meals, but the setting will not be to his liking. An even smaller room, and no independence. You are doing the right thing. I don't think anything will make him happy at this point. It is unfortunate for him. But you don't have to be his verbal punching bag. You can learn to protect your emotional well-being.

Your anger and frustration with him is valid. He didn't plan for his old age and now you are doing the best you can to provide for his needs. I think it's ok to tell him you are frustrated and angry. You don't have to raise your voice or be demeaning. Rehearse what you want to say and tell him how you feel about this. Then, calmly leave before it becomes a heated argument.
You are very kind taking him to lunch and buying him groceries. You are entitled to back off a little. You are upset that he doesn't appreciate that you moved him from FL to be 6 mins from you. Stop looking for his approval or appreciation for anything that you do - for your own mental health. Accept that he is unhappy and will likely complain every time you see him. You can continue to see him and ignore his complaints, there is nothing you can do to change it, or you can back off and spend less time with him.
Tell him he's welcome to find better housing. You won't be paying for it.
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